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SQ317 (A380) Diverts To Baku - Depressurization  
User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2010 posts, RR: 23
Posted (10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12968 times:
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Just saw this come across my Facebook feed...

"Flight SQ317, an Airbus A380 operating from London to Singapore, diverted to Baku in Azerbaijan on 6 January 2014 as a result of a cabin depressurisation. Oxygen masks were deployed and the aircraft landed uneventfully at Baku airport at 01:03 (local time). There were no injuries to the 467 passengers and 27 crew on board.

We are seeking clearance from local authorities to transfer affected customers to a hotel until a replacement aircraft arrives from Singapore."

[Edited 2014-01-05 18:59:33]


It's been swell, but the swelling has gone down.
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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12723 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12026 times:

A passenger made this picture:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdRyuLACIAA2nA1.jpg:large

http://twitter.com/AviationSafety/status/420106072934727682

Quoting PA110 (Thread starter):
There were no injuries to the 467 passengers and 27 crew on board.

The aircraft has 471 seats, that's a load factor of 99%.



Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.
User currently offlineGneissGuy From Singapore, joined Jul 2006, 200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11964 times:

INGAPORE: A Singapore Airlines plane flying from London to Singapore made an emergency landing in Azerbaijan on Monday.

There were no injuries to the 467 passengers and 27 crew members on board SQ317, an Airbus A380.

According to a post on the Singapore Airlines Facebook page, the flight was diverted due to depressurisation, and oxygen masks were deployed.

The statement said the aircraft landed "uneventfully" at Baku Airport at 1.03am, local time.

Singapore Airlines said it is seeking clearance from local authorities to transfer affected customers to a hotel until a replacement aircraft arrives from Singapore.

source: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...apore/sia-flight-makes/944196.html

You can look up SIA's Facebook for a post on this incident. Apparently there is plenty of disgruntlement from the passengers as they are not able to be moved to hotels because of strict visa issues and are spending their time in the airport which has very basic facilities.

Quote "being a passenger on this flight, that it is Facebook that I found this information out. There is very little information given to us here stuck at the airport, with only dinner given to us last night, no breakfast, but lunch will be provided (and there are no food places here at Azerbaijan Airport). Cold steel benches to sleep on, & the baby carry-on prams did not get taken off the plane (I have a 17month old - difficult!!). We cannot get into any hotels as the passengers do not have Visa's for this country. They also forgot to mention that we had to fly another 3hrs after the oxygen masks dropped/cabin depressurised. Thankfully the airport has free wifi, but most of us are trying to save what little battery power we have left. BUT I am thankful to still be here, and definitely thankful that a different plane is coming to pick us up (in another 4.5hrs, leaving in 6.5hrs), as it is pretty clear to us passengers that the cabin door responsible for the depressurisation was D
EFINITELY NOT going to get miraculously fixed whilst here in a non-Singapore airlines airport!! We are all a little hesitant about getting on our next legs of our journeys, just hope the worst is over...."

I wonder if there were other better diversion options? Or was this emergency so critical that SIA was forced into an immediate descent into the nearest airport. Interesting......


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12723 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11953 times:

SQ8850 just departed from SIN to pick up the stranded passengers.

http://fr24.com/SIA8850

It's gonna be a long day for those passengers.



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User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11875 times:

Wonder what caused that to happen? Shame it was Baku where I guess visa restrictions mean passengers can't be accommodated locally.

How long does it take to put all those oxygen masks back into their original position?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12723 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11820 times:

Emergency or not, some people feel the need to place a #selfie on Twitter:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdQUvMlIgAAMvhZ.jpg:large

http://twitter.com/RunwayGirl/status/420198992153022464



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User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3750 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11641 times:
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Quoting babybus (Reply 4):
How long does it take to put all those oxygen masks back into their original position?

I believe they all must be replaced to ensure no diseases etc. are passed to later passengers.


User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6840 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11644 times:

Quoting babybus (Reply 4):
Wonder what caused that to happen?

