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World's 10 Travel "Gates Of Hell"  
User currently offlineOzglobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2728 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 17928 times:

Wallpaper magazine did a feature in their travel section a couple of years ago on the world's "10 Travel Gates of Hell". It was very amusing and instructive. Examples included:

- "Tranfers at LHR involving a change of terminal"
- A certain ferry crossing in winter


(Abit harsh.....) "Any American airline, anywhere, anytime..."

What are YOUR travel "Gates of Hell":

As a resident of Paris, I would add Air France lounges, and the fact that CDG is the one of the best designed, yet worst managed airports in the world.

When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
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User currently offlineAlekToronto From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 17752 times:

I totally agree with the any American Airline anywhere, anytime. Possibly the only exception I would make would be for Aloha, Hawaiian or Jetblue.

My pics would be:

1. Heathrow Airport - anytime, anyflight. Has to be my number 1. Self explanatory.
2. Connecting at DeGaulle Airport - pax in Athens (if he can catch his plane), baggage in Joburg.
3. US Customs at any airport (esp. Miami, Los Angeles and JFK) - guilty until proven innocent.
4. Flying during the holidays, kids, kids and more kids. "no I won't hold your diaper"
5. Any flight between New York City and Southern Florida, whiny, nasty, needy pax.."hostess - do you know who I am?"
6. Alitalia, Iberia and Olympic Airways - great countries, shitty airlines
7. All airports in India - arrive to chaos, urine smell at 3am!
8. 17 hours on SAA's new Airbus A340-600's - where do I put my legs???
9. Any flight to Moscow - drunk before they board, crawling off the plane.
10. SVO Airport, nasty, nasty, nasty. Soviet service etiquette is alive and well.


User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 17728 times:

transfering flights in BOM from an international city to other Indian Cities (then you will know what hell is like)

User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3429 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 17685 times:

I have been to hell and back.

I connected through CDG once.

I don't really fly that often, but I can vouch that trying to make a connection at Charles De Gaulle would make the devil shake with fear.

Good day!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1611 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 17637 times:

Arrving at ORD for a flight and a few clouds appear on the horizon while the entire airport goes to sh!t... Now that is hell!

User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1611 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 17624 times:

Oh, one more I forgot...

Any Dollar Rent-A-Car location in New England. Owned and operated by complete morons! And that's truly a "Gates of Hell" company.

User currently offlineNoMoreRJs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 17516 times:

1) Customs at MIA
2) T3 at LHR
3) CDG
4) Domestic connections at DFW
5) ORD in December (and January, February,...)
6) Atlanta during storm season
7) Southwest at BWI
8) Losing MRTC on AA
9) Any ATA connection at MDW
10) RJs!

User currently offlineKITH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 378 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 17520 times:

-Trying to connect in Laguardia from west of PA to anywhere on a commuter plane, in july, with a line of thunderstorms sitting over NJ/NYC.
-Stuck in B1900 on the tarmac in PHL
-Connecting in CDG
-Middle seat in 777, three hours with no A/C in FCO in July. -Matt in KITH

Dante would approve!

User currently offlineCbs5150 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 17407 times:

I would have to agree with SVO! Standing in line for a couple hours in customs was a thrill for me. And, when the baggage carsouel gets full, the airport just takes your bags and puts them on the floor for you to look for them, at least thats how it was in 2000. Vknukovo wasn't much better. Karat Airlines let us put our bags into the plane (AN-26). I always thought LAX was a pain in the ass too!! Going from the Bradley terminal to Terminal or 2.

User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 17366 times:

-LOS: complete chaos!
- Customs in MIA
-IB service on long haul
-Waiting at the gate of ACC (it's sooo hot and no a/c!)
-Having to wait for any reason at Belgrade airport (BEG?)
-Turbulence at the precise moment my coffee is being served!

Carp aunque ganes o pierdas ...
User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 17344 times:

Any of the following airports during a ground stop or ground delay program:


Nothing like being stuck on the ground in an airplane for 3-5 hours without being able to even get up to use the bathroom!!!

