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"Your Presidential Fleet" - (fantasy)  
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

OK, here's a new one. (maybe) If you were the president/leader of your country, and you could chose your own fleet, what would you chose?

Well, if I was President of the United States, this would be "my" fleet; (2 of each of course)  Big grinThey would all have the "official" Air Force One livery.

1 - 747-400ER. Used for high profile trips within the U.S. and International flights. Free space above the main deck would be used for crew rest areas and possible location of avionics and secret equipment. That and the thing would just look awesome!  Big thumbs up


2 - 767-200ER. Used for flights within the U.S. and lower profile International flights. Also, the 767 would be equipped for in flight refueling and have the same top secret communications equipment for emergency situations.

3 - 717-200. Used for the short hops to Camp David and so forth. Would have trans continental range just in case.

Keep in mind that this is just for fun, so lets hear your choices for your country!  Big thumbs up

[Edited 2004-12-01 03:15:58]

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User currently offlineUAXEMB120 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

Oh My

747- Used for pretty much all travel for diplomatic reasons

737-Used for flights within the USA

Embraer Regional Jet 190-Used for travel within the East Coast

EMB120- Used for short hops

Cessna Skycaravan-My Personal Plane for weekends (maybe bring it to Camp david)

User currently offlineAndrewAir From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

747-400ER for long trips.

737-7..BBJ within the US and small runway airports

and a

Learjet 40 for personal use


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11960 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

Most likely a Piper Cherokee, as the Norwegian government wouldn't help finance anything larger...  Smile


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3693 times:

B747-400ER, with all the gizmos, for all the reasons mentioned above.

B767-300ER, ditto . . . although I like the 757 better a) it's out of production and b) it's a narrow body.

EMB-190 for short hops. Embraer has some great a/c

User currently offlineTW741 From Austria, joined Sep 2004, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3676 times:

Thom@s: Most likely a Piper Cherokee, as the Norwegian government wouldn't help finance anything larger...
in this case I wouldnt have any choice than a Cessna 150 (used of course) as our goverment wouldn't finance anything larger too  Laugh out loud

TWA - we showed you how good we have been!
User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11960 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

Well I'm just being realistic.  Smile Although in that case, I should also consider that we don't even have a president in this country. The King however uses a DA-20 Jet Falcon on his short trips, and comercial transport on his longer flights abroad.  Smile

And when he visited my local airport a few years back, it wasn't exactly Air Force one... http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=20236


"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineAZjetgeek From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 235 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

For international, transoceanic flights, a 747-400.

For international flights to Mexico, Canada and South America, a 777-200.

For domestic flights (inside US), a 737-800 (w/winglets).

For personal use, a Bombardier BD-700 Global Challenger (probably my favorite corporate/executive jet).

Long live the RJ!
User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 9059 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

For ultra-long haul flights, an A380. Fitted with everything from Suites to an "entertainment" room (computers, big screen TV's and etc...) to a racquet ball court and a Gym.  Nuts

And a 7E7-9 for long haul. Fitted with the same as above, except the "fitness center"  Big thumbs up

And a EMB-195 for short hops. Fitted with First class seats and a shower.

For "emergency" meetings and the like... an F-14 Big grin

How would your aircraft be? Am I going too far?  Nuts

"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (11 years 22 hours ago) and read 3616 times:

1. Boeing 747-400 for Int'l Trips.

2. Boeing 767-300ER for longer domestic trips.

3. Boeing BBJ for short hops.

4. Learjet 35A for very short trips that dont require a lot of staff.


User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 18 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Ooo, just thought of another one.

A Bell 609 tiltrotor to replace Marine One. For those shorter missions listed by Delta767300ER for his Lear 35A.

User currently offlineACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 15 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

The president doesn't need a fleet, he can always fly Independence Air  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Seriously though, I would use a C-130, the mighty Hercules!

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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

I feel the need to explain my choice for the 767-200 for domestic missions. The 747 a big enough for a good sized conference table. True there is room and a 757 or 737, but there would be room for a bigger one on the 767. Also, it would be able to carry more passengers for press, cabinet members, VIP's and so forth. It could also have good airfield performance with the lighter loads that it "normally" encounters.

Now then, after further consideration, I have made a change. My third choice would be a BBJ instead of a 717. Why? Well, In case there would be the necessity of carrying extra people further distances, the 717 may not be able to carry them as far if the situation need be. The BBJ could also get into the same smaller airfields the 717 could with a lighter payload.

OK, I think that'll do it.  Big thumbs up

(maybe)  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineTupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2210 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

No Airbusses!!!  Wow!