Possibly a door seal issue, from that fount of knowledge the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-plane-make-emergency-landing.html

Responding to a flood of posts on Facebook, Singapore Airlines noted that noise was reported from a door during an earlier flight of the same plane.


Aircraft was 9V-SKE

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/9VSKE



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User currently offlineist2014 From Turkey, joined Jan 2014, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11437 times:

is Baku runway ok for A380 landing and takeoff with passanger load

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12723 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11173 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 3):
SQ8850 just departed from SIN to pick up the stranded passengers.

Replacement equipment is now descending into GYD.




Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.
User currently onlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 982 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11160 times:

Quoting ist2014 (Reply 8):
is Baku runway ok for A380 landing and takeoff with passanger load

Well obviously ! I'm sure the crew have a well- documented list of diversion airports en route like any longhaul flight has.


User currently offline747megatop From United States of America, joined May 2007, 716 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 10915 times:

Quoting oly720man (Reply 7):
Possibly a door seal issue, from that fount of knowledge the Daily Mail

What caused the plan to drop though? Or was the plane dropping actually the pilots doing a rapid descent to reach a safe altitude bacause of the depressurization? To me it seems like the pilots were reacting to the depressurization by diving to a safe altitude and the passenger Nathan Phelps probably interpreted that as an incontrolled descent.

Here is what a BBC article says -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25618122

Nathan Phelps, an electrical supervisor from south Wales who was on the flight, told the BBC the plane was cruising at around 38,000 feet when it suddenly began to drop.


"I literally thought we were all going to die. There was no warning, the plane just went into a deep descent, the masks dropped and you automatically thought we were going to crash. There was no other rational thought really. You couldn't really look at it optimistically because you had never experienced anything like that before."


User currently offlinePanAm1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10646 times:

First of all- Thank goodness everyone is okay. I think it is noteworthy that the A380 seems to get people down safely when there's a problem. That's a very good trait.

How old is this particular aircraft? And what on earth could cause something like this is a relatively new airframe?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12723 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10513 times:

Quoting PanAm1971 (Reply 12):
How old is this particular aircraft?

Delivered in June 2008.



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User currently offlineshanxz From Singapore, joined Apr 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10388 times:

Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2):
I wonder if there were other better diversion options? Or was this emergency so critical that SIA was forced into an immediate descent into the nearest airport. Interesting......

Why not DXB? Just the same distance as Baku it seems. It's an SQ station and much better equipped.



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User currently offlinecougar15 From Australia, joined Sep 2013, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 10180 times:
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Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2):
Singapore Airlines said it is seeking clearance from local authorities to transfer affected customers to a hotel

Wow, even if they manage to agree with Authorities, that´s one heck of a lot of Hotelroom SQ will be looking for in Baku!



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User currently offlineDDR From Switzerland, joined Sep 2013, 155 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8976 times:

Quoting PA110 (Thread starter):
27 crew on board.

I still find this impressive even after a few years of flying  



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User currently offlineflyenthu From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8843 times:
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"But he added that 'the door was inspected by engineers on the ground in London with no findings, and the aircraft was cleared for continued operation.'"

The above quote is from the BBC link. Did the engineers figure out what caused the noise in the previous flight? With such a vital part as the cabin door, I find it odd that the plane was given clear for the return trip without getting into the bottom of the incident. Makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes, no?


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2642 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8766 times:

Dont know if it was the pilots or dispatch who made the call to land in GYD, but if it was dispatch, well it was evidently a bad call on their part.

Stuff like.......

Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2):
We cannot get into any hotels as the passengers do not have Visa's

and..........

Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2):
with only dinner given to us last night, no breakfast

Is unacceptable....

It's one thing if the pilots decided to land at the nearest suitable airport due to a life or death situation, and its an entirely different thing if they flew 3 hours to get there after the oxygen masks dropped, confirming more or less that the depressurization became a non issue once the plane got down to 10000ft.

As was mentioned above, seems to me DXB would have been a better option.