[Edited 2004-11-16 05:04:00]

Flying is a privilege!
User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 17121 times:

For me, having to transfer between airports on the way home from an international trip like earlier this summer... LHR-JFK-LGA-DTW. It all worked out in the end but what a pain. So for me JFK-LGA.

NW B744 B742 B753 B752 A333 A332 A320 A319 DC10 DC9 ARJ CRJ S340
User currently offlineUsatoeze From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 358 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 17018 times:

10 Worst(All bad and in no particular order)
Any US customs facility (New DTW is almost ok but everything else is awful)
Connecting with ATA and Chicago Express at MDW (AKA standing or sitting at A10A??? during any storm, etc)
Being delayed at XNA and having to listen to a million account managers talk about their meetings with Wal-Mart.
EZE when the piqueteros are out.

Did I mention Lagos, Nigeria?

War is a very poor political tool
User currently offlineNethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 1090 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 16999 times:

-Flying more than 7 hours in no PTV aircrafts!!  Big grin
-Customs when arriving USA.
-Thai airways IFEs and Bangkok airport
-All American's airlines...AA,UA,NW,DL,CO
-Flying low cost carriers..eww
-Knowing that many high-reputation airlines are leaving business
-Staffs travel on overbooked flight!  Sad

Let's just blame it on yields.
User currently offlineWiLdmanVzla From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 16996 times:

If you're a venezuelan citizen, CCS during this Chavez' times!!!!!!


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 16970 times:

usatoeze: I've been lucky to never have the piquetero problem when going to or coming from EZE but I'm sure it sucks! By the way, have you ever been in LOS?  Laugh out loud

ps: I agree with your comment on boca vs River posted in your profile and for that I will put you in my RR list, but you should put River vs boca (we are better than them)  Wink/being sarcastic

Carp aunque ganes o pierdas ...
User currently offlineBaw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2028 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 16938 times:

Guys, gals, etc.
Not ALL American carriers suck. No argument that some of them do, but come on, you make us look like a bunch of paranoid rats looking for the terrorist cat....be in on an airplane, at an airport, etc. etc.

Also, what everyone says about LOS is true. A friend of mine used to be the AZ station manager in Lagos. What he did to get put there has remained a secret, but to this day, no AZ crew remain in Nigeria. Those of you who think AZ is shit should consider that when flying to/from Nigeria, that if your choice is AZ or Nigeria Airways, who are you going to fly? You will kiss the ground and bless the Pope for AZ taking you out of there, no matter how bad you might think they are. Yes the crews are really awful going there and back, but can you blame them? It is a bitch of a trip...MXP-ACC, then ACC-LOS-ACC, then ACC-MXP. A four day trip and armed guards around the plane when they get to LOS. Why they continue the flights are a mystery to me, but from what I understand, they are packed every day and they make a bucket of money.

Oh, and by the way, as an ex AZ manager, I take issue with those of you who think that AZ is shit. Noone, including me, is going to argue that they are near the best game in town and on a bad day or route, they can be a challenge. However, some of my best flights have been on AZ; on the days where the crew is friendly and things are working well...some of the best 12-13 hour flights I have had have been on AZ. Even in Economy!

I look forward to them coming back to the west coast. LAX...summer 2005 with a 777.

David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 16927 times:

no particular order

- immigration in the US. makes you feel like a criminal
- Varig MD-11
- arrival/dept. times of most European airlines to DEL and resulting difficulties with getting downtown
- taxi drivers in PRG (better to avoid them unless absolutely necessary)
- tansfers between LHR/STN/LGW

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 16915 times:

1. LHR. Heathrow is without doubt the Seventh Level of Hell, reserved for especially evil people like politicians. ESPECIALLY in transit.

2. CDG all terminals except 2F - ick ick ick. T1 was a lovely idea in the 70's, with all the Jetson-style people-tubes, but nowadays it's just not working any more - narrow, stupidly designed passenger access, oddly positioned passport and customs, its just a mess. T2 A through D are like Greyhound bus terminals, just ugly and badly organised.

