I voted for Lufthansa for the fact their service is amazing. I am surprised that COA is doing so well because in my opinion their business First product sucks in comparison to other airlines business class let alone the first class of most airlines. Lufthansa's new business class is much nicer than COA's business first IMO.
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3546 times:
Virgin Upper Class is superb, although people say it is a combi first/business class. COA is also a combi, not first class, so you can't really compare it to a full first class airline. However, IMX it is very good quality - better than business class. After all, they've won numerous awards for it so I think you're in a minority there! BA's business class is somewhat poor compared to EK and CO.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3688 posts, RR: 31 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3522 times:
BA's business class is somewhat poor compared to EK and CO
In what respect? I've flown neither CO or EK but have hear and seen their seat and basically (that is what J is mostly about) and the EK seat doesn't hold a candle to NCW.
I voted BA in the survey, admitedly it is the only airline I have flown in F (and only done it six times so not a fair comparison) but having seen pictures / read trip reports / family experience I have made a reasonable choice. How CO is leading that poll ahead of the likes of SQ, CX and BA is astonishing! New EK F suite is pretty high up there but due to limited routes gets an honourable mention in this
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Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3498 times:
"I have flown in F" - that's first class, not business class. I haven't flown BA first class, so I can't comment on that. All I can say is, compared to my biz class flights with EK and CO, BA ranks third. Seats and IFE are much of a muchness, but decent crews and good food improve the experience - something which IMX BA was lacking.
I actually found the EK seat to be very comfortable. So it's not lie flat, but I still managed to sleep - which is a rare occurence for me.
BTW I should have mentioned I'm talking about BA's non-lie-flat seats (haven't tried the newer ones), although the seat is only a part of the product.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3688 posts, RR: 31 Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3481 times:
Geoff, when I referred to BA F I was talking about the original poll again
New Club World flat seat is a great improvement on the cradle seat, although the 'fairground slide' was a little better for a day flights, more like an armchair.
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Zrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 2872 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3457 times:
Let's keep business class out of the discussion.
Here's my vote for best international F products. I have experienced these carriers, and none are bad, this is just the pecking order:
KLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 794 posts, RR: 24 Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3416 times:
I've flown C-class on Sabena and KLM, never first clas though.
It looks to me as if the first class product on EK's A-345 is unbeatable at the moment.
I would so much like to try this one out!!!
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3688 posts, RR: 31 Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3264 times:
We have Upper Class - which is the same price as British Airways business Class - Club World
Well not true. A friend was looking up flights to PHL and while BA F to PHL was £4400, VS UCS to JFK was £4200
I've never flown in the VS lavatory stools but I think despite all the VS marketing hype these pictures show it in the real world http://vsveil.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/
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BCal DC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 717 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
The fact that our 'business class' is FAR better than the British Airways 1st Class product, as well as a lot cheaper speaks for itself.
LOL - have you ever flown BA First? It is in a different league to the VS "Business" class product.... you should try it sometime.
From those pics, that VS cabin layout looks hideous.
Btw, ref. the article, I'm not sure how you can compare CO's domestic first product to BA's, CX, SQ's etc international F class - it just isn't the same.
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