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World's Worst Airport Terminal Transfer  
User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1966 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6531 times:

Two weeks back I have to transfer between Mumbai(BOM) Terminal 1A(Air India) to Terminal 2D (Delta). AI cannot check baggage thru final destination as they don't have an agreement in place. So I have to collect the checked baggage.

Shuttle was supposed to be every 30 minutes but showed up after 75 minutes. To my surprise there was a security check point for shuttle bus, they screened everything, which took another 30 minutes. Also a security guard boarded the shuttle bus.

This damn shuttle is nothing but a airside tour for 20 minutes, then it leaves the secure area, enters city drops you off in front of Terminal 2a. Delta is at the other end of terminal, so I have to walk all the way. It is close to a city block and side walk is not accessible every few hundred feed.

It was a 6hr layover, so I still have more than 4 hours left, but the gate guard said he will allow only two hours before departure. I spent two hours in visitors lounge.

There are other odd things about Mumbai, security screening is after immigration. Is that normal? Delta had their own final screening. Any one complains about TSA should go thru this. You will get a thorough frisking(probably kneading is the right word) and pat down. Odd part is they are local Delta employees, not security professionals. And uniformed security guards are obsessed with hand baggage tags?

Is there any other airport transfer worst than this?

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User currently offlineslinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

Ha ha ham, been there, done that, learned lesson aka never ever transfer at BOM from domestic to international or vice versa. Delhi used to be the same.

Mind you JFK T2 to anywhere else is terrible in a different way.


User currently offlinesierra3tango From Bahrain, joined Mar 2013, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5976 times:

Quoting DTW2HYD (Thread starter):

Do they still make you stand on a small wooden box while they frisk you at BOM?

Last time I went through BOM my electric toothbrush showed up on the scanner with (what looked like a long thin metal thread). My hand baggage was taken apart and the toothbrush must have been handled (switched or & off repeatedly) by maybe 10 security men, who eventually deemed it safe to fly. I chucked it on arrival at the other end

BOM is worth avoiding for O&D, transfer is unbelievable

Lagos is another one to avoid on transfer (dom / int). Same sort of 'service' as BOM but with the added risk of being kidnapped


User currently offlinedaviation From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5826 times:

I've had terrifically bad experiences at PHL and FRA, two airports I will try to avoid at all costs. Since I live in New York, I don't have to transfer at JFK (it's either my origination or destination), but I can imagine that it's a pretty bad experience to transfer there.

On the other hand, I've had good experiences at ATL, DTW, RDU, even ORD.


User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5716 times:

CDG and IST

If there is a hell on Earth, it's those two places.


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5628 times:

Quoting Fallap (Reply 4):
CDG and IST

If there is a hell on Earth, it's those two places.

Can't agree with that to be honest. IST - at least international to international- is pretty straightforward and it's a nice airport by the way.

CDG has tremendously changed. Not sure when you transferred, and 1-2 years ago I would have agreed with you. And I would still agree with you if you tell me you need to transfer between T1 and T2. However transferring between Skyteam now that they are all in 2E/F/G is pretty straightforward.
Schengen/Schengen Transfers are all under the same roof (2F) and not need to pass security, while Schengen to Nonschengen now has a dedicated tunnel for connecting guests with no security check (just passport), and the way back a dedicated tunnel with security check (mandatory in all European airports when arriving from a nonschengen destination anyway). Before all security checks and passport checks they also have installed monitors showing short connections called "ORANGE LINE". Guests of those flights can shortcut possible lines.
FInally, the terminals that AF/KL/DL use (2E and F) are pretty modern. It's really not what it used to be. They're still better airports out there, that's for sure, but having had a tour through the whole airport (I'm a travel agent and was invited to visit the airport and see the changes) I can say they turned the whole thing to a pretty good affair...