3. BOS Terminal E Arrivals - what a total f*ck up. If your flight isn't the first on the ground, you have to wait ON BOARD, before being allowed off to QUEUE TO GET INTO THE FIS HALL, then you are allowed to join the queue for FIS, which can take up to an hour - all the while there are 4 booths open, and 20 idle useless FIS staff wandering around in the background studiously avoiding eye contact in case they get summoned to actually sit in a booth and DO THEIR DAMN JOB !

4. Which brings me to FIS - talk about the surly rabid Guardians of Hell ! SMILE dammit - it may never bloody happen ! We are visitors to your country, TRY and make it seem like you don't want us just to die on the spot and save you the trouble of having to lift that heavy rubber stamp.

5. Delta Airlines transatlantic - those 763's, time they were retired. Old, shabby, zero facilities plus the danger of severe brain injury from the giant yet invisible TV screens suspended from the ceiling. Old trouty crews, perfunctory customer service and $5 for a drink - HELLLOOO !!

6. Luton Airport - what a dump. Great tin shed for check-in, tatty rabbit warren through security, old vomit-stained carpeting, naf grimy tat-shops endless more bloody rabbit warren to get to the cattle-pen gates - no jetways (welcome to the bloody Stone Age !) - blow it up and start over.

7. Any rail journey in the UK. It's all just bollocks.

8. Any US/Caribbean/Mexican cruise - overdressed clueless idiot passengers, mindless unimaginative itineraries, crowded overcommercialised and indistinguishable ports with any local beauty spot destroyed by 1500 overweight blue-haired Bettys wandering around in pink t-shirts with kittens on taking thousands of photos of each other. Stay in Florida honey, leave the rest of the world alone !

9. MXP. Much as I love Italy, I will never travel through MXP again. Not just a lack of customer service, more an active resentment of customers as a tedious and regrettable interruption to their coffee time. That combined with Alitalia's legendary inability to find their own arse with both hands and a torch make this one to avoid !

10. BKK - install some travellators for God's sake ! Anyone who has arrived at the QF/BA lounge dehydrated and suffering from heat exhaustion following the 2km trek from the gate will agree with me.

User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 16876 times:

"Why they continue the flights are a mystery to me, but from what I understand, they are packed every day and they make a bucket of money"

They are packed every day, it's amazing! Btw, what's your friends' name (Station manager at LOS)? I actually met the station manager there in April but I can't remember his name. He actually saved my a$$ cause I missed my flight back to Europe since I arrived late to the airport (got there only 3 hours before...) and he was able to find a place for me on the next flight, which was also packed, so I assume someone must have been very pissed that day at the airport!

Carp aunque ganes o pierdas ...
User currently offlineBaw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2028 posts, RR: 27
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 16868 times:

Hmmm...FIS in the USA. Yes, you are all criminals until you pass the horrific security screening when you enter the country. Oh, and by the way, you get to do it again when you leave. What I don't really understand is what all the bitching is about. US immigration and customs is a whole lot better than they USED to be, in which EVERYONE was subject to a body search for carrying an apple in your handbag.

Oh, and let's talk about MXP. It is a constant amazement to me how people can gripe and moan about that airport. I have traveled through that airport more times than I can count and I NEVER have had anyone treat me with disrepect or disdain. In fact, on my last trip, when I had trouble standing in line at the check in counter for my short flight to Rome, the check in agent saw me in trouble and had someone bring me over a wheelchair before my legs collapsed (too much back pain from flying). I got taken to the front of the line, wheeled through security and down to the aircraft and I didn't need to ask. Lastly, yes we know MXP is notorious for fog. I just go have an espresso, read the newspaper and check with the gate agent every once in a while and tell her/him I appreciate what they do...(which is true, by the way), when the irregular op comes, I usually don't have to wait too long before I am on my way.

I guess I just love the Italians....and they love me back. OK by me. We love them in America too!

I guess being nice to these people does pay, considering everyone else tends to treat them like crap. Makes me wonder why I get upgraded so much flying from Italy....

