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Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2013  
User currently offlinehuntsman80 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11813 times:

Following UK_Dispatcher's wonderful threads in 2011 and 2012, I thought it might be an idea to have a quick catch up on what's going on in the classic and rare aircraft which we may be able fly in 2013.


Il-18: The only remaining passenger services appear to be the domestic Air Koryo journeys. The Daallo Horn of Africa flights have ceased with 737s now operating. The Ops Manager at Daallo did however say these aircraft are still stationed in JIB and can be chartered on request but mentioned something about the aircraft type being banned from certain locales but I couldn't decipher exactly where.

Il-62: Again the only remaining passenger services appear to be domestic Air Koryo journeys. The intl PEK legs ceased in January after the Chinese aviation authorities put a noise ban on the older Russian aircraft operating within Chinese airspace. There was some rumours about the Deta Air frame moving over to Air Trust although it was unclear whether this combi varient had been converted to full freighter or not. It appears that it was partially converted with the 66 seat/33T cargo moving to 24 seat/40T cargo configuration and is currently for sale (http://www.aircraft24.com/en/jet/ilyushin/il-62m--xi113194.htm)

Tu-134: UTair Express still operating quite a number of this type. Also some moved over to Iran as well?

Tu-154: ??

An-24: Again UTair Express still operating a number. I am sure there are a lots of small CIS operators still flying these and of course the Air Koryo example as well.

B707: According to Sam Chui these ceased in mid-April with a simultaneous cessation of all Saha Air services. There are again rumours of Saha Air resuming operations but it is unclear if the 707s will get a repreive.

747SP: Iran Air are still operating these on the PEK and KUL long hauls after their 747-300s from Qantas were embargoed. There also seem to be some scheduled journeys to BOM but unsure if these are operating. What happened to the Syrian frames?

DC10: Biman still?


I hope this thread generates some good ideas, tips and information as similar threads have in the past. Looking forward to your input.

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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11769 times:

Yes, awesome, thank you so much for starting a new thread! It's been a while.
Let me add:

An-24: An easy way to fly on an An-24 is the HAV-GER domestic flight in Cuba (Nueva Gerona, Isla de la Juventud). Very cheap too, $41 if I remember correctly. This flight will soon be operated by their new An 158 equipment, but right now, you can still catch it while you can. An excellent experience I highly enjoyed last year.

Dash 7: Only one place left in the world to fly on a scheduled passenger Dash 7, but it's extremely easy, cheap, no weird visas or dangerous countries, and 0% chance of equipment change: Berjaya Air Singapore to Kuala Lumpur, via TOD (Pulau Tioman). Spend a day or two on this beautiful island or just do the SIN - SZB trip directly with a brief stopover. You'll have to book 2 separate tickets though, and notify the company at check-in, as they don't market the through flight. Make yourself noticed by the pilots as an airline enthusiast, and you'll probably fly in the jump seat.

MD-11: Good luck explaining this to a time traveler from 10 years ago, but the MD-11 definitely belongs in this thread. Only a handful flying for KLM, and every once in a while one goes to the desert, so your last chance has come. YUL seems to be a safe bet. I think it's safe to say KLM will do some sort of enthusiasts' charter in the very end, but if you want to experience them in revenue long haul airline service, you'll have to hurry. I flew AMS-YUL last week and it was one of my most enjoyable flights in many years. Do it now!

Soren   



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User currently offlineSkyeurope From Germany, joined May 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11759 times:

B737-200: Europe's last -200 is back! YU-ANP of Aviogenex was ferried from Perpignan to Belgrade after storage (or maintenance?) on May 10. Appearently this aircraft is now operating for JAT again, but sadly the first "scheduled" flights of ANP were changed to 733s on very short notice.
As well, there seem to be 732s operating with certain carriers in Africa, Venezuela and TAM Bolivia also operates a few.


User currently onlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 903 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11723 times:

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 2):

Peruvian (P9) in Peru still operate some 732s from LIM to at least CUZ along with some other destinations.

Regards,
Sveinn  



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User currently offlineHywel From Malaysia, joined Apr 2008, 814 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11701 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
Only one place left in the world to fly on a scheduled passenger Dash 7

What about Air Greenland?  

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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3340 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11673 times:
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Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):

I believe Avior also still flies 732s to MIA



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3014 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11670 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
MD-11: Good luck explaining this to a time traveler from 10 years ago, but the MD-11 definitely belongs in this thread. Only a handful flying for KLM, and every once in a while one goes to the desert, so your last chance has come. YUL seems to be a safe bet. I think it's safe to say KLM will do some sort of enthusiasts' charter in the very end, but if you want to experience them in revenue long haul airline service, you'll have to hurry. I flew AMS-YUL last week and it was one of my most enjoyable flights in many years. Do it now!

Indeed--Thankfully I'm booked for this summer on the second daily seasonal AMS-LAX turn.

Quoting huntsman80 (Thread starter):
747SP: Iran Air are still operating these on the PEK and KUL long hauls after their 747-300s from Qantas were embargoed. There also seem to

Need to get on this... Let's hope they are around for a few more years.



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5943 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11661 times:

Fairchild Swearingen Metroliner

From what I can gather, there are 5 airlines still flying the venerable Metroliner on regularly scheduled, bookable flights:

Sharp Airlines, Australia: http://sharpairlines.com.au//
Brindabella Airlines, Australia: http://www.brindabellaairlines.com.au/
Aerocon, Bolivia: http://www.aerocon.bo/
Bearskin, Canada: http://www.bearskinairlines.com/
Perimiter, Canada: http://www.perimeter.ca/

I'm going to catch a Brindabella Metroliner BNE-CFS in July   


Also, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that Convair 580. Air Chathams is still flying this beauty from CHT to AKl, WLG, and CHC! http://www.airchathams.co.nz/

[Edited 2013-05-13 18:27:12]


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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11635 times:

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):
Peruvian (P9) in Peru still operate some 732s from LIM to at least CUZ

Flew one earlier in the year, along with a BAe146-200A.

Booked a KL M11 LAX-AMS in 3 weeks - I believe possible for June only..


User currently offlinelarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11596 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
From what I can gather, there are 5 airlines still flying the venerable Metroliner on regularly scheduled, bookable flights:

Also Air Norway/North Flying is flying this type AAL-OSL-Ørland/Fagernes

LArs



139, 306, 319, 320, 321, 332, 34A, AN2, AT4, AT5, AT7, 733, 735, 73G, 738, 739, 146, AR1, BH2, CN1, CR2, DH1, DH3, DH4,
User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11584 times:

Sky Airlines is still flying the 737-200. I saw a couple when transiting SCL in April.

https://www.skyairline.cl/(S(0chiif55birxn045zca0qo55))/en/flota-ingles.aspx



I want to live in an old and converted 727...
User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1908 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11560 times:
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Quoting Hywel (Reply 4):

Only 3 of them left, and they are now only used for passengers in either charter or ad-hoc flights. All scheduled turboprop flights are now DH2's.

