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No Alcohol Flights?  
User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8998 times:

Allegedly, the Aeroflot flight between Moscow and Havana that they thought would have NSA leaker Snowden on it was a 'no alcohol' flight. Excluding flights operating to/from and through certain Islamic countries, very short flights or military or youth charters, are their mainline flights that will temporarily suspend or normally not have alcoholic beverage service? If they do so, what are the reasons or conditions for doing so?

[Edited 2013-06-25 20:55:06]

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 1, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8793 times:

I thought the reason was too many drunks to deal with, such as the BKK flight.


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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5428 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8761 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
are their mainline flights that will temporarily suspend or normally not have alcoholic beverage service? If they do so, what are the reasons or conditions for doing so?

US Airways suspended alcohol service for flights to and from ABQ, in response to New Mexico revoking their liquor license because someone who got off a US flight from PHX, went to the bar and got trashed, then killed someone on his drive home.



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5572 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8658 times:

I don't know if they still do it, but a couple of years ago Aer Lingus banned alcohol on flights to Riga. Apparently it was due to various former Soviet Union republic residents getting drunk and starting fights with each other. They even checked hand-baggage prior to boarding.

User currently onlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8603 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 2):

I flew that leg 4-5 years ago and was like WTF? Not that I wanted a drink at that particular hour, but the FA announcement that there would be no alcohol sales at all on this segment raised my eyebrow and I had no idea why. Thx for explaining that. Why would a flight originating in PHX need a NM license, I can understand needing a license taking off from ABQ. In fact, does an airline need a license to serve from every state it flys to? Or flys over? I would think that authority to serve booze would be Federal, as in FAA, to regulate.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5428 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8566 times:

Quoting timpdx (Reply 4):
Why would a flight originating in PHX need a NM license, I can understand needing a license taking off from ABQ. In fact, does an airline need a license to serve from every state it flys to? Or flys over? I would think that authority to serve booze would be Federal, as in FAA, to regulate.

The theory is that you need a liquor license to serve passengers on the ground in whatever state you're in (provided the flight is interstate, and not intrastate).

Being such a short flight, I'm willing to bet management found it easier to just remove the liquor carts and not deal with any potential legal backlash than to make a few bucks giving the finger to NM.

It is interesting to note that only mainline flights were affected. The PHX-ABQ runs made by Mesa Airlines (DBA US Airways Express) were still able to serve booze.


The FAA could absolutely step in and claim exclusive jurisdiction, but they don't.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8467 times:

Does Qatar Airways serve alcoholic drinks on their long haul flights?

I would really like to know if QR bans champagne, wine and liquors on their long haul.



    



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User currently offlineflyboy_se From Qatar, joined Feb 2000, 780 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8442 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):
Does Qatar Airways serve alcoholic drinks on their long haul flights?

I would really like to know if QR bans champagne, wine and liquors on their long haul.

They do serve alcohol on all their flights. Only exception that i know is flights to and from Saudi Arabia.
Champagne is also available in economy class on flights to and from Europe  



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 8, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8398 times:

Quoting flyboy_se (Reply 7):
They do serve alcohol on all their flights. Only exception that i know is flights to and from Saudi Arabia.
Champagne is also available in economy class on flights to and from Europe

Thank you for your answer.

I was asking this as if they banned alcohol there is no way I would ever accept to go on the first inaugural A350 commercial flight. QR will be the first carrier to fly the A350 with passengers on board.

I can't imagine a inaugural flight of a new aircraft type - will most probably be long haul - without champagne, wine and liquors being served on board.

I am not a drunk but partying in the sky without at least a few drinks is impossible.

  



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8362 times:

Quoting flyboy_se (Reply 7):
Only exception that i know is flights to and from Saudi Arabia.

The famous onboard lounge of the EK 380s turn into a cafe on the JED runs....  


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8345 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 9):
The famous onboard lounge of the EK 380s turn into a cafe on the JED runs....

For Business Class pax only I suppose...

