sejtam From Singapore, joined Sep 2011, 70 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9607 times:
For the second time, i have lost a TSA-compatible lock on one of my duffels whle travelling SFO-SIN.
The bag was properly locked, and arrived sans lock (but afaict all contents still there and intact).
Of course I cannot be sure whether this happened in SFO or KIX (last time SFO or NRT), but it is
a bit disturbing. There was no note that they inspected my bag inside, and the lock was simply missing. They could have just forgotten to re-lock the bag, but I would like to avoid having to purchase a pair of locks frequently.
cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6811 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9456 times:
Yes two weeks ago experienced the same thing out of LAX. No note and lock missing. Contents all there though. Having said that, it is the first time it has happened to me. I normally get a note and the lock is there.
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9416 times:
While working the ramp I've seen 'many' locks on the bag cart after all the bags have been loaded on the plane. I can only assume that when TSA opened the bags to inspect them, they didn't lock them properly and the locks fell off while on the cart. So, they didn't steal them. Hope this helps put your mind at ease.
Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
skywaymanaz From United States of America, joined May 2012, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8727 times:
TSA either forgot to put the inspection note in the bag or the screener deliberately didn't put in since they won't give out their names when you ask them at the checkpoint (we are required to give them our names). Either way they probably were to lazy to relock it correctly. I'd think differently if you had items missing but since you don't that probably is the correct answer. As villified as TSA is, and rightly so in many cases, never assume malice for what can easily be explained by incompetence.
yeginleduc From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8629 times:
Keep in mind that TSA locks are a US program. If security and/or customs wants to go through your bag in other countries, they do not have 'standard' TSA keys like they do in the USA. I know here in Canada, we use bolt cutters on any type of lock that we see when customs needs to go into the bags.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4628 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8091 times:
Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 2): While working the ramp I've seen 'many' locks on the bag cart after all the bags have been loaded on the plane. I can only assume that when TSA opened the bags to inspect them, they didn't lock them properly and the locks fell off while on the cart. So, they didn't steal them. Hope this helps put your mind at ease.
I connected through SEA's FIS (AS YYJ-SEA / UA SEA-IAD) and had my checked bags delivered pre-TSA completely unzipped. Btw, YYJ doesn't have USA preclearance.
How nothing fell out on the baggage belt is a mystery to me. I don't think locks would have helped.
b707100 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7591 times:
I like to use heavy duty zip ties. Even though they aren't locks, they do secure the bags well. If TSA wants in, they can find the knife to cut it. They sure should have plenty of them around. As to anyone else that wants in, well...go for it. LOL Zip ties are also great at hotels when not in the room. Same thing, you'll know if someone has been in or not. Just don't keep the spares with the luggage.
YLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 959 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6510 times:
ooh please, those locks are a joke. You own 3x Samsonite luggage and have my keys gone missing multiple times. When that happens, I simply call up their CS hotline, tell them the little code engraved next to the key hole and a new sets of keys will be available for me to be picked up within 24 hrs in any Samsonite outlets in town, and it cost merely HKD$65/pair (approx USD 8), NO RECEIPT, NO ID, NO PROOF needed at all!
Hong Kong is not China. Not better or worse, just different.
AirCanada787 From Canada, joined Nov 2010, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6099 times:
Last June I was travelling with friends SFO-YYZ and when we arrived in YYZ one of my friends had a lock on his suitcase. When he had left it at the bag drop in SFO it didn't have a lock at all.... So mix ups clearly do happen.
The mind, like a parachute, functions only when open.
XT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3618 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5497 times:
Quoting YLWbased (Reply 16): ooh please, those locks are a joke. You own 3x Samsonite luggage and have my keys gone missing multiple times.
unless they have changed, you can open them with simple tools. The tweezers from a swiss army knife unlock them only slightly slower than the correct key. Mind you this is with exactly 0 locksmith or lockpicking training.
Home Depot, Lowes, etc. You can by them in packages of 100 for a few dollars
Some hints, remember to carry with you a small nail clipper to cut off the tie wrap, and don’t lock the nail clipper in the luggage, keep it in a side pocket along with some spare tie wraps, also leave a loop about 1” in diameter so you can fit the cutting edge of the nail clipper inside of the loop, it usually takes 2 separate cuts to go through the tie wrap.
This is what I have been doing since the TSA rules about opening luggage for inspection went into effect, I can tell immediately if the TSA opened my luggage for inspection because the tie wrap will be missing or replaced with another and they usually pull the tie wrap tight.
If I find my luggage has been opened, right in the luggage area I will open my luggage to make sure there was nothing stolen or damaged, you have a better chance of a claim if you spot anything missing or damaged before you leave the terminal.
On a recent trip, DFW/ATL/BSB, i had 2 large duffel bags inspected by them (TSA), with a note left inside of each bag. One of the bags i had 6 sun glasses clip ons, which went missing.. My bags had TSA approved locks. Those which can be opened by any TSA agent with that "special" key they have.
I can tell you FOR A FACT that thousands of others have experienced this!!!
The average passenger has NO idea how many locks are broken off during normal handling. I used to say that one could send their kid(s) through college by just collecting the lock parts on the ramp and selling them as scrap!
Ask yourself why anyone would want to "steal" your lock.
A much better way to secure your zipper locks is with small wire ties. I have been using this for years and have never had a problem. It's nearly as secure as a lock and much less likely to get caught on anything during handling. TSA or their counterpart should have no trouble opening them with a knife/nail clippers/whatever. My "key" is a nail clipper that I carry on my carry-on bag.
You may get some questions about why you have a bunch of wire ties in your carry-on, but I have never really had a problem with it. Twice I was told that they were a "security risk" because I could use them to "bind" someone. My question was; "And what is that "someone" going to be doing while I'm stringing them together to make a them long enough to bind them?"
: Yes, and if you buy them in bulk of 1000 or so, they will cost about one cent each. To prevent the bag from opening I use a bag strap. If you can fin
: Not just in the US. Working here in Australia as a ramp handler. We find multiple locks every single day. They are not strong, and really do not prot
: I had trouble with a cheap lock on my locker at work. Got the bolt cutters, but the lock broke before I could cut it!!
: Two days after the original post my TSA approved lock disappeared LAX-LHR. I'm switching to cable ties as soon as I resolve the problem of how to take
: You should have no trouble with the small nipper type, I've traveled hundreds of thousand miles with one and never had a problem. I had another one--