Martijn



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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8197 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11556 times:

My buddy Olivier has done some in-depth research on the scene in Russia and here is what he sent me the other day.

Il-96: will be used on popular Aeroflot flights to Sochi, even twice a day => easy to do a dayreturn and inexpensive destination (lot of competition); also Aeroflot to Cyprus and Istanbul (bookable through Expedia et al - the only way to earn mileage with a major alliance while flying Russian hardware), can be booked as a through-ticket eg BRU-SVO-IST at a reasonable price and no need to go airside at SVO and hence no need to get visa

Yak-42: Utair seems to be still using a few Yak-42 probably operated by Tulpar on the following routes from VKO : Kurgan (nightstop), Narjan-Mar (daystop possible), Syktyvkar (daystop possible) and Nizhnekamsk (nightstop only). All flights can be easily booked on Utair website. Saravia, Grony Avia and Izhavia are still three surviving small carriers in Russia but ... for how long ? State closed most of the small airlines those last months (KMV, Saransk, Redwings, Dagestan Airlines, ..) and those two carriers could disappear anytime so it would be wise not to book too early in advance. They offer twice daily service to Saratov, Grozny and Izhevsk from DME/VKO. Daystop are possible for less than 200€ on the website of each airline (but couldn't find any for Grozny Avia). Gazpromavia is still offering a VKO-LED-VKO on Friday night and Sunday afternoon starting at 70€ oneway ! This flight can be combined with the oneway on the AN148 of Rossja but the Sukoi doesn't seem to be active on the route

Tu-134: probably a few still flying scheduled around Mirny but impossible to go there

Tu-154: only 3 airlines are still actively using the type : UTAIR but only for special flights, ALROSA but flights to Mirny are extreemly expensive, always full and impossible to book besides they are getting 737... and Gazpromavia which is still using their TU5 on a daily VKO to Makachkala in Dagestan (code MCX). You must spend a night there and price is rather high (350€ return) but the flight seems to stop on 16 June so this could be the LAST SCHEDULED TU5 IN THE WORLD ! Flight is easy to buy on the website of Utair (codeshare with the airline). However, I've noticed that some flights are open only for the next two months. It could be worth checking early May if they have extended the flight.

An-24: still a few of UTair flying from Syktyvskar connecting with the Moscow flight to Uktha for exemple.

Tu-204: since the grounding of Red Wings... nothing possible at the moment

767-200: Utair is using them on daily service to Surgut, Sochi (could be combined with IL96), Tyumen, Ekaterinabug and Mineral Voday. Dayreturn are possible and prices are low



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineHywel From Malaysia, joined Apr 2008, 814 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11542 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Tu-154: only 3 airlines are still actively using the type : UTAIR but only for special flights

Interestingly, UTair seem to have been using the Tu-154 on VKO-LED a fair bit... 11 times in the past 3 weeks, for example:

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ut489/

However, they're all scheduled as Boeing 737s and they're last minute substitutions.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Tu-204: since the grounding of Red Wings... nothing possible at the moment

Vladivostok Air still fly Tu-204s, but only to far-Eastern destinations. Sadly, they don't operate SVO-AER on behalf of Aeroflot any more.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
ALROSA but flights to Mirny are extreemly expensive, always full and impossible to book besides they are getting 737...

Alrosa still fly DME-GDZ once per week and it's scheduled as the Tu-154 up until September. As it's a quiet route (when I flew it, there were less than 10 passengers), they're unlike to substitute it for a 737.


User currently offlineHywel From Malaysia, joined Apr 2008, 814 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11540 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Tu-134: probably a few still flying scheduled around Mirny but impossible to go there

Oh, and UTair still have the Tu-134 scheduled on the following routes:

DME-PEE
DME-ULY
DME-USK

Prices aren't cheap though!


User currently offlineSkyeurope From Germany, joined May 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11540 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):

There's a cheaper way to get on an Alrosa TU5: On Mondays they operate (Mirniy)-Novosibirsk-Yekaterinburg-Novosibirsk(-Mirniy). OVB-SVX-OVB is available from about 160EUR/oneway. In the past few weeks even TU134s operated that flight!

As well, they operate some flights to the Black Sea, for example to Gelendzhik, in summer.


User currently offlinea3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11533 times:

Anyone know about L1011? I would love to fly one of them again...


Why is 10 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.
User currently offlinehuntsman80 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11530 times:

Quoting Hywel (Reply 14):
Oh, and UTair still have the Tu-134 scheduled on the following routes:

DME-PEE
DME-ULY
DME-USK

Prices aren't cheap though!

Checking the flight schedules on OAG, none of these appear to be TU3 operated? The only UTair (Express) services I have located are VKO-USK (UR381) and SGC-UFA (UR9533).

Interestingly, Kish Air of Iran is however shown as operating TU3s on various domestic journeys - does anyone have any further info on these because as far as I could see they ceased TU3 operations years ago?

For the 747SP, this is showing as operating, as we knew PEK and KUL, but from 16th Jul will also be returning to BOM. This is currently scheduled for the Tuesday out and back with ticket prices around the 265GBP mark one way in Y. KUL by contrast is closer to 480GBP.

If anyone is interesting in joining forces for some of these last opportunities out there I'd be game for a trip out to grab some of the Russian metal (TU3, TU5, Yak-42, AN4 etc.) and also a classic IR 747 run (which if timings work I wouldn't mind combining with the Biman DC-10)!

Still kicking myself for not taking up UK_Dispatcher's offer of the Il-18 trip   and don't want the same feeling again!

[Edited 2013-05-14 10:34:22]

User currently offlineHywel From Malaysia, joined Apr 2008, 814 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11514 times:

Quoting huntsman80 (Reply 17):
Checking the flight schedules on OAG, none of these appear to be TU3 operated? The only UTair (Express) services I have located are VKO-USK (UR381) and SGC-UFA (UR9533).

They show on the UTair website, although not every day is scheduled as a Tu-134 - some days of the week it's an ATR-72, Boeing 737 etc.


User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11490 times:

Quoting a3xx900 (Reply 16):
Anyone know about L1011? I would love to fly one of them again...

Nothing, I am afraid... Have been looking for it since years, as the Tristar left me some fond memories from my childhood.
Only chance would be if you are a high roller - then maybe Sands Casino Corp. would fetch you up with theirs.


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3014 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 11414 times:

Quoting DUSint (Reply 19):
Only chance would be if you are a high roller - then maybe Sands Casino Corp. would fetch you up with theirs.

Isn't theirs still grounded in Thailand?



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlinea3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11390 times:

Quoting DUSint (Reply 19):
as the Tristar left me some fond memories from my childhood.

LTU, I guess? Me too. Was able to jumpseat upon landing once.... very vague memories...



Why is 10 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7968 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11390 times:

Quoting huntsman80 (Thread starter):
B707: According to Sam Chui these ceased in mid-April with a simultaneous cessation of all Saha Air services. There are again rumours of Saha Air resuming operations but it is unclear if the 707s will get a repreive.