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8841 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5616 times:

Quoting DTW2HYD (Thread starter):

Two weeks back I have to transfer between Mumbai(BOM) Terminal 1A(Air India) to Terminal 2D (Delta). AI cannot check baggage thru final destination as they don't have an agreement in place. So I have to collect the checked baggage.

LOL, I saw the thread title and my Instant reaction was, "Oh, I'll write about Mumbai". Haven't done that transfer in about 15 years - looks like little has changed.



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

Quoting DTW2HYD (Thread starter):
There are other odd things about Mumbai, security screening is after immigration. Is that normal?

If I remember correctly (it has been about 14 months since I was last there), DEL is the same way.


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9643 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5583 times:

India International to Domestic and Domestic International connections can be a disaster like that. Same thing in SVO and AKL. I personally hate it when domestic and international terminals are on opposite sides of the airport.

If connecting International – Domestic in India, I think BLR is the best airport. One single nice clean terminal for all departures, although they still use bus gates for domestic.



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User currently onlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10428 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5512 times:

I'm guessing that the old ATH airport was pretty bad as OA was on one side of the airport and the rest of the carriers on the other side and there wasn't any sort of shuttle (that I could see)......you had to take a cab.


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User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

Quoting reifel (Reply 5):

30 min. Queue to enter the airport
45 min. Queue to check in
30 min. Queue through immigration

At IST


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

My worst experience was – only 2 weeks ago – transferring from CDG Terminal 2G to T1. You can’t be any further apart than this on any major airport, and of course no luggage check through possible. Had to take a bus and train, and involves some walking as well. FRA is heaven in comparison to this. From the airports I have been to only the old SVO or LED terminals (domestic to/from international) are further apart, but at least it was one bus ride.

Also transferring between the new and old SVO terminals is quite a pain. Did it once 2 years ago and was probably the longest walking distance I had in any airport.

Regards,
Loran



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User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 883 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

Sydney - they let you pay to get from one terminal to the other. At least they did a few years ago. I found that absolutely outrageous and got so angry, I am still angry today....


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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5430 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 8):
Same thing in SVO and AKL. I personally hate it when domestic and international terminals are on opposite sides of the airport.

I don't think AKL is that bad. It's not the most convenient thing, but it's far from BOM standards!


User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5313 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 12):

Having to pay to transfer betwen terminals at SYD (and quite a bit - five bucks?) is a scandal not seen anywhere else in the world that I'm aware of. I know there are worse things going on in the world of human affairs but it is genuinely insulting. I do not understand how it's possible. Puts an otherwise nice airport on the BOM-JFK-LOS-IST list (JFK mostly for 1h+ immigration queues).

Re immigration, ORD can be shocking, took the 0755 UA 747 "Poor Man's Concorde" LHR-ORD in Sep 2011 into ORD 1000, couldn't believe the chaos at immigration, 2h in line meant about 2,000 people missed their connections. What kind of business model is this for AA and UA, if all those domestic flights op with dozens of empty seats on each flight, and a scramble to find empty ones on later flights to accomodate stranded, jetlagged pax who were still in line? It's not as though immigration didn't know they were coming, flights are scheduled at least six months in advance, anyway they're all daily, 99% anyway so it's not like there's much (any) day-to-day variation. Rostering immigration officers is the easiest job in the world but one the USA - sorry - refuses to do adequately.

LHR is no peach for transit due to all the bussing between terminals and immigration can be pretty bad.



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User currently offlineroadrunner165 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 874 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5304 times:

Manila, Philippines. Terminals are not connected. No air side transfers. Jeepeny or taxi ride is required and not always reliable or safe at night.

I try to fly with Philippine Airlines so at least domestic and international flights leave from one terminal.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25338 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 14):
LHR is no peach for transit due to all the bussing between terminals and immigration can be pretty bad.

If you're only connecting between terminals at LHR, don't you avoid immigration (with the minor exception of connections to a UK domestic flight)? There's a security check but I've never had to clear immigration at LHR when connecting between international flights which must be 99% of connections.