David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 16875 times:

One BIG Gate To My Aviation Hell
-All of OAK.
-Ryan Air.
-SFO-Milbrae BART System.
-UA 737's row 6, now window.
-The World of WN.
-UA744 Longhaul.
-That Damn Baby In The Back Of The A/c.
-CCR Tower on Fridays between 1p.m.-8p.m. (Controllers a bit of a @-bag)
-That Old, Overpaid TSA Guy At The Exit That Looks At You And Says "Welcome Home" To Try To Make You Feel Proud To Be An American
-The old Willy Brown Welcome To SF thing that would play over and over and over and over and over again at SFO Customs.
-Asking a taxi driver at SFO to take you 1.3 miles to your grandmother's house. (So s/he can get $5 and wait in a LONGGGGG line back at the airport)
-AA Flight Attendants esp. Betty (yes that's her name) who was number one on ORD-SJU who told me that she was going to call the TSA if I didn't sit during meal service (I was allowing the passenger next to me to stand to get to the bathroom, I had a whole cabin to stand up for me)
-OAK Center, trying to tip toe it across the bay to Monterey while passing SFO airspace and dodging 744's that are trying to line up for the 28 runways.
-All UA "Express Check-In" Centers.

And yes PRG taxi drivers are scary.

Take Care,


"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
User currently offlineBaw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2028 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 16843 times:

Damn straight! Especially about OAK Center. The 747s you are dodging are lining up for the queue for the single file approach when there is a cloud over the San Mateo bridge. You haven't got a prayer of getting across the Bay on those days. If you are flying to MRY from the east bay, better to go around, e.g. the grand tour, down to Hollister, then across to MRY. Its longer, but you have no altitude restrictions once you get past SJC.

About Willie...the airport is his baby. Some day that new international terminal will be named for him. Then when you come into SFO, you can really say that you've been welcome to Willie's place...that the taxpayers of SFO will be paying for the next twenty years....a great facility with no runways.

David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 16845 times:

BAW176 - Re: "US immigration and customs is a whole lot better than they USED to be".

Really ? I've noticed very little change in the general attitude in the last 15 years of travelling to the US. It is a source of amazement to me that the service industry in the US has managed to perfect the not-quite-genuine "I-care-for-your-happiness-in-a-deep-and-personal-way" service ethic, to the extent that wherever you go and whatever type of business you interact with, you get it. Except the FIS. OK they are not a business, you don't pay them (maybe it would be better if you did), but would it kill them to be just a bit nicer ? Why do I have to feel intimidated by these people, I am not a criminal, I have a visa all nice and legal, see ! I am bringing business and tourist dollars to your country, I have 200 other countries to choose from, but I chose the USA - don't make me regret my buying decision.  Smile

As for MXP - I love Italy (I live right next door and am a frequent visitor), I love the Italian people generally - but my experiences at MXP have been universally fraught with bad planning, lack of assistance and a general incompetence that is just offputting. I'm not surprised that AZ is in such poor shape. I'm glad you've had better experiences than I have, but they've had the benefit of the doubt once too many times in my book.

User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5549 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 16804 times:

You are all WAY too picky - except for the guy who hates Boston. He is absolutely right.