Anywayz  Nuts

A340-500, for long haul.

Bombardier Global Express for medium haul.

And for short haul, RJ100

For fun... Pilatus PC12.

Oh yeh! For helicopter, the mighty MD Explorer!

Tom  Nuts

User currently offlineAirbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3511 times:


2 A380's for international routes
2 A350's for long range routes
2 A345 for long range/ high profile routs
1 A321 for short hops
1 A320 for short hops
2 EMB-190 for short hops

Who says the President of the U.S. has to has U.S. planes?

User currently offlineWestjet_8 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

Two MD-11's for large incontinental hops, onboard hot tub, secert Canadian avaionics and satelaties to pick up live hockey when they come back on.

Two CRJ-900's for domestic modified into transcontietnal bussiness jets for domestic trips

Canadian. RIP 1999
User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

As a president I would wanted to be re-elected, so a Bombardier Global Express would easily do the job for me. Although it is the most expensive exec-jet out there, it has a rather short fuselage and therefore would appear cheaper than the AF1/A310/747/380/319/BBJ to the public eye . If any entourage (press & staff) had to travel with me, ad-hoc chartering a 757/767 or something similar for them would be enough and cheaper IMO.

"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 12042 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3493 times:

Well, if I ever should become President of the UK, if such an awful thing should ever happen, I'd have to have the following;

For longer overseas trips and as my flagship jet would be the MD11, with a DC10 for in flight refueling and to carry the press around. (Backup being the trusty VC10)  Big grin

Trips over to Europe would be made in an A321, could make do with the A319 but would need room again for some of the press.

Within the UK, well I'd upgrade the current BAe146-100 with a couple of RJ70's with full exec interior, so I could land at smaller airfields, and the press, they can lump it! Big thumbs up

Dan  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

When I become President of the United States of Europe, I will have the following fleet:

1 x Concorde - for transatlantic travel (basically just to show off to the Americans...). I would find a way of getting it back into service

2 x A380 with refuel capability - similar to Air Force One, but larger

2 x A345 if we can't get refuel capability

2 x A321 for short operations or for my VP

2 x CR7 for other government members

cabin crew: doors to automatic and cross-check...
User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

1. New Build Concorde with all the gizmos, EFIS glass cockpit and Jeppesen EFB.

2.C-172RG for short-medium hauls (100nm-900nm  Smile ), because we just ran out of money (note the purchase above,+fuel costs)

Now you're really flying
User currently offlineJetBlast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1232 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

Oh goodness, my fleet appears to be bigger than those of the oil countries!  Smile
Well, here it goes-
1. a Concorde as my home in the sky
2. Boeing 747-400
3. Airbus A340-600
4. Airbus A380 (soon!)
5. Boeing 747SP
6. Beech Starship (yay Beech Starship!)
7. Bombardier Global Express
8. Airbus A380
9. the 2nd Antonov An-225
10. Antonov An-124

There's tons more but I don't want to keep rambling on!

JetBlast @ BWI  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Speedbird Concorde One
User currently offlineBravo7e7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

744, 739, E170................

User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3361 times:

1) 747-300
2) 747-400ER
3) 767-400
4) 757-200
5) 737-6/7/8
6) Learjet 31
7) 727-1/200
8) 717
9) MD-11
10) L-1011


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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2911 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3333 times:

1 747-400ER
1 A380
Both for high profile international routes/destinations

1 A319 CJ for nearby/neighbouring countries

2 Emb-195 for domestic/regional purposes

User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

A) Airbus A340-500 for intercontinental flights.

B) Airbus A321 for regional flights.

C) Airbus A319/318 for domestic flights.

An airplane might disappoint any pilot but it'll never surprise a good one.
25 Bmacleod : Since Canada is so gung-ho on Airbus, A332 for long domestic and continental (US, Mexico, Carribean) A345 for international flights A318 for short fli
26 Post contains images Boeing nut : Dan2002's choices just probably created a massive deficit for Canada anyways! Anyway, I actually like the A340-500 for a long haul choice. Not a huge
27 Post contains images SE210Caravelle : My fleet as the President of the US: Representation & Public Flights: Boeing 747-400ER Private International Flights: Airbus A380-800 Private Transcon
28 Post contains images RichardBHX : If I was Prime Minister: 1. Boeing 747-400ER (main plane) 2. Boeing 747-200SUD (I'm not going to live in Downing St, I'm going to convert an old 747 i
29 Post contains images Thrust : 747-400ER, 777-300ER, 777-200ER, 767-400ER. Also, Concorde if it were still around. Supersonic jets and big Boeings would be what I would want in my P
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