Saha is probably long gone, as these a/c are reportedly being re-converted back to tankers. These frames were actually converted to pax config from tankers originally.



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User currently offlinehuntsman80 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11313 times:

Managed to get some more clarity on the Il-18 situation within the Horn of Africa. These flights ceased due to a Djiboutian government ban on all passenger Il-18 flights and such are being utilised for freighter only duties at present.

It is possible that one of the Il-18s may be operating domestic services within Somalia with Jubba but I have yet to initiate contact with anyone who can give me any further clarity. Anyone with any additional information would be much appreciated.

I believe this leaves the Air Koryo as the only other passenger Il-18 operated in the world. The Grixona frame was converted to freighter 2010/11 and I am unaware of any other passenger config frames still in airworthy condition.


User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11153 times:

Is anyone still operating a flying boat (not a floatplane), such as a Grumman Mallard, and taking passengers? I've found the website of a tour operator in Vanuatu, but that's a little bit out of the way if I'm honest.

Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.



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User currently offlineIl62Mdakar From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11237 times:

Thank you very much Huntsman for starting this thread again.

Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.

These flights are quite expensive. The best way is probably collecting some Executive Club Miles/Avios and redeem them on Sunair.


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 26, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11229 times:

One aircraft very little is talked about is the IL-114.
Are they still active ?
I suspect Uzbekistan Airways is my best bet ...



I miss the sound of rolls royce darts and speys
User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11382 times:

Quoting Il62Mdakar (Reply 25):
Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.

These flights are quite expensive. The best way is probably collecting some Executive Club Miles/Avios and redeem them on Sunair.

Nice to see others being interested in this type!! I am also not willing to pay those rather high fares (esp. one-way). The cheapest I came up with were some flights on the BLL-MUC route - that was around 404,- €. Still to much for fun!
On a side note: I got the Do 328 prop version on Cirrus (sadly they ceased ops) a few years ago and that was real fun! This little thing goes down the runway like on a catapult.

Quoting a3xx900 (Reply 21):
Quoting DUSint (Reply 19):
as the Tristar left me some fond memories from my childhood.

LTU, I guess? Me too. Was able to jumpseat upon landing once.... very vague memories...

Correct! Some flights to the Canaries in the late 80s and early 90s.


Like in another thread in Civil Aviation, I would like to remember the Aviogenex B732 operating for two months around Europe on behalf of JAT.


User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 28, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11314 times:

Quoting DUSint (Reply 27):
Nice to see others being interested in this type!

I have been for some time, alas the fares have always been extremely high - never less than, say, three times what a non-direct flight costs or what a competitor charges. Combined with the complete lack of Avios in my BA EC account, this means that my interest will have to remain mere interest... oh well, can't fly them all.   



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User currently onlineHAM From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 29, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11263 times:

Yak-40:

Just saw this in the CH-Aviation newsletter...

"Ukraine's Motor Sich Airlines to reintroduce Yak 40 flights

20MAY2013

Motor Sich Airlines (M9, Zaporozhye (OZH)) are set to begin Kiev Zhulyany (IEV) to Krivoj Rog Lozovatka (KWG) flights using their fleet of two Yak-40s, marking the Russian aircraft type's first return to active scheduled service in Ukraine after most, if not all, of its previous civilian operators moved to retire it for economic reasons. The three times weekly flights will début from May 20. Motor Sich Airlines is a division of the aero engine manufacturer Motor Sich based in Zaporozhye, Ukraine, who are renowned for making the famous D-18T turbofan which powers variants of the Antonov An-124 and An-225 freighters."


User currently offlinehuntsman80 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11246 times:

Quoting HAM (Reply 29):
Ukraine's Motor Sich Airlines to reintroduce Yak 40 flights

Pretty cheap as well 45GBP one way or 80GBP return.

Unfortunately an out and back from Kiev is not possible in a single day. There are however three options: 1. Wait two days for the return, 2. Catch the UTAir flight to VKO, 3. Catch the overnight sleeper train back to Kiev (10-35GBP).

Looks not too bad - is there any other old Russian metal still operational in Ukraine?


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1908 posts, RR: 42
Reply 31, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11236 times:
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Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Is anyone still operating a flying boat (not a floatplane), such as a Grumman Mallard, and taking passengers? I've found the website of a tour operator in Vanuatu, but that's a little bit out of the way if I'm honest.

A LEY based PBY-5A Catalina is once again bookable for classic fans, it includes a touch and go on the water. Highly recommendable!

http://www.catalina-pby.nl/



Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 32, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11235 times:

Quoting HAM (Reply 29):
Ukraine's Motor Sich Airlines to reintroduce Yak 40 flights

Great ! The YAK-40 is still missing in my "portfolio".
Just checked Motorsich´s website and it´s true the promo fare is availlable for 927 UAH all-in return equal to about 92,-€

I need to check what other flights are availlable into/out of Krivoy Rog or at least near by (if everything fails I may take a night train ...)

Maybe I can tick off my to-do list the AN-140 as well this time ...

[Edited 2013-05-20 11:39:13]


I miss the sound of rolls royce darts and speys
User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 33, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11202 times:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 31):
A LEY based PBY-5A Catalina is once again bookable for classic fans, it includes a touch and go on the water. Highly recommendable!

I may have to quote George Takei just this once: Oh my!

Thank you very much indeed!



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinedba4u From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 670 posts, RR: 14
Reply 34, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11151 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 24):
Apart from that, is it possible to book Sun Air of Scandinavia (Dornier 328JET) without having to pay an arm and a leg? I've seen outlandish prices such as €474 for MAN-GOT - one way - and that's not even worth dreaming about.

You may want to check Finnair as AY is codesharing on AAR-OSL/GOT/BMA

I scored the FRJ on an AAR-GOT-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-ARN AY itinerary which cost me a very reasonable 133EUR, although this was admitedly a youth fare AY is offering some pretty good "BASIC" fares as well.

For example AAR-XXX-HEL-TLL-HEL-GERMANY is currently to be had for 1105DKK, or about 150EUR when booking in advance, even less when not adding TLL. However it's propably cheaper to fly to TLL as hotel prices in Estonia tend to be "slightly" cheaper then in Finland  

Highly recommended trip! We were 4 passengers on AAR-GOT, took off like a rocket and got served so much food one could barely finish the meal during the flight...


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 554 posts, RR: 4
Reply 35, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11112 times:

Great this topic is back.... Thanks for opening a new version.

Quoting MHG (Reply 26):
One aircraft very little is talked about is the IL-114.
Are they still active ?
I suspect Uzbekistan Airways is my best bet ...

Best and only bet. Also missing from my list and if a type is only operated by a single airline one should act fast. Though I heard the Il-114 is actually produced in Tashkent, hence there is some pressure on Uzbekistan to operate the type. And they recently purchased an Il-114 simulator, showing continued committment to the type. Also the most recent delivery is only a few months ago, I have postponed a trip into 2014 for this reason.