I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
25 Baw716 : JGPH1A- A couple of points: re: Service ethic in USA...I agree with you. Didn't used to be this way, but we haven't quite figured out that the custome
26 Post contains images Starlionblue : 7. Any rail journey in the UK. It's all just bollocks. Except the Heathrow Express, which to the constant amazement of everyone, especially Britons, w
27 Post contains images Nwfltattendant : This one goes out to all the flight attendants..... (number of faces equal minimum crew on the NW A319/A320) My aviation hell is ... (in no particular
28 Swissgabe : - US Customs - Flights with freeseating (and people RUNNING for their seat) - Flight delays because of ATC - Boarding the LX flight at BEN for ZRH at
29 Post contains images Mozart : Something that didn't get mentioning yet, which I am surprised (maybe the BEY/Lebanon community on this forum forgets about the dark side of travellin
30 Post contains images Mfamguy79 : UGH . . . how about any airport in India!
31 Dairbus : Not as good as the previous posts but here is my personal "Gate of Hell". Immigration/passport control at Delta's T3 (old Worldport). Narrow corridors
32 LifelinerOne : Why do I have to feel intimidated by these people, I am not a criminal, I have a visa all nice and legal, see ! I am bringing business and tourist dol
33 Dtwclipper : 1. Connecting at AMS and asking a KL employee a question knowing the answer will be "that is not possible". 2. The "old" gate C-27 at DTW. 3. ORD traf
34 Post contains images Ei2ksea : LifelinerOne, my sister had the very same experience but because she had an Irish passport and was flying FRA-JFK with DL. She was hassled on arrival
35 United_Fan : My only gripes are : Jetstream J31/41's from hell - these planes have no business being 3 abreast. Having to wait 2 minutes with the a/c off in GSO i
36 SmithAir747 : Car rental in Florida, especially from Alamo: A case in point--when Mom and I travelled to Florida for a cruise vacation together, we arrived at MCO a
37 CrossChecked : nwfltattendant, you think doing the C209s in to the United Kingdom is bad??? We have to do the same thing when we fly in to America. Count every singl
38 Mozart : SmithAir747, I wonder what I am more suspicious about: "foreign-born" car rental agents (I guess you try to suggest that it is the fact that they are
39 Ybacpa : In no particular order: MEM Regional Jets Middle seats Middle management bottomfeeders whom insist they get upgraded, even though they are #47 on the
40 Bobnwa : SmithAir747, Couldn't you have said no to the insurance? Exactly how were you forced?
41 Mats : 1. The *** T S A *** 2. International Arrivals at Cincinnati, Atlanta, or Cleveland: customs is in a secure concourse, so one has to wait in a lengthy
42 Aacun : UA 777222: Some people dont have a sence of anything when they get up there. And if its bad for a pax. not to use their common sence, worse off for a
43 Soups : Baw716, AZ operate MXP-LOS-ACC-MXP and NOT MXP-ACC-LOS-ACC-MXP my list 1- Beirut airport----> Rude staff and Weird take off times 2- Lagos-----> Last
44 United_Fan : In Bobnwa's defence,I was charged for a full tank (return car empty) without being asked in FLL with Alamo. I didn't realize this until I read my con
45 BestWestern : My Top 10 worst all revolve around queueing Atlanta international arrivals -queue for INS Atlanta international arrivals -queue to re-check bags Atlan
46 Flying Belgian : - CDG T1 - Transfering from T4 to T1/2/3 in LHR - US security checks - That ugly carpet in all UK airports (who won the contract ??) - Reaching JFK fr
47 Post contains images FA4B6 : nwfltattendant! I nearly choked I was laughing so hard when I read what you wrote! thats awesome! i have a laundry list of my own! lol I guess it does
48 Ua777222 : Some people don't have a sence of anything when they get up there. And if its bad for a pax. not to use their common sence, worse off for a F/A. Some
49 Garnetpalmetto : My list (in order, to boot!) 10) Having to run across the entire length of an airport to make the flight you're connecting to 9) That insufferably sno
50 Vimanav : 1. Trying to enter DEL's IGI Airport at 2300hrs 2. Trying to get your baggage xrayed before check-in at DEL/IGI at 2300hrs 3. Standing at the check-in
51 Post contains images CVG777 : In no particular order: B1900 flights on Florida summer afternoons -You aren't going anywhere, there is a severe thunderstorm in the way, and well, we
