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Ten Urban Legends About Flying Squashed  
User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

Courtesy smartertravel.com ten urban legends about flying squashed. http://www.smartertravel.com/photo-g...3%3A%3A7597281%3A%3A15326563%3A%3A

As it relates to the first legend I suppose I can be a little less concerned about looking skyward for potential foreign projectiles hitting me during my daily walks.


Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7631 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7294 times:
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A little predictable and dry really.


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User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2049 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7100 times:

"The air inside the cabin is pressurized fresh air that has been filtered to remove more than 99 percent of bacteria and viruses."

O RLY?

As far as I know, outdoor air is already practically sterile (if you do not count pollen).

I really hate that kind of "journalism" that regurgitates what one can find with 10 seconds of googling. Another 20 seconds would have shown that bleed air isn't filtered.


David



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7631 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7073 times:
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Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 2):
I really hate that kind of "journalism" that regurgitates what one can find with 10 seconds of googling. Another 20 seconds would have shown that bleed air isn't filtered.

Agreed. It's lazy recycling of easily-available information. Try reading the Daily Mail - day in, day out they post some youtube or other source video as 'news' with some comment about it being a 'heart-stopping' or 'breath-taking' moment. Totally ridiculous, and this item is little better.



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3767 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7017 times:

What on earth is this cockpit in that link?



Soren   



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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6686 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 4):

seven-stupid-seven.

filler
filler



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User currently offlinetribird1011 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6593 times:

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 5):
seven-stupid-seven.

nope... 4 throttles...

must be the Airbus AB707    

and the guy in the right seat can't have more than 250 hours...  eyepopping 

[Edited 2013-06-29 09:58:11]

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6532 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 2):
"The air inside the cabin is pressurized fresh air that has been filtered to remove more than 99 percent of bacteria and viruses."

O RLY?

As far as I know, outdoor air is already practically sterile (if you do not count pollen).

I really hate that kind of "journalism" that regurgitates what one can find with 10 seconds of googling. Another 20 seconds would have shown that bleed air isn't filtered.

Well, they're actually on to something, they just didn't take the time to explain it (or learn it?) properly.
The air is partially recirculated, and this recirc air IS FILTERED to HEPA standard.
So it's valid information, just not presented correctly.

And, bleed air on some airplanes is sorta filtered in the moisture separator, though most airplanes don't have the same arrangement as the 737NG.


User currently offlinecornutt From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 338 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6457 times:

Looks like some kind of mockup to me. That overhead looks particularly bogus... red lights scattered about, and nothing is labeled. I wonder if it was something created for a movie set.

User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6374 times:

Quoting tribird1011 (Reply 6):
must be the Airbus AB707

Maybe the Airbus AB707 simulator? Same cockpit as is shown in a later picture.

The movie mockup may be the best explanation.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7276 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6131 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 4):

I thought it was a bad mock up of a C-130 cockpit...

The brace position conspiracy one really makes me the most mad... simple physics suggests that it's better to be smooshed into the seat in front of you rather than slam into it from a normal sitting position. What are people thinking?



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5924 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10):

I've always pondered if the brace position was better. It is a awkward position for the neck to be in. In my mind leaning ones titled head into the seat in front of you could do more harm than good. I can see it as a neck fracture waiting to happen.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7276 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5834 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 11):
I've always pondered if the brace position was better. It is a awkward position for the neck to be in. In my mind leaning ones titled head into the seat in front of you could do more harm than good. I can see it as a neck fracture waiting to happen.

What is the alternative then? Sure the neck is at an awkward angle, but if you sit normally, the crash will instantly slam it forward into that awkward position which I think we can agree would be much worse. Would you rather be shoved or punched? It's the same principle. I'd prefer if airlines had shoulder straps but I know that is probably unpractical.



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18704 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5514 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 1):
"The air inside the cabin is pressurized fresh air that has been filtered to remove more than 99 percent of bacteria and viruses."

No it isn't. It's about 50% recirc'ed air. And that is filtered. The fresh air should also be filtered to remove any particulate that might have gotten in there from the engines or (in the 787's case) the PACs.

Actually, there are bacteria at that altitude. They generally aren't pathogenic (disease-causing) but they're up there. I don't know how well they'd survive a turbocompressor, though. That kind of heat shock should kill them, I'd imagine.


User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4655 times:

There is evidence that Blue Ice is not a myth.

Long Island, 2012
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/09/...caused-holes-in-long-island-roofs/

Chino, CA 2006
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_frien...0/0,4675,AircraftToiletIce,00.html

The FAA at times denies it, like the article says, but the real experts of Discovery Channel confirmed this myth.
http://mythbustersresults.com/blue-ice

One interesting side topic from the Long Island article is a lav photo that show a changing table, but at first glance it look a like it is sanctioned for use for the Mile High club.



135 hrs PIC (mostly PA-28) - not current. Landings at MDW, PIA, JAN.
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3767 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 14):
sanctioned for use for the Mile High club


Soren   



All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2405 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 12):
What is the alternative then?

As it relates to possible neck injury when compared to the brace position I personally would like to see the same kind of seat belts we have in automobiles which strap diagonally across the torso in lieu of the current lap belt.

I think a flying pax would fare better if they stayed with their seat. I realize in a rare instance the seat could break free I see it as the lesser of two evils.



Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10):
I thought it was a bad mock up of a C-130 cockpit...

That was my thought as well.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10):
The brace position conspiracy one really makes me the most mad... simple physics suggests that it's better to be smooshed into the seat in front of you rather than slam into it from a normal sitting position. What are people thinking?

Why would the average passenger want to concern themselves with physics? Ignorance is more fun!

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 16):
As it relates to possible neck injury when compared to the brace position I personally would like to see the same kind of seat belts we have in automobiles which strap diagonally across the torso in lieu of the current lap belt.

This would do a better job of restraining the passenger, but likely result in far more neck injuries.


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