Regarding the other Russian types - I just came back from a 1 week Russia trip - which unfortunately was very unsuccessful in regards to new types. Nevertheless I observed the following:

DME:
+ Alrosa still flies the Tu-154M there, saw three airframes at the same time
+ Multiple Yak-42 services per day from Saravia
+ S7 A310-300 still sitting on the ramp
+ Transaero Tu-214 is back in service (only and last operator!)
+ Transaero 747-300 and 747-300(SR) looked active and are currently uploaded into the schedules

SVO
+ SSJ-95 and Il-96 are the only highlights. GOJ is the safest roundtrip in terms of SSJ, I got two different regs on a roundtrip
+ 2x Tu-204-300 operate from SVO for SU to the far east. The other four airframes are based in KHV and VVO. One aircraft is rotated per week between the far east and SVO for maintenance.

LED:
+ My An-148 ended up being an A319, same for my friend Bernd
+ LED is the FV An-148 base though, saw 4 airframes parked there

VVO:
+ Flew the Tu-204-300 to KHV and return, got three regs on three flights. Be aware the Tu-204-300 will likely be retired by the end of the summer schedule due to the SU merger, the last option will then be Air Koryo with a single airframe

KHV:
+ There was a Yak-40 service, didnt check the details though
+ Multiple An-24 services
+ An-26-100 also operate from there, though when we were about to give it a try it was an An-24
+ Vostok operates the super rare An-38, though when we were there the aircraft was AOG   
+ Yakutia operates the SSJ and An-140, though all An-140 flights were subbed with An-24s when we were there

UUS:
+ SAT's 737-200 are still active but due for replacement I heard
+ SAT operates the rare DHC-8-200
+ Mutliple An-24 departures while I was there

Some other info I can share:
+ F-27: Last scheduled pax version in the world with TAM Bolivia. I was there a month ago and nailed it on 5 flights. Apparently LADE in Argentine still has it occasionally on some flights, though unscheduled.
+ 727-200: Also TAM Bolivia, one of the last with the Iran Aseman 727s.
+ 737-200: Also with TAM Bolivia. Just got introduced so they will remain for a while
+ Mil Mi-8: Scheduled pax flights from Varadero to Trinidad on AeroGaviota. Highly recommended and great fun
+ An-26B: Scheduled flights from Havana to Cayo Largo, got two regs on a daytrip.
+ An-140: In the Ukraine currently only uploaded into a city in the western Ukraine, only during the weekdays and requires an overnight stop. On the good side with Motor Sich there can be a pax An-74 equipment change, happened to a friend of mine in March!

Regards,
Loran

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User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11077 times:

Quoting dba4u (Reply 34):
You may want to check Finnair as AY is codesharing on AAR-OSL/GOT/BMA

Thank you very, very much! This is indeed a cunning plan to bypass the high fares - I just played around a bit with the AY booking system and came up with at least nearly the fares you described (not that I didn't believe you - I was just curious).
Now, nothing will get between me and the Do328J any longer!  


User currently offlinewhiskeyhotel From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10815 times:

I flew on one of Air North's HS-748 Series 2A aircraft this weekend on YXY-YDA (it is in a combi configuration, with cargo up front and 40 seats in the rear). Per the FAs, finding spares/parts for the type is becoming quite difficult, the fleet has had a lot of maintenance issues, and Air North is looking at retiring the type this year. Aside from Air North, I believe Air Inuit is the only other commercial passenger/combi operator of the type, with 2 airframes. Pretty rare aircraft.

Can highly recommend Whitehorse and the area around Dawson City as cool places to visit. Between Marsh Lake, the hot springs near Whitehorse, the Yukon Transportation Museum (sporting the world's largest weather vane - a former Canadian Pacific DC-3 mounted on a pylon in front of the museum), nearby Atlin and Skagway, the Dempster Highway (and Tombstone Territorial Park), Top of the World Highway, and historic Dawson City itself, there's plenty to see and do up there.

25K UA miles can get you as far as YXY on AC.

[Edited 2013-05-28 13:49:40]

User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 38, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10752 times:

You can hop on a Citation from DUS to LUX; there's a small German carrier called Hahn Air that sells tickets for this route - at €270 a pop, as far as I can see.


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User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 39, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10633 times:

Fil Asian Airlines in the Philippines is getting ready to launch YS-11 operations. On their Facebook site, it says that a batch of pilots have recently undergone pilot training for the YS-11... Now that would be something!


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User currently offlineTupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2186 posts, RR: 28
Reply 40, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10607 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 38):
You can hop on a Citation from DUS to LUX; there's a small German carrier called Hahn Air that sells tickets for this route - at €270 a pop, as far as I can see.

I think I remember reading a trip report about a while ago about this flight. Just found it and is bookable through Amadeus, with Cessna Citation showing as the aircraft type. I'd love to do this but I can't justify £240 for a 45 minute flight!



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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10563 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 39):
Fil Asian Airlines in the Philippines is getting ready to launch YS-11 operations. On their Facebook site, it says that a batch of pilots have recently undergone pilot training for the YS-11... Now that would be something!

It´s still very unclear whether this venture will get off the ground eventually ...
In the Philippines there are a lot of would-be entrepreneurs ...
In this particular case the owner has an aviation business already in Cebu but no permit to operate scheduled ops. And because CAAP (civil aviation authority) is under very close watch by FAA and EASA/EU they´re not easy to grant a new permission at this time.



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 42, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10515 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
From what I can gather, there are 5 airlines still flying the venerable Metroliner on regularly scheduled, bookable flights:
Quoting airevents (Reply 39):
Fil Asian Airlines in the Philippines is getting ready to launch YS-11 operations. On their Facebook site, it says that a batch of pilots have recently undergone pilot training for the YS-11... Now that would be something!

One in full colours stored at MNL
One in full colours seen inactive at CEB

Obeservations from last week.



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User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 43, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10337 times:

Some types not mentioned so far:
DC-3; final passenger scheduled flight with Buffalo Airways; Yellowknife-Hay River. About 15 more are flying worldwide on enthousiast/sightseeing flights. Sometimes membership required. In the Netherlands, Australia, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, USA and South Africa. Not in the UK or Germany at the moment afaik.
DC-4; enthousiast flights are being done in South Africa
DC-9; Delta still has a few -50s. One -10 might still fly domestically in Kenya with flysax, formerly Eastern African Safari express. A few 30s and 50s survive in Venezuela (Aeropostal and Aserca) but quite hard to get on one.
L-1049 Super Constellation; enthousiast/member flights from Basel
C-212; civil flights in Kiribati, Bolivia and the outer islands of Indonesia
F-28 Fellowship ; LADE of Argentina flies the short -1000s. Biman and Myanma recently withdrew theirs. One or two might also still fly elsewhere in Africa
GAF Nomad; sightseeing flights in New Zealand
Trislander; Aurigny on the Channel Islands and Great Barrier AL in Auckland New Zealand fly scheduled. Other airlines in Puerto Rico, Venezuela and such but not heared them flying lately.
BAe-ATP; NextJet and Sverigeflyg in Sweden are the last airlines flying pax, but multiple options from both Arlanda and Bromma for short affordable trips.
Shorts 360; Tiara Air between Aruba-Curucao is the easiest option nowadays. Also flying pax around Guam (Freedom Air), Israel (Ayit Aviation) and Air Seychelles.

