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Airports In Bad Or Good Neighborhoods  
User currently offlinermoore7734 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 111 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

A few years back had my car broke into at ATL (home airport) but fortunately my anti-theft system prevented the perpetrators from driving off with it. I consider where the airport is located a high crime area. EWR also in bad area and maybe DEN in a good area (perhaps a unexpected encounter with a tumbleweed at worst ?).

Taking a poll of who considers what airports in good or bad areas just for fun.

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User currently offlinePenguins From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

The areas surrounding LAX and BOS aren't the best. Let's face it, good neighborhoods won't allow the city to put up an airport next door. The best I can think of is SMO.

User currently offlinePacNWJet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

The area surrounding PDX has a large concentration of exotic dance clubs (translation: strip joints) that cater to visiting businessmen staying at hotels near the airport. Not sure if this makes it a good neighborhood or a bad one  

User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 836 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

It's not necessarily 'good' or 'bad', but XNA is in the middle of nowhere. I flew in there last February and felt like I was in the 1920s with the kinds of roads we were on and houses (if you can call them that) we were passing for 10-15 minutes before we made it to the highway.

Quoting rmoore7734 (Thread starter):
EWR also in bad area

I am positively frightened every time I drive by EWR or fly out of there.

[Edited 2014-06-13 10:45:06]


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User currently offlineAirontario From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 551 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Generally airports are in 'bad' neighbourhoods. Think about it, if you have plenty of money to live where you want, would you want to be near an approach path with loud noises at all hours? (I get that on this site that's probably a yes, but for the general population it's a no.)

Generally the income near airports is much lower than the rest of the city. Low income leads to higher crime.


User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

Quoting Airontario (Reply 4):
Generally airports are in 'bad' neighbourhoods.

Exactly. The area around an airport is generally considered an undesirable place to live, so the only reason anyone lives there is because they can't afford to live somewhere nicer. That's when the airport can be said to be in a "neighborhood" at all. Airports like SMF and the aforementioned DEN are surrounded by farmland.


User currently offlinermoore7734 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

Quoting cjg225 (Reply 3):
I am positively frightened every time I drive by EWR or fly out of there.

Yes a # of years ago i got in at night at EWR and my directions led me going down a 1-way street going the wrong way in a bad neighborhood. I was in the "hood" so to speak and instead of stopping at RED traffic light i just went thru it anyway because i was desperate to get out of there.


User currently offlineMesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3145 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2199 times:
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The area around MYR isn't the most wealthy, but I'd never feel unsafe breaking down in the area. When I go planespotting I get nothing but friendly waves and greetings form the locals. Southern hospitality at it's finest!


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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Quoting cjg225 (Reply 3):
I am positively frightened every time I drive by EWR or fly out of there.

I would not consider EWR to be in a bad neighborhood. Heck, I walk around there all the time when I have long layovers (even at night) to get Brazilian and Portuguese food (something that does not exist in MSP). I have never once been afraid. Now, there are some VERY sketchy neighbourhoods in Newark but the area immediately around the airport is not one of them IMHO....


User currently offlinejeffh747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2014, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

MIA, as much as I hate to admit about my favorite airport, is not in the best place with Hialeah to the North, and Kendall and Tamiami to the Southwest. FLL on the other hand is in a pretty good area, not a huge amount of crime, for Broward in general actually. My home airport PHL is on the edge of being in the bad side of Philly, but not much crime occurs usually around the airport.

User currently offlineFlyingSicilian From Italy, joined Mar 2009, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

Key West isn't so bad


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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2068 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Just south of IAH on the other side of Beltway 8 is a pretty bad neighborhood. Across FM 1960to the north are some good neighborhoods and to the east before 59 are some bad-to-OK neighborhoods.


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13116 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

North of EWR is a State Prison. Guess prisoners don't complain about the noise. East is the NJ Turnpike and Port Newark/Elizabeth.
Most of the immediate area around EWR is commercial, warehouses, factories. One big problem with EWR is the complicated mix of roads around it, made worse by poor signage. Southwest is US 1-9 in Elizabeth, mainly fast fooders, cheap motels, truck stops, gas stations. Roads west of the main ones are definitely risky. NJ 21 going into and through Newark is bad at night for crime risks, and daytimes can have traffic hassles. Across to the west of EWR is a Budweiser brewery/warehouse, and as major rail lines in the area, which means numerous warehouses and factories.