 



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24630 posts, RR: 86
Reply 11, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8339 times:
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Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 5):
The theory is that you need a liquor license to serve passengers on the ground in whatever state you're in (provided the flight is interstate, and not intrastate).

Being such a short flight, I'm willing to bet management found it easier to just remove the liquor carts and not deal with any potential legal backlash than to make a few bucks giving the finger to NM.

I always thought it had to do with not serving alcohol in New Mexico airspace without the NM license, but I could be wrong.

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 5):
It is interesting to note that only mainline flights were affected. The PHX-ABQ runs made by Mesa Airlines (DBA US Airways Express) were still able to serve booze.

Mesa had its own NM license?

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User currently offlinesassiciai From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2013, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8119 times:

I did have a couple of stop-overs at Doha airport last year on Qatar flights, and can tell that in the public areas, there is no alcohol available, perhaps in the business lounges there is. And I really wanted a cold beer!

And this despite the shedloads of duty-free alcohol of all sorts available for "export only"

No problem on the Qatar Airlines flights, beer/wine/spirits are served


User currently offlineSYDAIRPORTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8031 times:

booze is a huge revenue raiser for LCC's.

No way they would stop serving & LCC's seem to be taking over the world.


User currently offlineSIA747Megatop From Singapore, joined Apr 2012, 247 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7967 times:

No alcohol available on all Indian domestic flights by law.


Would you like fries with that? I didn't think so.
User currently offlinecobra27 From Slovenia, joined May 2001, 1003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7868 times:

Quoting SIA747Megatop (Reply 14):
No alcohol available on all Indian domestic flights by law.

What man? Are drunk passenger more dangerozus than normal christian loving people?


User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7857 times:

Quoting sassiciai (Reply 12):
I did have a couple of stop-overs at Doha airport last year on Qatar flights

This is where DXB scores. A few of pubs and lounges. Heineken and Jack Daniels have lounges in the new concourse A while good old Irish Pub sits in Concourse C.

Quoting SIA747Megatop (Reply 14):
No alcohol available on all Indian domestic flights by law.

Even foreign carriers who serve alcohol during boarding in premium classes are not permitted that service on Indian tarmacs. I find this funny because one is able to get alcohol in the lounges as well as within the international departures premise...


User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2152 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7832 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):

Does Qatar Airways serve alcoholic drinks on their long haul flights?

I would really like to know if QR bans champagne, wine and liquors on their long haul.

Not only do they serve alcohol they actually have one of the best wine cellars in the world. Some very very impressive wines that at wine shops cost more than USD 100.

Not sure though whether this efforts is a waste on all those pax who only care about "alcohol" and don't mind whether it's cleaning alcohol or Veuve Clicquot they are drinking as long as they lose their senses (think: Russians, Northern/Northwestern Europeans).


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4055 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7775 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
Thank you for your answer.

I was asking this as if they banned alcohol there is no way I would ever accept to go on the first inaugural A350 commercial flight. QR will be the first carrier to fly the A350 with passengers on board.

I can't imagine a inaugural flight of a new aircraft type - will most probably be long haul - without champagne, wine and liquors being served on board.

I am not a drunk but partying in the sky without at least a few drinks is impossible.

A few drunks in the sky, maybe a flute of champagne before hand and whiskey in the jello. I know I have been on flights where a person wanted a beer, the brand fails me, but the turbulence was too bad and he got down right violent with the crew. When we landed in HNL he was arrested. So we have to give our babies a bottle or can of near beer as I like to call American beer, to pacify the masses would be OK with me.



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User currently offline9w748capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7432 times:

Quoting cobra27 (Reply 15):
What man? Are drunk passenger more dangerozus than normal christian loving people?

Huh? You know India isn't a christian country right? Curious how religions got into this.


User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5065 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6952 times:

Back in the 1970s, Hughes Airwest didn't serve alcohol on Sunday morning flights in some states, because state laws prohibited sales of alcohol before noon.