Some types still flying but seems to be out of reach for ordinary people:
Nord 262; one might still fly in Congo with Malu Aviation
BAC 1-11; the last VIP 1-11 seems wfu by now. Only two testbeds in the USA still operating
DC-6; Flying Bulls in Austria fly a VIP one but not bookable
DC-8 ; ATI just donated the combi DC-8-62 they used for last years enthousiast flight to a museum in Hawaii. They might not be able to schedule another pax charter anymore
G-159/G-1 some VIP aircraft exist, not in pax airline service
Il-86; all pax aircraft are now wfu, only 3 military are still operational



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User currently offlinehuntsman80 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10248 times:

Another one bites the dust....

Quoting chaviation:


Venezuela's INAC to ban all DC9, 737-200, 727 ops from November

Aeropostal along with Aserca Airlines, Avior Airlines, Estelar Latinoamerica, Laser and Conviasa have all announced plans to replace their ageing DC9s, B737-200s and 727s in line with a NOTAM issued by Venezuela’s National Institute of Civil Aviation (Instituto Nacional de Aeronáutica Civil - INAC) that will prohibit operations of those aircraft types in the country from November 1, 2013. ch-aviation can exclusively reveal the following fleet upgrades that currently underway: Aeropostal will replace its two remaining DC-9-50s with three ex-Alitalia MD-82s. Aserca will replace its last four DC-9-30s with four ex-AeroMéxico (AM, México City Benito Juárez International (MEX)) MD-83s and MD-87s. Avior is in the process of adding three B737-400s and six Fokker 50s to its fleet to replace its fleet of seven B737-200 Adv.s. Estelar Latinoamerica has added a first ex-Seagle Air (SJ, Bratislava Milan Rastislav Stefánik (BTS)) B737-300, N773KR (msn 23773), as a first step towards replacing its four B737-200Advs. Laser plans to add more ex-American Airlines (AA, Dallas Fort Worth International (DFW)) MD-82s to replace its three DC-9-30s. State owned carrier, Conviasa, has taken delivery of three brand new EMB-190s, though it continues to operate two B737-200Advs. However, as of this writing, no information regarding either the future of RAVSA Venezolana and Rutaca Airlines and their respective fleets of B737-200Adv. or that of Vensecar Internacional and its fleet of four 727Fs operating for DHL, is known.



User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12340 posts, RR: 18
Reply 45, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10228 times:
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Not operating scheduled flights but there are two (?) DC3s still flying here in New Zealand. I was on a war time era painted Royal New Zealand Air Force DC3 charter flight last year at the RNZAFs 75th celebrations. Both are currently based at museums IIRC but can be chartered.

User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 46, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10220 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
Also, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that Convair 580. Air Chathams is still flying this beauty from CHT to AKl, WLG, and CHC!

Oh, how I'd love to do that! Spend over an entire day, or maybe even two, flying to the other and of the world to do nothing but try a rare passenger aircraft...   

I hope this is a place where I can say that without being looked at funny...   



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 16
Reply 47, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10207 times:

Quoting huntsman80 (Reply 44):
Another one bites the dust....

Worth a trip back to Venezuela before the end of the year to fly on whichever old bangers I can get??....hmmm tempting - lol but It might mean I clock 120000 miles of leisure travel chasing aeroplanes for 2013.


User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 10192 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 46):
I hope this is a place where I can say that without being looked at funny...

 

The GREAT thing about our - well - off-the-beaten-track-hobby is that you learn a lot of new interesting things as side effects... Went to Belgrade yesterday just to try this Aviogenex B732adv and had six hours to spend in the city. And I liked it quite a lot! Wouldn't really have considered a weekend there before - but now I am happy that I did a visit!


User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 49, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10100 times:

So DUSint, did you get the Aviogenex? Fantastic little airplane!


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User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9963 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 49):
So DUSint, did you get the Aviogenex? Fantastic little airplane!

Yeah, did it and am quite happy about it still. The whole experience was pleasant - nice crew and the interior is just great. Psychedelic 70s style: Middle seats bright blue with little waves, the others bright red with black stripes. Walls with some weird pattern. I realized the JT8Ds on a 737 are MUCH quieter from inside the cabin than mounted on the fuselage of a MD80... Fares are quite reasonable. Would suggest to do some sightseeing in Belgrade.

Did you catch it, too?


User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 51, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9958 times:

Quoting DUSint (Reply 48):
The GREAT thing about our - well - off-the-beaten-track-hobby is that you learn a lot of new interesting things as side effects...

That's very, very true. I wouldn't have seen snow on palmtrees (on Guernsey) and wouldn't be travelling to the Isle of Man if not for certain small aircraft.   

Anyway, I heard that the last flying Avro Vulcan is in its final flying season. If you want to see it, I suggest heading to e.g. the RIAT in July.



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User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 52, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9989 times:

@DUSInt:
No, I didn´t catch it yet, as I am on vacation at the moment. Hope to get it still when I come back to Germany.

But, speaking of 737-200s, Indonesia is a place where you can still get those. I flew on an Expressair 737-200 yesterday, which was a bit of a surprise, as I had only seen their 737-500s before. Trigana Air and Sriwijaya are two more airlines operating the -200. Flights in Indonesia are super affordable, yet super unreliable. You must bring lots of patience...



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User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 9936 times:

Won't be too long before we start talking about 747s becoming rare aircraft to fly on! Five years time say, apart from the odd 747-800 operator, there won't be too many of the current 744s still going in regular passenger use. The 747 is retiring quicker than new one's are being built.

[Edited 2013-06-06 11:02:57]

User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 54, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9931 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 53):
Won't be too long before we start talking about 747s becoming rare aircraft to fly on!

Add to that: The A340! Not many years ago it was just another widebody airliner for me, and these days I try to catch one whenever I can because I've started to like them so much and they are really hard to come by, especially the -300 and the -500! I'm glad I got to catch some -200s back in the days. How time passes!

Soren   



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User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9874 times:

Maybe someone here is on the hunt for the AN-148 since a while or has logged it already and can tell us about regular (!) routings/schedule?
Rossiya send theirs sometimes to Germany (FRA, DUS) on short notice.
But to be honest, I would like to plan my bookings a bit more in advance than only half a day...