User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting rmoore7734 (Thread starter):
maybe DEN in a good area (perhaps a unexpected encounter with a tumbleweed at worst ?).

Amusing you mention DEN. The airport is literally in the middle of NOWHERE, but because land is cheap, a great number of developers have started building neighborhoods, and rather nice/expensive ones around the airport, then suing them for all the airplane noise.... Only in the US.....

MIA is definitely in one of the worst parts of town. OKC isnt in a 'bad' area and generally middle class around it. LAS is definitely in one of the better areas of the city. LAX isnt that bad by LA standards.



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User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2121 times:

SNA is in the good part of OC bordering Costa Mesa, Newport Beach and Irvine

User currently offlinermoore7734 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 13):
MIA is definitely in one of the worst parts of town

Yes must agree got caught in one of the surrounding neighbor-HOOD'S and reminds me of Tony Montana in scarface movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nds_oQI_kac

  


User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3084 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

SMF is still surrounded by farm land, so I'd say neither good nor bad. It's just kind of there.

RNO is surrounded by mostly industrial to the east and commercial to the west. Neither good nor bad.



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User currently offlineTylerSmithSJC From United States of America, joined Oct 2013, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2121 times:
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SJC - Speaking out of personal experience SJC is located in a great area. Even though it is mostly industrial to the north there are some great places to eat like the In-N-Out directly on the other side of the airport (Almost like at LAX) as well as the new Earthquakes soccer stadium going up next to that. To the south between the airport and downtown it can get a bit sketchy looking at night but besides that it is in a great area.

SFO - SFO is basically isolated by 101 to the west and the fact that it's basically an island. If you go over the bridge further west of the airport it can get a bit scary looking but nothing too bad.

SAN - SAN is also located in an ok neighborhood just nothing great to do around it because of the squeeze for land. There is a dance club that caters to the business traveler as well on the way out along with some dingy bars but that is about it.

CLD - CLD is located in a large business park area and like the rest of the Carlsbad and the general area is really nice.



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User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Lax is kinda funny. If you go east of the Airport, is in a bad area. If you go North and South, Playa Del Ray, and El Segundo, The area is very nice.

HNL - is in a not so hot area. From the airport to Nimitz is not to safe at night. They even got a Prison next to Hawaiian Airlines MTC area, towards Hickam east gate. I couldn't believe they built a Prison next to the airport.


User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

The municipality in which STR is located, Leinfelden-Echterdingen, is pretty affluent. The real estate prices there are on the same level as the ones in the city center of Stuttgart itself, which is quite a stretch from there.


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Quoting jeffh747 (Reply 9):
Hialeah to the North, and Kendall and Tamiami to the Southwes

It's not exactly Hialeah. Virginia Gardens and Miami Springs are north of it. The east is probably the worst area but honestly not that bad.

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 13):
MIA is definitely in one of the worst parts of town

Not anymore. 10-15 years ago it was pretty bad. But the area is not what most would consider the worst part of town. I guess the arena North of State Road 112 is not great.

Here is a map of areas of Miami based on locals perspective, none of the areas bordering MIA are known as "dangerous"



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25356 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

I've never been to MDW but I don't think that part of Chicago is considered a "good" neighborhood.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 12):
North of EWR is a State Prison. Guess prisoners don't complain about the noise.

Like Rikers Island, the main prison complex for NYC with a capacity for over 15,000 prisoners and about 10,000 staff, immediately adjacent to LGA.
http://goo.gl/maps/0zI0V

There have been a couple of serious crashes at LGA over the years where prisoners assisted in rescuing survivors.


User currently offlineIAHflyer97 From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

HOU isn't exactly in the greatest neighborhood (as is that entire area of Houston).


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 20):
Here is a map of areas of Miami based on locals perspective, none of the areas bordering MIA are known as "dangerous"

Forgot to link the map: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=212676495963941324179.0004d7c237cd0fd254811&dg=feature It is the area East of MIA off the main roads which are not good. But with the new car rental center and train station thankfully tourist don't need to get near there as long as they stay on the highways which are the easiest way to get to Miami Beach. But besides for that the West, North and South of MIA are all good areas.