52 Post contains images Ordinduaflyer : Nwfltattendant -- I absolutely loved that list! I don't have too many 'gates of hell' -- but topping my list has to be flying during the summer months
53 Post contains images JetBlast : Welcome to the devil's house.....the security line at BWI! JetBlast @ BWI
54 PIA777 : The baggage claim at Karachi and transferring at Gatwick or LHR. PIA777
55 TR763 : - Customs at MIA - MIA - Aerolineas 742 Economy class - AA 763 - Bag claim at GRU - Iberia´s F/A on int´l routes - the lady didn´t want to explain
56 Meteorologist : 1. ORD ORD ORD ORD, anytime of the year, regardless of the weather nearby. I'm a meteorologist and they think I'm stupid...as if the jackass gate agen
57 Soups : Oh i forgot to mention the long walks UP and DOWN at stansted airport when catching a FR flight or EZY
58 Post contains images Airbazar : BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS BOS INS P.S. I've been a permanent resident for 12 years, yet, made feel like
59 AirGabon : 1- Monrovia Airport (ROB) 2- Freetown Airport (FNA) 3- Khartoum Airport (KRT) 4- NDjamena Airport in Chad (NDJ) 5- Kinshasa Airport (FIH) 6- Bangui Ai
60 LH477 : mumbai...mumbai...mumbai....... Atleast it's not New Delhi........
61 Soups : Hey AirGabon i think u listed all the airports in Africa LOL
62 Mozart : Hey AirGabon, to go by your list, Brazzaville, Kano and Addis Abeba must be great, as they don't feature on your African list. Or would they be on ran
63 Post contains images Jacobin777 : While I agree with lots of comments here, except for PIA777..nobody really knows how bad it gets at KHI... Having electricity go out 4 times in 20 min
64 VS346 : UA777222, you hit it on the nose for me, with that TSA guy saying "welcome home" It rubs me wrong everytime I hear it, and I've had the misfortune of
65 RRFan : Gate 22 Heathrow Terminal 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 32 miles to baggage claim and immigration. You can see people who left their gates earlier in the week still
66 ClipperNo1 : I've been travelling through LHR mostly in the past and I got to say I'm getting used to being squeezed into old shitty busses, standing in 'queue of
67 StearmanNut : Raleigh - Durham: US Customs usually sees fit to have only one agent on duty for fully loaded overseas flights. DFW: Same thing. Heathrow Customs and
68 AA777 : 1.) CAI. Absolutley horrific. Truly, it is the story of Egypt. You dont have to go anywhere to get the true taste of what Egypt is like -- complete ch
69 SmithAir747 : Response to BobNWA & Mozart: I'm warning you about what happened to me, because after the trip, when we talked to our State Farm agent about what happ
70 Jaysit : Mumbai airport may smell like an urinal, but of late its been efficient at processing pax in and out, thus minimizing one's exposure to said urine. My
71 Starlionblue : Flying_Belgian, kudos to you for this one: That ugly carpet in all UK airports (who won the contract ??) Seriously, what's wrong with wood or tile/sto
72 Post contains images Stealthpilot : Hahaha I wouldn’t say ‘any airport’ in India but certainly a lot of them!!!!! Ok……. Make that most of them…. I also wont pick out Mumbais
73 STLGph : I'm surprised no one has mentioned New York LaGuardia. Just an absolute horrid place to get stuck at for any delay.
74 Bhill : Getting out of BOS on the surface streets....'nuff said
75 Jasepl : Anything to do with DFW is particularly nasty. And LHR's not too far behind! BOM - departing's usually a breeze, but arrival can be hell. AAnything th
76 Redngold : The commuter terminal at PHL. When you're on crutches and your delayed flight has come in exactly five minutes before your scheduled departure on a pu
77 ERAUPilotATC : ATL at night. My flight EWR-ATL was delayed 8 hours due to WX. Got into ATL around 2am. I had to change my connecting flight to MCO to get back to sch
78 Erj145lr : -Tamarindo airport, costa rica -Frankfurt after an 8 hour flight when you are half asleep trying to get to a connecting flight on Lufthansa! -chicago
79 Ozglobal : SmithAir747: I'm sure you're a reasonable guy, but have you any idea how your vocabulary can come across? As I mentioned in an earlier post, few Engl
80 Boo25 : Baggage Reclaim in Orlando sucks. US Immigration has always sucked - ridiculous waiting times after a long flight. Atlanta Anything , like an assault