User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 56, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 9838 times:

I flew on Rossiya´s Antonov 148 from SXF to LED about two years ago if I remember correctly. It was a very pleasant flight, the aircraft was brandnew but you could tell that it was not a western-built aircraft. Uneven luggage bins and some minor details. It was a very nice flight and at that time, the Antonov 148 was scheduled to fly there, that is why I booked that trip. Does anyone know how the Ukrainian 148s are doing? Last time I checked it seemed to do regular flights from Kiev to Kharkiv.


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User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 513 posts, RR: 17
Reply 57, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9761 times:

I have seen that the A148 is currently on daily schedule to KBP and TLL as far as I know, if you book from Kiev to Talinn, you can catch 2 A148 and its quite affordable.

User currently onlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9743 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 54):

There is one SAA A342 still flying which is ZS-SLF. This occasionally operates the JNB-LHR-JNB route.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ZSSLF

There are four RJA A342s still flying JY-AIA, JY-AIB, JY-AIC and JY-AID and you can track their routes here. Once in awhile one operates the AMM-LHR-AMM route.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JYAIA

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JYAIB

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JYAIC

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JYAID


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 16
Reply 59, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9703 times:

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 57):
There are four RJA A342s still flying JY-AIA, JY-AIB, JY-AIC and JY-AID and you can track their routes here. Once in awhile one operates the AMM-LHR-AMM route.

There are 4x A342s still operating for AR, I have flown all four. I thought Conviasa had one too. Before the 343s arrived they used to operate to SYD/AKL/EZE-BOG/CCS/MIA/JFK/MAD/FCO/MXP plus select other shorthauls. I think it has been reduced to just certain markets now.


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 60, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9636 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 52):
Flights in Indonesia are super affordable, yet super unreliable. You must bring lots of patience...

I flew a lot domestically in Indonesia, and only had a delay of 1 hours once on Sriwijaya Air. All other flights had been on time and operating according the schedule.

I would tend to say that flying is reliable in Indonesia. (without saying that their safety standards are reliable)



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User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 61, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9554 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 60):
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 60):
I flew a lot domestically in Indonesia, and only had a delay of 1 hours once on Sriwijaya Air. All other flights had been on time and operating according the schedule.

I would tend to say that flying is reliable in Indonesia. (without saying that their safety standards are reliable)

Hello Eric,
my experience is completely different to yours then. During a week in Indonesia, I have now taken some 20+ flights. Delays ranged from 45 minutes to 3 hours to spontaneous cancellations and that is on different carriers, Merpati was worst of all by far. It took a lot of effort and re-planning to finally fly their MA60. Garuda flights were usually on time or close to that and today I even had two flights that were a bit early: Susi Air Cessna 208 and Kalstar ATR42. Praise to these fine airlines.

Back to the topic, there is a Dash7 and two Casa 212s at Balikpapan Airport and they seem to fly frequently. Both types operated by Pelita on oil charters but who knows, maybe there is a way to sneak on? I will try to find out more tomorrow.



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 62, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9513 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 61):
Back to the topic, there is a Dash7 and two Casa 212s at Balikpapan Airport and they seem to fly frequently. Both types operated by Pelita

The Dash 7 seems to fly to Bontang

You are aware a Merpati MA-60 crash-landed today? PK-MZO is the unlucky one.



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User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 63, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9435 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 62):
The Dash 7 seems to fly to Bontang

You are aware a Merpati MA-60 crash-landed today? PK-MZO is the unlucky one.

Yes, I saw that in the newspaper. I flew on PK-MZD a few days ago. It can happen so fast. Well, for those of you who are keen on flying a 737-200, Indonesia is really a good place. I travelled on Trigana Air Service´ 737-200 today, a short flight from Banjarmasin to Balkipapan. Cost me about 30 Euros. Fantastic aircraft, in great shape so I reckon it will be flying for a while. Another option is Express Air. I have seen their 737-200 flying through Yogyakarta on three different occasions, so you seem have good chances there. Their 737-500 was in Jakarta all the time, but that may be pure coincidence. Sriwijaya also still fly a few 737-200s but seem to offload them rapidly to other Indonesian carriers. From what I saw, they mostly operate short flights out of Jakarta but so far, I have not been lucky...



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User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 9423 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 63):
Well, for those of you who are keen on flying a 737-200, Indonesia is really a good place.

Wouldn't doubt that. I can imagine this to be a very enjoyable holiday- no, "hard work" for aviation enthusiasts...
However, what I found intriguing about flying the Aviogenex 732 is the fact that this special bird is the last of its kind in Europe. Just go to the airport like in "the early days" of jet-aviation and fly real scheduled routes with a regular, all-passenger Boeing 737-200. I like it!  
No need to go to Africa, South America or Indonesia. Just walk out of your door and fly!


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 554 posts, RR: 4
Reply 65, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9186 times:

Hi all, I am planning a trip to South Africa in September and I'm wondering if you know any aircraft rarities I could include in the trip. So far I have identified the following:

+ Freedom Air Do-228 fom GCJ (Johannesburg Grand Central)
+ SAA Museum DC-4
+ UH-1 Huey Helicopter Tours

Questions:
+ Is Air Zimbabwe operating again and how about their MA-60s? I heard somewhere they were stored
+ Is there a schedule for the DC-4s? I know they operate to Airshows mainly, but do they also do other flights, eg. sightseeing flights?
+ I heard there was still a CV-580 around somewhere, but I dont exactly know what this is about.

Thanks for any hints and tips.
Regards,
Loran



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User currently offlineb2319 From China, joined Jan 2013, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9180 times:

All, maybe a little off-topic, however:

If anybody wants to log a Xian XA-60, just visit Laos.

The most friendliest country in the whole world, in my opinion.

Polarised between Luang Prabang, sleepy towns with monks, & Vientienne,Colonial Capital City.

Much this [may] be a USA website, my advice is to get your arses out to SE Asia, you won't be disappointed in my opinion.....

Regards

B-2319

{edited: grammar & syntax; not content}

[Edited 2013-06-16 07:10:49]

User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 554 posts, RR: 4
Reply 67, posted (1 year 6 months 14 hours ago) and read 8863 times:

Two interesting topics are being discussed separately in the Civil Aviation forum, in case you havent seen it yet:

Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service (by dforce1 Jun 17 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013 (by cedarjet Jun 24 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Regards,
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User currently offlineSkyeurope From Germany, joined May 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8537 times:

Hi,

any info, if 5Y-XXA (East African/Fly-SAX DC9-14) is still operating scheduled flights?

Their F28 5Y-EEE is shown as operating some flights to Kisumu and Mombasa on behalf of Fly540, as well as flights to Lokichoggio and Mogadishu.


User currently offlineSIA747Megatop From Singapore, joined Apr 2012, 328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 69, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8532 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
Dash 7: Only one place left in the world to fly on a scheduled passenger Dash 7, but it's extremely easy, cheap, no weird visas or dangerous countries, and 0% chance of equipment change: Berjaya Air Singapore to Kuala Lumpur, via TOD (Pulau Tioman). Spend a day or two on this beautiful island or just do the SIN - SZB trip directly with a brief stopover. You'll have to book 2 separate tickets though, and notify the company at check-in, as they don't market the through flight. Make yourself noticed by the pilots as an airline enthusiast, and you'll probably fly in the jump seat.