Quoting jeffh747 (Reply 9):
Hialeah to the North

And Hialeah by no means should be considered dangerous. Working class? Yes. But its violent crime rate is actually pretty low for a city of 200,000+ in Florida.

[Edited 2014-06-14 20:57:21]


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User currently offlinekann123air From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 968 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Quoting cjg225 (Reply 3):
It's not necessarily 'good' or 'bad', but XNA is in the middle of nowhere. I flew in there last February and felt like I was in the 1920s with the kinds of roads we were on and houses (if you can call them that) we were passing for 10-15 minutes before we made it to the highway.

So true! There is an abandoned bar-like structure right at the entrance of XNA.... hilarious sight. Right in the middle of nowhere. I'd rather have it that way than an EWR-like shady area though.

JFK isn't so bad. I've been to Charles Memorial Park and Bayswater for spotting, and the locals have been very friendly. Not the most affluent neighborhoods, but very peaceful and serene. Loved every minute there.



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25 cjg225 : What made it even better was that I got in around 10 pm, so the guy who picked me up and I were driving in total darkness past these shacks and creep
26 dfwjim1 : Parts of KDAL are surrounded by bad neighborhoods to the south and west while the east side is nice.
27 PanHAM : Having worked at JFK in that area between Rockaway and Guy R. Brewer (NY) Blvd and re-visiting that place numerous times I never gelf unsecure there.
28 Fallap : Well, the areas arounf CPH airport are very friendly and calm. But the price of an apartment or house in or around Copenhagen is abormal regardless o
29 PanHAM : Show me a western European Airport that is located in a "dangerous" or "bad" neighborhood.
30 hoons90 : The neighborhood just west of CDG isn't particularly a nice area. Le Bourget is also in a rough area but it doesn't have airline service.
31 bobnwa : What part of NJ did Tony Soprano live in?[Edited 2014-06-15 09:44:56]
32 usflyer msp : Thank You! That is my peeve with this thread. For some people it seems that any community that is non upper middle class or majority minority (yeah i
33 flymia : In 2012 there was 4 murders in Hialeah as city of over 235,000. In Miami Beach a smaller city there were 5. I never understood myself why people thin
34 aerorobnz : The main factor is not whether the residents nearby mind the noise, it's whether a large chunk of flat land can be purchased for as little as possible
35 727tiger : MCI is fine, just way out in suburban nowhere with fields still to its west, south and north (across I-29). The city sprawled out to it over the years
36 socaldl : I would say RDU is surrounded by very good neighborhoods. Right in the middle of Research Triangle Park with suburbs of North Raleigh and Cary in the
37 TWA772LR : DFW is right up there with the likes of SMF. It just sits out there in the middle of nowhere. I've heard DAL isn't in the best area of Dallas. And GKY
38 LittleFokker : For it being an older airport and the city growing around it, the neighborhoods around ORD are relatively nice. MDW on the other hand, no so much. HOU
39 727tiger : Most importantly, at least for some of us, Circuit of the Americas developed very near AUS. COTA presents a world-class racing facility for Formula 1
40 Post contains images jumpjets : Does this explain why BA opened their AUS route - so all us petrol heads can get a fix with minimal inconvenience
41 cjg225 : This morning I discovered that TTN, while the single least-well-equipped airport I've ever been at, is in one of the nicest areas of Jersey. Lots of v
42 Coal : If you want to avoid the toll on SR112 you can take a drive through Liberty City. Really scary. This all seems to be the case in the US. In Asia, air
43 type-rated : You forgot the area immediately to the east of IAH, Greenspoint aka Gunspoint. It's so bad it has a national reputation! The area around MDW isn't th
44 Braniff747SP : The area immediately surrounding LAX isn't too bad. Once one gets a couple of miles in, however, is when it gets rough.
45 e38 : Although not currently served by commercial air carriers, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Detroit City Airport (KDET). I have not been there, but I
46 zrs70 : ACK (Nantucket) .... Pretty much the dhole island is a nice neighborhood!
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