User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5281 times:

Quoting roadrunner165 (Reply 15):
Manila, Philippines. Terminals are not connected. No air side transfers. Jeepeny or taxi ride is required and not always reliable or safe at night.

I try to fly with Philippine Airlines so at least domestic and international flights leave from one terminal.

Amen, I was going to mention Manila too.

There is a bus between terminals. It runs "sometimes" and "whenever it feels like it."


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5580 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5280 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 12):
Sydney - they let you pay to get from one terminal to the other. At least they did a few years ago. I found that absolutely outrageous and got so angry
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 14):
Having to pay to transfer betwen terminals at SYD (and quite a bit - five bucks?)

It's actually more than $5 now, $6.50 of the top of my head. BNE also makes you pay.

BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO PAY

If you are connecting to a domestic flight with QF (and I think VA as well) then as you come out of customs follow signs to domestic flight connections, you can check in at the international terminal, and you are dropped airside at the domestic terminal by a dedicated connecting bus service which is free.

If you are connecting to JQ or TT then you're on your own, but if you are on an LCC then I guess don't expect the "full service" treatment.

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 8):
AKL

While no airport in Aus/NZ provides a pleasant domestic-international connection experience, SYD and AKL are a piece of p*ss in comparison to PER.

PER is more like BOM described by the OP.

(BTW if you are going to connect between international and domestic the best - i.e. least bad - are MEL and ADL for Aus and CHC and WLG for NZ as the domestic and international terminals are part of the same building)

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 14):
LHR is no peach for transit due to all the bussing between terminals and immigration can be pretty bad.

While LHR will never be a pleasant airport to connect at, "all the bussing" is a huge improvement over the need to go landside and catch the Heathrow Express between the terminals. At least you avoid immigration, and if you are connecting International-UK you have a dedicated immigration point.



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User currently offlinejetblue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

Quoting roadrunner165 (Reply 15):

Manila, Philippines. Terminals are not connected. No air side transfers. Jeepeny or taxi ride is required and not always reliable or safe at night.

I try to fly with Philippine Airlines so at least domestic and international flights leave from one terminal.
Quoting copter808 (Reply 17):
Amen, I was going to mention Manila too.

There is a bus between terminals. It runs "sometimes" and "whenever it feels like it."

I agree, as much as I love MNL for having that special place in my heart, it's absolutely terrible when it comes to transfers, all four terminals are FAR apart.

Every time we fly to the Philippines, we always try to fly to CEB instead but MNL is always significantly cheaper unfortunately. When we fly to MNL, to/from the United States, we always try to stay a night or two (to rest, shop, etc) to avoid the risk of missing our connections considering the weather is always unpredictable there and the airport itself is not the best place to connect.

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User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5088 times:

Jeddah. A terrible to fly to/from anyways, but connecting domestic to international is sheer nightmare.

User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 956 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5053 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 11):
FRA is heaven in comparison to this

FRA is bad - the planes never seem to use any gates everyone has to get on a bus and tour the airport for 15 minutes to go through immigration and security only to get on another bus and take the tour back for 15 minutes to your plane.
At least at LHR they use gates so you can walk instead of waiting for everyone to get on a bus.
I think JFK can be a pain if you need to transfer between terminals and CDG as the employees there are very unfriendly.


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 786 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days ago) and read 5040 times:

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 19):

I agree, as much as I love MNL for having that special place in my heart, it's absolutely terrible when it comes to transfers, all four terminals are FAR apart.
Quoting copter808 (Reply 17):

Amen, I was going to mention Manila too.

There is a bus between terminals. It runs "sometimes" and "whenever it feels like it."
Quoting roadrunner165 (Reply 15):
Manila, Philippines. Terminals are not connected. No air side transfers. Jeepeny or taxi ride is required and not always reliable or safe at night.

Not to defend MNL here (as I have never connected here, and probably never will), but there are airside transfers...for PR/2P passengers.

Also, I pray they build that monorail.


