PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2010 posts, RR: 23 Posted (10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12968 times:
Just saw this come across my Facebook feed...
"Flight SQ317, an Airbus A380 operating from London to Singapore, diverted to Baku in Azerbaijan on 6 January 2014 as a result of a cabin depressurisation. Oxygen masks were deployed and the aircraft landed uneventfully at Baku airport at 01:03 (local time). There were no injuries to the 467 passengers and 27 crew on board.
We are seeking clearance from local authorities to transfer affected customers to a hotel until a replacement aircraft arrives from Singapore."
You can look up SIA's Facebook for a post on this incident. Apparently there is plenty of disgruntlement from the passengers as they are not able to be moved to hotels because of strict visa issues and are spending their time in the airport which has very basic facilities.
Quote "being a passenger on this flight, that it is Facebook that I found this information out. There is very little information given to us here stuck at the airport, with only dinner given to us last night, no breakfast, but lunch will be provided (and there are no food places here at Azerbaijan Airport). Cold steel benches to sleep on, & the baby carry-on prams did not get taken off the plane (I have a 17month old - difficult!!). We cannot get into any hotels as the passengers do not have Visa's for this country. They also forgot to mention that we had to fly another 3hrs after the oxygen masks dropped/cabin depressurised. Thankfully the airport has free wifi, but most of us are trying to save what little battery power we have left. BUT I am thankful to still be here, and definitely thankful that a different plane is coming to pick us up (in another 4.5hrs, leaving in 6.5hrs), as it is pretty clear to us passengers that the cabin door responsible for the depressurisation was D
EFINITELY NOT going to get miraculously fixed whilst here in a non-Singapore airlines airport!! We are all a little hesitant about getting on our next legs of our journeys, just hope the worst is over...."
I wonder if there were other better diversion options? Or was this emergency so critical that SIA was forced into an immediate descent into the nearest airport. Interesting......
747megatop From United States of America, joined May 2007, 716 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 10915 times:
Quoting oly720man (Reply 7): Possibly a door seal issue, from that fount of knowledge the Daily Mail
What caused the plan to drop though? Or was the plane dropping actually the pilots doing a rapid descent to reach a safe altitude bacause of the depressurization? To me it seems like the pilots were reacting to the depressurization by diving to a safe altitude and the passenger Nathan Phelps probably interpreted that as an incontrolled descent.
Nathan Phelps, an electrical supervisor from south Wales who was on the flight, told the BBC the plane was cruising at around 38,000 feet when it suddenly began to drop.
"I literally thought we were all going to die. There was no warning, the plane just went into a deep descent, the masks dropped and you automatically thought we were going to crash. There was no other rational thought really. You couldn't really look at it optimistically because you had never experienced anything like that before."
shanxz From Singapore, joined Apr 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10388 times:
Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2): I wonder if there were other better diversion options? Or was this emergency so critical that SIA was forced into an immediate descent into the nearest airport. Interesting......
Why not DXB? Just the same distance as Baku it seems. It's an SQ station and much better equipped.
Airlines are in the service business, not transport. Brand matters...
flyenthu From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8843 times:
"But he added that 'the door was inspected by engineers on the ground in London with no findings, and the aircraft was cleared for continued operation.'"
The above quote is from the BBC link. Did the engineers figure out what caused the noise in the previous flight? With such a vital part as the cabin door, I find it odd that the plane was given clear for the return trip without getting into the bottom of the incident. Makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes, no?
thenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2642 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8766 times:
Dont know if it was the pilots or dispatch who made the call to land in GYD, but if it was dispatch, well it was evidently a bad call on their part.
Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2): We cannot get into any hotels as the passengers do not have Visa's
Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2): with only dinner given to us last night, no breakfast
It's one thing if the pilots decided to land at the nearest suitable airport due to a life or death situation, and its an entirely different thing if they flew 3 hours to get there after the oxygen masks dropped, confirming more or less that the depressurization became a non issue once the plane got down to 10000ft.
As was mentioned above, seems to me DXB would have been a better option.
[Edited 2014-01-06 16:27:05]
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
peterinlisbon From Portugal, joined Jan 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8713 times:
When something like a depressurisation occurs, the pilots first have to:
1. put their oxygen masks on (at 38,000 ft the pilots would pass out within 18 seconds).
2. descend as quickly as possible to 10,000 ft
3. communicate with air traffic control to avoid a collision as they descend
4. find the nearest airport with wifi to land at so that the passengers can post their photos on twitter
Explaining the situation to passengers can only come after these steps have been taken and, obviously, the pilots have to try to figure out exactly what has happened and what they are going to do about it before they make any announcement so I guess that's why there was a delay of 15 minutes before there was any communication.
I guess an emergency descent has to be pretty scary but as soon as you lose pressure you want to get away from 38,000ft as quickly as possible because people will lose consiousness very quickly if their masks are not used properly and there is not enough oxygen for more than 10 minutes.
Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2):
We cannot get into any hotels as the passengers do not have Visa's
If there's any truth whatsoever in the 3 hrs thing, could they not have gone to a much larger city in, for example, Turkey?? Is Ankara within a couple of hours of Baku? I would imagine you'd be getting much better support there with things like discretionary visas and so on. Where would they have roughly been when they experienced the problem, given that it's claimed they were up to three hours flying time away from Baku en route to Singapore from London?
For some reason though I'm just not altogether happy to believe three hours as a figure in this context.
Edit: I'm guessing they were over Russia, so maybe Azerbaijan seemed a better option.
[Edited 2014-01-06 18:40:48]
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: Actually, Baku has a lot of hotel rooms, just that they're all luxury brands so SQ may have to pay up if that's what they decide to do. J2 tends to d
: I know this is too early to speculate, but SIA will have to answer important safety questions. 1. Why was the door incident in the SIN-LHR not adequat
: Must have been some nice views out the windows cruising along at 10,000ft! What does this photograph depict? I see its a door, but what is sticking o
: Just as all of the other airliners out there which have been certified to fly passengers.
: It is the door seal and (by the look of it) the attachment fitting this pic gives a better look photo courtesy of Airline Hub Buzz https://www.facebo
: All, As of about 90 minutes ago, aircraft is parked on a taxiway parallel to the runway and to me looked like there were no faults, but I didn't get a
: Oh, heavens no. God forbid they run out of battery. What a excruciating and torturous experience that would be. How would they be able to bitch and m
: I bet those masks being deployed freaked a lot of passengers out!
: Singapore Airlines to refund passengers stranded in Azerbaijan: http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking...engers-stranded-azerbaijan-2014010
: That's because according to one of the usual, sensationalised reports, one 17 year old thought "I'm going to die"... Might as well film yourself in y
: A replacement door will be fitted to the plane in Baku before it returns to Singapore for more inspections. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...ay-