Both Idaho and Utah and such laws, so if you were flying between SLC and BOI or TWF on a Sunday, you couldn't get a drink before noon.


User currently offlinetwincessna340a From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6391 times:

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 19):

I'm sure it was a poor attempt at sarcasm, albeit in broken English...


User currently offlinerampbro From Canada, joined Nov 2012, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6334 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 20):
Utah

On that subject, didn't Utah have some kind of law requiring alcohol to be poured behind a curtain - the 'zion curtain'? If so, did airlines have to install curtains in the galley, or use the aisle curtain to serve drinks ex-SLC?


User currently offlinewunala From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 949 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5996 times:

Quoting SYDAIRPORTS (Reply 13):
booze is a huge revenue raiser for LCC's.

No way they would stop serving & LCC's seem to be taking over the world.

Jetstar doesn't serve alcohol on NSW intra-state flights as it requires a special NSW licence. The only flight affected is Sydney to Byron/Ballina. Not sure if Virgin serves or not.


User currently offlinethaiflyer From Thailand, joined Oct 2007, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5750 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 2):

I thought the reason was too many drunks to deal with, such as the BKK flight.

As this is the only flight into BKK which is dry it says unfortunately a lot about the equality of the (Russian) tourist which are going to Thailand.


25 IB6400 : Aeroméxico does not serve alcohol on any of its flights before noon.
26 CanadianNorth : Up here Air North 307, Whitehorse-Dawson-Old Crow does not serve alcohol, due to Old Crow being a dry community. The return flight, Air North 308 Old
27 slider : As I understand it, each operator has to have its own liquor license. It's dependent upon tax code but also distribution. So even every regional/expr
28 sassiciai : I dont really understand. When is "noon" after I left Manila at 12am, transited Hong Kong with a 3 hours wait for my onward flight, and now I'm on my
29 RJA321 : Wouldn't they first use their new A350 on short hops (i.e. to DXB) before commencing long haul flights?
30 hohd : Many countries ban alcohol for in country flights, including many in Africa and Asia, even in Thailand. For India it is due to the passengers becoming
31 DocLightning : Noon at the aircraft's current location, noon at the departure city, or noon at the arrival city? Somewhat off-topic, but in a lot of states alcohol
32 IB6400 : Alcohol is loaded by caterers on flights leaving after 12:00.
33 nclmedic : Royal Brunei is a completely dry airline, but you can bring your own, at least in J. I'm not 100% but I'd bet anything Saudi Arabian is a no alcohol a
34 EIDL : Whereas in Ireland, often an Aer Lingus plane was the only place you could get alcohol early on a Sunday or during "holy hour" (actually two hours as
35 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I will go for that too. I just want to make sure I secure a seat on on the first passenger flight. I will buy F if the flight goes from Doha to Dubai
36 slcdeltarumd11 : I think there are tons of places where sunday morning cities have restricted sales or free booze. DFW and PHL come to mind. I think alot of states bar
37 Viscount724 : It's not just BKK and HAV. Following from Aeroflot website re Y class service. The "no alcohol" restriction on those routes doesn't seem to apply in
38 Post contains links CO777DAL : You can drink as much as you want in OR Premium Terminal. You can even pour your drinks, as much as you want. There is self serve as well as a full b
39 9w748capt : Not at all surprised - the middle eastern airlines are all too happy to serve alcohol to non-muslim foreigners knowing that they're getting their mon
40 jagflyer : Why do a state's rules cover the serving of alcohol onboard an aircraft registered in another state? For example, a KLM aircraft flying into the US ca
41 Fallap : No alcohol on youth-flights? Someone call Geneva! Apart from that, I believe PIA is a dry airline last time I checked.
42 sierra3tango : You're right, as are Kuwaiti, Iranian, Pakistani airlines to name a few. Not sure about Yemenia can't remember. Had one of my worst hangovers ever in
43 thaiflyer : Thailand does not ban alcohol in domestic flights but the airlines ( TG ) do it out of economic reasons.
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