81 Dtremit : Oh, come on Bhill -- the surface streets are half the fun! Why take the Ted Williams when you can go up to Ruhveeuh?
82 Post contains images KEno : RYANAIR. Despite their claim that 95% or so of their flights are on time, mine was never. My experience with them :- - delay on ALL flights that I too
83 Post contains images Nwfltattendant : CrossChecked - As a matter of fact we have to do the same thing upon arrival in the UK, counting everything, and breaking down into exact types of wha
84 Post contains images Starlionblue : I don't know why anyone makes such a big deal out of the INS. They are about on par with any other immigrations agent I have ever had the displeasure
85 Eric777 : -Am I the only one who has issues with SJU? That is the only airport in which I have missed connections. I also have lost luggage connecting there goi
86 Aeronuts : Most of the airports have to do with congested or capacity issue. Try ANY China airport or port of entry during and right after SARS. Talk about "Gate
87 F9Fan : My "Gates of Hell" IAD - Whomever decided those people mover busses were a good idea should have to wait on them. Bitchy passengers - OK, what part of
88 Kanebear : My "gates of hell" - CRP during it's remodeling... when the security line snakes around from the *SINGLE* checkpoint, through the checkin area and OUT
89 MikeTheActuary : My contribution: MCI when you're delayed. It's bad enough that the rent-a-cops are overzealous in their duties; however, when your flight out is delay
90 Ken777 : Long Haul Flights: Sitting next to a guy who takes a bath on the first day of the month regardless if he needs it or not - and you're flying on the 18
91 Airbazar : F9Fan, I'm not sure how much experience you have with babies but I just traveled to Europe and back with my 4 month old and not peep came out of him o
92 FRA-Runway : Those are mine: - AF FA: making passenger counts with that dam clicking thing. again and again and again. After 4 tries, still not sure if they made a
93 Post contains images United_Fan : The DH gates @ IAD when they were still United Express . Ceiling tiles missing,filthy carpets,filthy windows,flies everywhere. Hell,IAD in general is
94 Post contains images Airplanetire : I've been fortunate enough to avoid bad things while flying for the most part, or maybe I just don't care, but I still have a few. -being boarded to f
95 Post contains images Jet-lagged : Here are mine: - Getting blasted with CNN/Bloomberg at the gates in the U.S. - United’s concourse at O’Hare during busy times – no place to sit.
96 Ual777contrail : Anything other than UAL, all other carriers suck, well not BA. And for some of you, I would take any US customs over LHR,CDG,HKG,PEK, those are a bear
97 Ktachiya : As for me, arriving into NRT during rush-hour (it makes me dizzy where the plane is going around around and round, you wonder when its on the approach
98 GKirk : Dalaman, small yet overcrowded when 3 or 4 UK charter flights are in! Lucky I hear they are making a new terminal for International flights
99 Ozglobal : Ual777contrail, If you have an easy time entering the US compared with entering other countries, had it occured to you that it may be because you are
100 Macc : worst ever: CCS. sorry to say, but the airport tax is a joke. maybe some one from venezuela can help with the exact amount. was there in april and th
101 Delboy : I have to agree about Lagos, what a $hithole, corrupt as hell. Last time I was there it cost be 12US$ to get from entrance to aircraft! Malaga on a S
102 Post contains images B4real : My irritants and "Gates of Hell": -Dumb Passengers. At least their not rude (mentioned later), they just don't know better. They have not travelled mu
103 Sabena332 : The unchallenged no. 1 for me in terms of the worst airport is: Tehran Mehrabad Airport. I have never been to a bigger shithole in my whole life, even
104 BOS2LAF : From my own experiences: 10.) Being stuck in an ATR on the tarmac, frying in the Puerto Rican sun at SJU waiting for the bus to arrive to take us the
105 Westindian425 : Well, I'm glad someone mentioned SJU -- my #1 reason for not flying AA when going to the Caribbean from New York City. Give me BWIA or Air Jamaica any
106 B741 : YWG, it has to be, if and only when "hell freezes over".
107 Iakobos : Entertaining thread for sure... Air Gabon is right on the point, but he apparently did not travel extensively in Africa (yet). From place 1 to rank 10
