BAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2 Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3403 times:
I will be going to Colombia in November and will likely be flying with P5 (Aerorepublica) at some point. How reliable is this airline compared to AV? Are there any differences in standard at all?
I will be flying to LET (Leticia) which seems to be only served by P5 three times per week. As my travel plans are still pretty vague at the moment, what are the chances of getting a flight to LET at very short notice? I have heard that these flights are usually quite full. Are fares for on the day departures much more expensive?
P5 seems to fly to LET only 3 times per week. Do they usually stick to this schedule, or are cancellations common? Are there ANY other airlines in Colombia that fly to LET at all?
And finally, how relaible would P5 be in getting my luggage on a connecting flight? I will probably fly to LET from CLO (Cali) or CTG (Cartegena) and will transit through BOG. Can P5 and BOG baggage handlers be trusted with my bags?
RCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4328 posts, RR: 13 Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
P5 is BAD BAD BAD but only in terms of service and punctuality. In the other stuff, youll be fine. Also, give AV a try on BOG-CLO or BOG-CTG, much better than P5...the seats, service and planes (AV´s MD80s are by far newer), but AV is also kinda delay-liking.
Bogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 770 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3280 times:
I fly regularly on both airlines and I do not find P5 worse or better than AV. P5 has renewed their fleet recently and and most of its aircraft are now MD 80´s like AV´s fleet. From my personal experience I tend to have problems with AV although they are in my heart so I will keep forgiving, nothing has ever been that bad, but I have never had a problem with P5. I live in BOG so I do not transit bags ever through here, so I can not give faith of it. But I do see lots of people transiting on both airlines all the time. Good luck any how, and let us know.
Bogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 770 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3267 times:
RCS you may be right, I have no idea of the exact date of P5 MD 81 or AV MD 83 but yes AV´s are two models newer, but in my opinion they both look quite very well kept inside. I flew with BA about a month ago on their 763´s and for about the same age the MD we are taking about BA´s planes are falling apart inside.
RCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4328 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3222 times:
German Efromovich, a man who is looking to buy AV, has said that he has plans to replace the fleet. But well....there is also a sheik after the airline, and his plan has been held secret for the moment. All we know is that he will give AV 120m and 51% of the stocks to the pilots.
SOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2496 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 3212 times:
Don't pay attention to previous (childish) advices, as you may know it is impossible to judge a book by its cover, and an airline by one or two experiencies.
First of all, indeed, P5 is the only passenger airline offering scheduled flights from BOG to LET. Avianca used to fly this route via their partern company SAM, but quit a while ago.
Yields (both cargo and passenger) on this route tend to be high, and you'll see that prices are considerably higher than fares on other type of domestic routes. I would certainly recommend that you book in advance as long as you can, and try to get a good deal with AeroRepublica to Leticia.
The airplane, an MD-80, most of them ex-SAS, will certainly be in good shape and pretty similar to those extensively operated by american and european carriers. In case it is your first experience onboard this flight, I highly recommend a window seat because the jungle views and the approach into the Amazon and over the river can be fantastic.
It is one of the longest domestic flights here in Colombia, lasting more or less one hour and a half. It should be no problem cosidering what you usually get onboard LCC in Europe/USA for three hour flights.
AeroRepublica itself is a good competitive company that has given large leaps into modernization in the last years. They have managed to keep a significant piece of the market for themselves, and are currently an ISO9001 qualified airline operating to 11 different cities in Colombia and 1 international destination. They are Avianca's number 1 competitor in the national market, and operate MD80 aircraft on many routes where the national flagcarrier flies turboprops.
I don't know how would they handle your luggage, as all my experiences with them have been in point-to-point services, but I suggest you give them a try.
AeroRepublica currently offers up to 8 daily flights from CLO to BOG, and a couple of service from CTG to BOG as well.
Let us know about your experience in AeroRepublica, I'm pretty sure you'll have no problem as they are a fine company.
BAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3210 times:
Thank you SOUTHAMERICA! Just the sort of info I was looking for.
I'm planning on buying my ticket to LET as soon as I arrive in El Dorado Airport. And I'm re-arranging my plans a little too as having far too much experience in seeing how BA and other airlines mishandle passengers' luggage in Europe, I'm now going to fly directly from BOG rather than connect from elsewhere. I think I have been made paranoid by having to invent explanations to passengers as to why their luggage went missing at LHR or why a CD player was mysteriously removed by handlers in LIS.
RCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4328 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3204 times:
Southamerica, if you have read my previous posts correctly, I have based this opinion on my experiences plus experiences from friends and family. Of about 14, only 1 has been positive and 2 have been OK. The rest had a bad time.
Juanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3291 times:
All I know is that they do have a very bad reputation on their "on-time" performances, it is likely that you'll have a delay.
By the way, getting an ISO9000 certification (or ISO 18000 for the case) is something easy, the hard time comes when you have to keep it; I would be pleased if I had the chance to be part of the group who measures the accomplishment of the Iso9000 certification for Aerorepublica, specially if I had the chance to check their cancellations, unexpected stops, delays...
Anyway, give them a try, the worst thing that would happen is that you'll be trapped in the middle of the jungle.