Thenoflyzone

[Edited 2014-01-06 16:27:05]


us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlinepeterinlisbon From Portugal, joined Jan 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8713 times:

When something like a depressurisation occurs, the pilots first have to:

1. put their oxygen masks on (at 38,000 ft the pilots would pass out within 18 seconds).
2. descend as quickly as possible to 10,000 ft
3. communicate with air traffic control to avoid a collision as they descend
4. find the nearest airport with wifi to land at so that the passengers can post their photos on twitter

Explaining the situation to passengers can only come after these steps have been taken and, obviously, the pilots have to try to figure out exactly what has happened and what they are going to do about it before they make any announcement so I guess that's why there was a delay of 15 minutes before there was any communication.

I guess an emergency descent has to be pretty scary but as soon as you lose pressure you want to get away from 38,000ft as quickly as possible because people will lose consiousness very quickly if their masks are not used properly and there is not enough oxygen for more than 10 minutes.


User currently offlineDizzy777 From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8609 times:

Its a little more than a straight forward depressurisation

photo courtesy of Airline Hub Buzz
https://www.facebook.com/Airlinehubbuz



[Edited 2014-01-06 16:31:11]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8534 times:

Quoting DDR (Reply 16):
Quoting PA110 (Thread starter):
27 crew on board.

Is that the standard SQ A380 crew total? Seems a little high.



[quote=ist2014,reply=8]is Baku runway ok for A380 landing and takeoff with passanger load

Can't see a problem with a 10,500 ft. runway at sea level.


User currently offlineinfinit From Singapore, joined Jul 2008, 598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8329 times:

http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/si...-after-loud-noise-heard-from-plane

Looking at the second picture here. it looks like the cabin crew were serving drinks on the ground in Baku


User currently offlineshanxz From Singapore, joined Apr 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8177 times:

Quoting peterinlisbon (Reply 19):
4. find the nearest airport with wifi to land at so that the passengers can post their photos on twitter

Quote of the day! Seems like Twitter has made into pilot emergency manuals yeah?



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7925 times:

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 18):
Stuff like.......

Quoting GneissGuy (Reply 2):
We cannot get into any hotels as the passengers do not have Visa's

If there's any truth whatsoever in the 3 hrs thing, could they not have gone to a much larger city in, for example, Turkey?? Is Ankara within a couple of hours of Baku? I would imagine you'd be getting much better support there with things like discretionary visas and so on. Where would they have roughly been when they experienced the problem, given that it's claimed they were up to three hours flying time away from Baku en route to Singapore from London?

For some reason though I'm just not altogether happy to believe three hours as a figure in this context.

Edit: I'm guessing they were over Russia, so maybe Azerbaijan seemed a better option.

[Edited 2014-01-06 18:40:48]


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25 blink182 : Actually, Baku has a lot of hotel rooms, just that they're all luxury brands so SQ may have to pay up if that's what they decide to do. J2 tends to d
26 Post contains links flyenthu : I know this is too early to speculate, but SIA will have to answer important safety questions. 1. Why was the door incident in the SIN-LHR not adequat
27 JAAlbert : Must have been some nice views out the windows cruising along at 10,000ft! What does this photograph depict? I see its a door, but what is sticking o
28 AR385 : Just as all of the other airliners out there which have been certified to fly passengers.
29 Post contains images Dizzy777 : It is the door seal and (by the look of it) the attachment fitting this pic gives a better look photo courtesy of Airline Hub Buzz https://www.facebo
30 blink182 : All, As of about 90 minutes ago, aircraft is parked on a taxiway parallel to the runway and to me looked like there were no faults, but I didn't get a
31 Post contains images francoflier : Oh, heavens no. God forbid they run out of battery. What a excruciating and torturous experience that would be. How would they be able to bitch and m
32 neutronstar73 : I bet those masks being deployed freaked a lot of passengers out!
33 Post contains links KarelXWB : Singapore Airlines to refund passengers stranded in Azerbaijan: http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking...engers-stranded-azerbaijan-2014010
34 trent1000 : That's because according to one of the usual, sensationalised reports, one 17 year old thought "I'm going to die"... Might as well film yourself in y
35 Post contains links KarelXWB : A replacement door will be fitted to the plane in Baku before it returns to Singapore for more inspections. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...ay-
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