I've done the SIN-TOD and TOD-SIN sectors 3 times each and was in the flight deck for all of them for the duration of the flight. I had to stand once as the jump-seat didn't work.



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User currently offlinewhiskeyhotel From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8355 times:

Quoting HAM (Reply 29):
Yak-40:

Just saw this in the CH-Aviation newsletter...

"Ukraine's Motor Sich Airlines to reintroduce Yak 40 flights

20MAY2013

Motor Sich Airlines (M9, Zaporozhye (OZH)) are set to begin Kiev Zhulyany (IEV) to Krivoj Rog Lozovatka (KWG) flights using their fleet of two Yak-40s, marking the Russian aircraft type's first return to active scheduled service in Ukraine after most, if not all, of its previous civilian operators moved to retire it for economic reasons. The three times weekly flights will début from May 20. Motor Sich Airlines is a division of the aero engine manufacturer Motor Sich based in Zaporozhye, Ukraine, who are renowned for making the famous D-18T turbofan which powers variants of the Antonov An-124 and An-225 freighters."

Thanks for this. Planned a trip to the Ukraine in October, and hope to catch a ride down to Zaporozhye on Motor Sich's An-24, and back from Krivyi Rih on the Yak 40.


User currently offlineLPDAL From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 1195 posts, RR: 9
Reply 71, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8061 times:
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Zero Gravity still operates a 727 on their thrill flights, similar to the "Vomit Comet" but for public use. It was parked on the ramp at FLL a few months ago.


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Also, in the same area, Broward College is in posession of an Ex-Fedex 727 painted in the university's colors, although it is inoperative to date. The ramp tour guide told us that the Fedex captain that garnered the donation to the college figured that if he could calculate the aircraft's weight down to the ounce, that he would be able to land it on North Perry's 3,000-foot runway, which would be quite a feat. Nevertheless, the local authorities (Jack Sieler) vetoed this plan and decided to dissemble the 727 and reassemble it on the ramp at North Perry. Today it is used for aircraft maintenance classes.


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User currently offlinetugmaster From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 725 posts, RR: 9
Reply 72, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8001 times:

Morning All,

Anyone wanting to fly a Fairchild Metro 23, then head to OSL .
Air Norway are flying local rotes using a Danish North Flying sip.
Flew OSL-VDB-OSL last week, and I was the only person on the OSL-VDB leg, and only 1 other person boarded at VDB foe the return.

Great experience,...having you own aircraft.

rgds


User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 73, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7958 times:

I shall fly the Metroliner tomorrow, looking forward!!!


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User currently onlineHAM From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 74, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7510 times:

Interestingly, the North Korean state media has mentioned the aviation tours to the country in an article in the Pyongyang Times: http://naenara.com.kp/en/periodic/ti...p?contents+16311+2013-07-28+708+26

I'm surprised to read that they even refer to their own fleet as "several kinds of old-fashioned aircraft"...

A "French aviation enthusiast" is quoted in the article - maybe an a.netter?


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5943 posts, RR: 5
Reply 75, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7433 times:

Quoting tugmaster (Reply 72):
I shall fly the Metroliner tomorrow, looking forward!!!

Ooo, where? I flew one the day before you!

Quoting tugmaster (Reply 72):
Anyone wanting to fly a Fairchild Metro 23, then head to OSL

I didn't realise that they were still flying in Norway, that's good to know!

I can only imagine how stunning it must have been flying OSL-VDB at relatively low altitude! Was it clear weather? Is so then I am very, very jealous!

If you can't get to Europe, then Canada or Australia are your best bets:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
Sharp Airlines, Australia: http://sharpairlines.com.au//
Brindabella Airlines, Australia: http://www.brindabellaairlines.com.au/
Aerocon, Bolivia: http://www.aerocon.bo/
Bearskin, Canada: http://www.bearskinairlines.com/
Perimiter, Canada: http://www.perimeter.ca/



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 725 posts, RR: 9
Reply 76, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7372 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 75):
I can only imagine how stunning it must have been flying OSL-VDB at relatively low altitude! Was it clear weather? Is so then I am very, very jealous!

would gladly upload the photos I took.... if I only knew how.....


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 554 posts, RR: 4
Reply 77, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7429 times:

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 76):

Which reg did you fly on? I flew onboard OY-NPE last year. And I surprisingly saw OY-NPD in ZRH a few days ago...

Regarding photos, in your profile there is a link saying 'add photos' at the very bottom. Thats probably the easiest way or you use flickr, photobucket, etc.

Regards,
Loran



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 725 posts, RR: 9
Reply 78, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7401 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 77):
Which reg did you fly on?

OY-NPD

believe they have 3 Metro's in the fleet

will check out the photo sharing sites...

the add photos bit at the bottom of the profile , is limited to 2mb....


User currently offlineSkyeurope From Germany, joined May 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7397 times:

Yes, they've got 3:

OY-NPD
OY-NPE
OY-NPF (flown that one on behalf of Avies on TLL-KDL-TLL in November 2011)


User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 725 posts, RR: 9
Reply 80, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7371 times:

ok...
try this...
like I said, I was the only person on the OSL-VDB leg, and just 1 other joined me for the return to Oslo.

Lots of reflection in the engine nacelles
and in the very last few, you get a good reflection of the Metro with the gear down.

also some weird propeller shots....

all taken with a trusty iPhone 5




http://www.flickr.com/photos/99116142@N04/


User currently onlineHAM From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 81, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7266 times:

The Embraer 120, normally quite rare in Western Europe, can be caught on Intersky's ZRH-SZG route from 5-29 August due to a wetlease: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...es-bas-embraer-120-for-peak-season

User currently offlineclassicjets From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7187 times:

There was a mention of Classic Jet Tours' Convair 580 and Gulfstream G-I flights over in Civil Av.
Fly On CV-580 And Gulfstream 1 - Avgeek Day Out (by cedarjet Jul 19 2013 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5943 posts, RR: 5
Reply 83, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7142 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 75):
Ooo, where? I flew one the day before you!

Sorry that was directed at airevents!

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 80):
ok...
try this...

Thanks, shame it was cloudy but it still looks like a fun trip!



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User currently offlinedispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 84, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7076 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
MD11 - Only a handful flying for KLM, and every once in a while one goes to the desert, so your last chance has come

Unless you can fly on cargo carriers. I'm on an MD11 for 48 flight hours this coming Sept/Oct



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User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1418 posts, RR: 22
Reply 85, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6861 times:

I fly a HS748 does that count? Unfortunately there is no way to book yourself as a passenger on our Hawkers as they only fly freight or bulk fuel.

