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Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub City  
User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5336 times:
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Hey, this is just out of sheer curiosity. I apprecaite the information.
I was thinking maybe CO in LAX


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4365 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5286 times:
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CO in LAX? Hardly. WN only has focus cities, so I would say LAS and PHX with both having around 160 daily departures on WN.


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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5277 times:

CO in LAX? AA has a MUCH more dominant prescence at LAX than CO, and it's not an AA hub.

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32604 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5267 times:

US Airways at LaGuardia, Boston, Fort Lauderdale, Pittsburgh, and Regan.

American at Raleigh, Boston, LaGuardia, JFK, and Los Angeles.

Delta at JFK, Orlando, and Fort Lauderdale.

You are looking in each case at 60+ daily flights, many even 100+ daily. None are hubs. United, Northwest, and Continental do not operate such large focus city operations.



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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5252 times:

I think he means for the airline itself; that Continental's largest non-hub station is LAX. I might be completely wrong, but that's what I understood from the original post.

If my assumption is correct, I think Continental's largest non-hub station would probably be BOS, mostly because of the large number of mainline flights running from EWR to BOS, plus a healthy amount of flights from CLE and IAH. MCO, TPA, SFO, AUS, and SAT are all pretty decently sized stations for CO I would wager.


User currently offlineMkeflyer717 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 431 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5247 times:

Besides WN's focus cities what about NW's 30+ flights out of MKE and IND, or AA at RDU and LGA. Neither of those two airports are considered hubs. Right?


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User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5234 times:
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In my original post, I meant to say that I thought LAX had the most flights of a non-hub city for CO only. Sorry.


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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5223 times:

In my original post, I meant to say that I thought LAX had the most flights of a non-hub city for CO only. Sorry.

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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5219 times:

Doesn't MSY get a healthy does of CO also? Don't they have, like 4 gates there or something running mostly mainline?


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

ERJ170,

MSY usually gets 14 daily mainline from CO with 3 daily ERJ's. Some days we see 16 mainline, it just depends on the day of the week. CO uses three gates in MSY on Concourse D.


User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

At one time MSY and LAX were both legitimate focus cities for CO. That was before CO abandoned nearly all non-hub flying after CALite was dropped. I think that in the late 80s CO was much larger out of LAX than AA and almost as large as UA. At the same time CO had more daily flights from MSY than Delta, the traditional #1 carrier at MSY did.

A note on Delta @ FLL. Delta actually has several fewer mainline flights from FLL now (including Song, but excluding Delta Connection) than they did in 1979. IMHO, Delta has finally in the past few months realized that they have allowed a market that they should dominate ( and they have traditionally been the largest carrier, even when Eastern was around, though just by a hair in those days) become one of the nation's most competetive. In 1979, I believe they were MIAs second or third largest airline, behind only Eastern and perhaps National, but ahead of both Pan Am and Braniff who had large MIA operations.


User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5037 times:

Speaking of strictly a station with flights only to other hubs and focus cities................

AA at XNA

9 Daily flights to DFW (1 M80, 3 CR7's, 4 ERJ-45's, 1 ERJ-40)
6 Daily flights to ORD (1 M80, 3 CR7's, 2 ERJ-40's)
3 Daily flights to STL (3 J41's)
1 Daily flight to LAX (1 CR7)
3 Daily flights to LGA (3 ERJ-35's)

For a total of 22 daily flights

or adding a few other destinations but by no means denoting a focus city

AA at BNA

8 Daily flights to DFW (7 M80's , 1 ERJ-45's)
7 Daily flights to ORD (2 M80's, 2 CR7's, 3 ERJ-45's)
5 Daily flights to STL (1 ERJ-45, 2 ERJ-40, 2 J31's)
1 Daily flight to LAX (1 M80)
5 Daily flights to LGA (2 MD80's, 1 ERJ-40, 2 ERJ-35's)
3 Daily flights to MIA (1 MD80, 2 ERJ-40's)
2 Daily flights to TRI (2 J31's)

For a toatal of 31 Daily flights





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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

One could add Columbus also, as it is not considered a focus city by American even though they run a decent number of flights from the city:

AA at CMH

7 times daily to DFW (3 MD80s, 4 E145s)
8 times daily to ORD (2 MD80s, 1 CR7, 4 E145s, 1 E140)
3 times daily to STL (1 MD80, 2 E140s)
4 times daily to BOS(1 E145, 1 E140, 2 E135)
5 times daily to LGA (5 E135s)
4 times daily to RDU (2 E145s, 2 E135s)
3 times weekly to MIA (2 E140s, 1 E145)

Total: 31 daily flights

*Edited: no such thing as a "C"145*

[Edited 2004-11-30 07:35:05]

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4976 times:

Largest non-hubs for AA, DL, US:

AA: LAX has 157, LGA has 131, BOS has 121, JFK has 84, RDU has 79, DCA has 62

DL: LGA has 112, MCO has 105, BOS has 95, JFK has 95

US: LGA has 204, DCA has 186, BOS has 108



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4961 times:

MSY usually gets 14 daily mainline from CO

Keep in mind that that often includes the largest ship in their domestic fleet


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

US will be pretty big in MSY as of 2/7, and even though it's by no means a focus city, it's still pretty impressive when you consider the fact that it's all mainline. We'll have 5 overnighters here as of 2/7! US is solidifying itself as the premier carrier from the Northeast to New Orleans in terms of frequency.

5 flights to CLT (321, 733)
5 flights to PHL (733, 734, 319, 320)
3 flights to DCA (319, 320)
2 flights to LGA (319, 733)
1 flight to PIT (319)


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4812 times:

Southwest at DAL has 123 daily flights.

User currently offlineIslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4611 times:

WN at ISP. Just built the new $55 million terminal there, and they aren't even a hub. They also just announced the more 4 new gates as well! The local paper says that there will be up to 80 flights when all is done.

I'm pretty sure they have from 28-36 flights a day to:
BWI
MDW
LAS
FLL
MCO
PBI
TPA
BNA
and quite a few direct flights.
BWI has the most frequencies a day.



Joe


User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4393 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Delta at FLL.
Avianca at CLO.



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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Avianca at CLO.


CLO has significantly less (destinations and frequencies) than MDE, obviously.  Big grin



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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1560 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

CX at YVR:

2x daily to HKG
daily to YYZ
daily to JFK



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4551 times:
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SAA from CPT (weekdays)

3 x BFN
9 x DBN
3 x ELS
4 x GRJ
2 x KIM
4 x HLA
18 x JNB
1 x LHR
1 x MQP
3 x PLZ
1 x NTY
1 x UTN
2 x WDH

total flights per day: 52

These are only schedules that operate every weekday. Some destinations have flights several times per week. In addition there are flights direct from CPT to ATL, FRA, GBE, and SID






[Edited 2004-12-05 19:00:15]


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User currently offlineJafa From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 782 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4534 times:

Lets define what a hub or focus city really is.
A hub is where you can make connections to other flights.
A focus city is just a spoke city that the airline operates numerous flights from.
So SWA does operate hubs at many of thier cities.


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