User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5007 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 14):
Having to pay to transfer betwen terminals at SYD (and quite a bit - five bucks?) is a scandal not seen anywhere else in the world that I'm aware of.

Hmmm, I've never ever had to pay to transfer at SYD, at least not on a QF-QF transfer. The terminal-to-terminal bus is free, and has some fun views of the airport.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 18):
PER is more like BOM described by the OP.

Nope, sorry, not even close. I did a connection at PER once and it wasn't the easiest, but compared to BOM it felt like Munich.


User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4955 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 22):
Not to defend MNL here (as I have never connected here, and probably never will), but there are airside transfers...for PR/2P passengers.

I've never seen anything to indicate airside transfers. If the keep it a big secret, then they might as well not have it! The inter-terminal bus at the curb is marked by signs--it just doesn't run very regularly.


25 bobnwa : Have to agree with you there, LHR is bad for connections
26 airevents : I recently made my way through Jakarta a couple of times. Getting from one terminal to another is not exactly a total pain but also not a breeze. CGK
27 Post contains links Akiestar : It's on the PR website. http://www.philippineairlines.com/pr..._service/free_transfer_service.jsp Well, it's not showing up now, but I have seen tarp
28 n729pa : Correct......(I will find out Sunday morning! when I transfer from QF LHR-SYD to QF SYD-MEL) .... QF website says Quote " Transferring from T1 (Inter
29 reifel : I'm happy to believe you, but this thread is about transferring. And at least international to international was always a breeze... Might be differen
30 Post contains images reifel : I connected international to international here, and actually my expectations were so low that I was pleasantly surprised That said, it's really bori
31 copter808 : Seems to be working ok now. Still, it's only of limited use since it's only for PR and code shares.
32 747m8te : Exactly! Actually I don't find the transit in BNE or SYD bad at all like people make out, its free and easy, like you say, if its connecting either t
33 SIA747Megatop : I do such connections at BOM at least 5-6 times a year and it's really not that bad though I don't use the shuttle because it's a pain. I prefer to sp
34 sw733 : I find LAX to be a breeze. I always walk it, unless my connection is tight. The weather is usually nice enough and the walk is nice before and/or aft
35 sierra3tango : DAR isn't the best place to transfer INT to DOM either (going ZNB), its a taxi (or a very long walk) landside down a public dual carriageway road The
36 Post contains images SIA747Megatop : If i was greeted to that I would go out of may to travel through that airport.
37 dtwlax : Yes... why do you find it odd? That is when they record you are leaving the country. Here in USA, it is usually done at the check-in counters where t
38 SIA747Megatop : This is a requirement for US bound flights from most international airports. I fly through BOM many times a year and have never had this happen to me
39 DTW2HYD : US has no exit system either. I believe there is no more paper I-94 since April, 2013. My naive assumption was to put Govt. immigration officials (no
40 jetsetter629 : Speaking of DAR, I will be arriving there on an SA flight and connecting to ZNZ on Precision Air - do they operate out of the domestic terminal or is
41 777ER : Worst I've had so far was last month in IAH and even worse was EWR. Arrived from DEN on UA in IAH and took a little while till I worked out where I ha
42 aloges : Let me guess, you tend to arrive on UA and connect to LH? They have recently opened a new pier at FRA, so things should be better now.
43 thaiflyer : It all depends which time you arrive. In the morning and evening it is a madhouse at the transfer security points. They changed the layout a little b
44 sierra3tango : The Domestic terminal takes all sorts of smaller aircraft. Looking at it most probably was the old terminal 30/40/50 years ago. The plenty of room on
45 MIAspotter : Not The worst, but certainly a very clumsy one. Barcelona El Prat. Going from the new T1 to the old T2 (where the train station is) is certainly a pai
46 Coal : LAX and CGK. We all know LAX is hell. I've transited there a few times from Asia to Miami and every time it's a pain in the ass. You basically have to
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