Cal   



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User currently offlinewhiskeyhotel From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day ago) and read 6808 times:

Quoting classicjets (Reply 82):
There was a mention of Classic Jet Tours' Convair 580 and Gulfstream G-I flights over in Civil Av.
Fly On CV-580 And Gulfstream 1 - Avgeek Day Out (by cedarjet Jul 19 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Thanks for this! Signed up and awaiting Google payment invoice.

Quoting FighterPilot (Reply 85):
I fly a HS748 does that count? Unfortunately there is no way to book yourself as a passenger on our Hawkers as they only fly freight or bulk fuel.

Cal  

As mentioned upthread, Air North has an assortment of combi HS748s flying on routes out of Whitehorse (YXY). Unfortunately, when I spoke to the FAs on a trip in May, they indicated that 4N would be retiring the type by the end of this year (apparently maintenance issues and finding spares have become an issue).


User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 87, posted (1 year 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 6702 times:

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 76):
would gladly upload the photos I took.... if I only knew how.....

Haven't logged in for years, but thought I'd say "great shots". From a massive fan of the San Antonio Sewer Pipe.

What was the ride like? I'm tempted to try my luck in getting on one of these.

Toni



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5943 posts, RR: 5
Reply 88, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6629 times:

Quoting Metroliner (Reply 87):
massive fan of the San Antonio Sewer Pipe.

What was the ride like? I'm tempted to try my luck in getting on one of these.

Do it!

Sorry for the self-plug, but I've just done a Trip Report about flying on a Metroliner if you're interested:
Living The Dream, Flying The Metroliner (by RyanairGuru Jul 22 2013 in Trip Reports)

Feel free to skip the first bit!

Obviously I don't expect that you'd be able to get to Australia, but I couldn't recommend a trip to Norway highly enough. Fantastic country and fantastic plane! 



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User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 89, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

Cheers!

I'll check it out.

Sadly, it doesn't look likely this summer, but they'll be soldiering on somewhere next year too, no doubt.

Toni



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User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 90, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6497 times:

I just got back from a week-long avgeek trip in the British Isles, including the RIAT, a BAe Jetstream 31, a Let L-410 Turbolet and a Saab 2000. If you'd like details, let me know; two short videos are currently being uploaded to YouTube... I forgot to film aboard the Jetstream because it was almost too hot to think inside that thing.


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User currently onlineHAM From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 91, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

Alrosa, operator of Tu-154 with high chances of actually getting on one without aircraft substitution until now, just got a new 738: http://flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1236772

I must say, even though it sucks to see the magnificent Tu-154 replaced by a 738, the new livery is quite stunning!


User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1418 posts, RR: 22
Reply 92, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6229 times:

Quoting whiskeyhotel (Reply 86):
As mentioned upthread, Air North has an assortment of combi HS748s flying on routes out of Whitehorse (YXY). Unfortunately, when I spoke to the FAs on a trip in May, they indicated that 4N would be retiring the type by the end of this year (apparently maintenance issues and finding spares have become an issue).

Yeah, we're in the process of finding a replacement for our HS748's as well, maintenance and fuel burn on the Dart engines has kept our Hawkers uncompetitive with rival companies. All our HS748's are unpressurized because of our large door modifications so we're unable fly high with a freight load due to many of the items we fly being pressure sensitive. Window seals for new windows, sealed groceries like chip bags and so on cannot be flown above 6000ish feet otherwise we risk breaking seals on many of the good we fly.

Cal   



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User currently offlinetugmaster From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 725 posts, RR: 9
Reply 93, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6091 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Il-96: will be used on popular Aeroflot flights to Sochi, even twice a day => easy to do a dayreturn and inexpensive destination (lot of competition); also Aeroflot to Cyprus and Istanbul (bookable through Expedia et al - the only way to earn mileage with a major alliance while flying Russian hardware), can be booked as a through-ticket eg BRU-SVO-IST at a reasonable price and no need to go airside at SVO and hence no need to get visa

Just an update for the Il-96, the only flights I could find are SVO to AER, and a Daily SVO-LCA.
The IST flight is no longer in the SU system that I could see.....
and worst than that, couldn't find any scheduled flights past Oct 27, start of winter sked.

Also,you can book SVO-LCA or v.v for 15,000 Flying Blue Miles on the KLM site, + 4.50 euro....

Now that's the Bargain of the century......!!!!!!!


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 554 posts, RR: 4
Reply 94, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5584 times:

Fil Asian and their YS-11s have delayed their ops start again, this time to 23rd of August.
Initial services are Manila-Tablas and Manila-Masbate.

Regards,
Loran



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 725 posts, RR: 9
Reply 95, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

Just trying to keep the thread alive....

Any update on the YS11's...?

Jetstream 41's plying there trade in the UK with eastern, + internals in Greece to... not sure of Airline.

& according to Airliner World, Next Jet are taking another ATP, so that looks good too.

Any more ..?


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5943 posts, RR: 5
Reply 96, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4871 times:

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 95):
Jetstream 41

Still flying in Australia with Brindabella. They also have J31s, but are phasing them out along with their Metroliners.



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User currently onlineHAM From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 97, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4849 times:

Quite an exotic operation: Jubba Airways of Somalia is planning to operate an An-30 freighter in pax configuration domestically. Might be an opportunity for the real daredevils among the plane hunters.

Source: CH-Aviation, http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...ing-a-congolese-an-30f-for-pax-ops


User currently offlinedba4u From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 670 posts, RR: 14
Reply 98, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 95):
Jetstream 41's plying there trade in the UK with eastern, + internals in Greece to... not sure of Airline.

That's www.skyexpress.gr using the J41 on some rather interesting routes.
Especially their daily flight from Corfu to Kythira is rather good value for money as it's stopping in Preveza, Kefalonia and Zakynthos along the way. That's four J41 flights for 74EUR, although all on the same aircraft which of course is a bit of a let down for reg collectors  
From Kythira one can hop on OA's service to ATH, shedules work out quiet nicely for this trip!


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 99, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4297 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 94):
Fil Asian and their YS-11s have delayed their ops start again, this time to 23rd of August.
Initial services are Manila-Tablas and Manila-Masbate.

Regards,
Loran

It´s a bit doubtful now whether this "venture" will ever leave he ground ...

With CAAP acting more stringent lately in regards of issuing operating permits they´ll have a hard time convincing CAAP that their operations are safe.
CAAP is under close watch by FAA and EASA. So, they act carefully in order not to jeopardize the recently granted partially lifting (PAL only for the time being) from EASA´s blacklist !



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5158 posts, RR: 43
Reply 100, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4291 times:

The Canadian Warplane Heritage, does passenger flights on a few of their museum fleet.

You can fly on a Beech18, B-25, etc. plus many more ... even a Lancaster. (YES a Lancaster!) The DC-3 and Canso are currently not flying, but due to be back flying by the Spring of 2014. It is located at YHM, about a 40 minute drive west of YYZ.

http://www.warplane.com/visit-cwhm/vintage-aircraft-flights.aspx



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