108 Chiguire : worst ever: CCS. sorry to say, but the airport tax is a joke. maybe some one from Venezuela can help with the exact amount. Was there in April and the
109 Post contains images SXFAN : Finally I will follow Iakobos on one of the threads Geia sou Iakove 1)I second his view on TIA / LATI though I believe it is still a dreadful airport!
110 CXA330300 : 1.US Immigration 2.CDG 3. Terminal 8, JFK 4. US Air Terminal, LGA 5. Shanghai Hongqiao Airport 6. Beijing Airport 7. Israeli Immigration 8. YVR/Canadi
111 Iakobos : Geia sou Vassili, LATI Tirana: is the runway still made of hexagonal stones or did they put some asphalt on it ? No joke, the pilots (Austrian on F28
112 TonyBurr : Immigration at YYZ, Canada. We are not all trying to sneak into the country. Long lines ( esp the AC terminal).
113 N229nw : 1.) IAD: haven't been there for years so maybe it has gotten better, but there's really no excuse for an airport this comparatively small to be so poo
114 BAViscount : 1. Arriving at RDU on AA's "Flagship" service from LGW. It seems that the arrival of that flight takes the staff by surprise every time, even though i
115 Toncontin : Approach and landing in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. Ask any pilot.
116 ERJ170 : 1. Arriving at RDU on AA's "Flagship" service from LGW. It seems that the arrival of that flight takes the staff by surprise every time, even though i
117 Macc : chiguire: (instruction for CCS) thats exactly what i had to do there, thanks for the list. now, can you imagine the fun at the first security check, t
118 Post contains links and images LH600 : Sabena332: The unchallenged no. 1 for me in terms of the worst airport is: Tehran Mehrabad Airport. I have never been to a bigger shithole in my whole
119 Aa777jr : 1. CDG-the entire aiport is nasty 2. the cig smoke at MAD 3. T3 at LHR 4. DFW-i will do anything to avoid a connection here 5. losing MRTC on AA 6. la
120 AirGabon : Aa777jr: why "landings on AF flights"? For CDG maybe CDG 1, CDG 2A, 2B and 2D but not 2C, 2F and 2E (lol).
121 LY4XELD : 4. DFW-i will do anything to avoid a connection here Personally, I would caveat this with "if there is a drop of rain/ice/snow in the DFW region" sin
122 BAViscount : 10. camping out at LGW because the tube craped out But the tube doesn't go to LGW...you'd have to make it all the way in to either London Bridge or Vi
123 Post contains images Aa777jr : The only three flights I ever took with AF, all the landings were extremely rough. My mom almost yacked coming home from CDG-LIS and she says she's ne
124 FlyKCRW : UAX F gates at ORD- this is as close to hell on earth as it gets. UAX G gates at IAD are a close second.
125 Ctbarnes : OK. Here's mine (in no particular order), based on my experience: 1. Lagos Airport. Everything said above is true. It redefines nasty. 2. Flying in a
126 Mozart : I think some pattern starts to show here, and without counting, I believe these places are the "top hell places" that people agree on are: 1. US immig
127 SailorOrion : I think ORD belongs in the "willing to improve" category because of their master plan. I haven't been to Lagos before so I cannot judge, and LHR can g
128 MissedApproach : I'm always amazed that at Frankfurt, Rome or Milan, where I don't even speak the language, I can get to my gate without getting lost or having to ask
129 Ozglobal : Current unofficial league table based on all replies to date: 1) US Immigration 2) CDG(except 2F), especially if a transfer is involved (20% chance o
130 Zippyjet : Here, at BWI, its not the Gates or airport of hell but, carnage on the interstates leading here. The Baltimore and Washington areas boast some of the
131 Mozart : Ozglobal, thanks for the counting effort....
132 Francoflier : About MXP, not that I have a lot of experience going through there, but if you ever have to disembark a charter flight don't forget to pack your trekk
133 Post contains images Airtangora : Jet-lagged said on post 95... "But hey, wouldn't we all rather be dealing with our own versions of Hell than be home wishing we were traveling or some
134 Post contains images Starlionblue : Ok I have to bash a couple of these Having to use the lav real bad only to be delayed on the ground. Not to diminish your particular hell but I have n
135 ToxicMegacolon : The technically impossible task of catching a connection if your inbound or outbound flight lands in concourse A or B, at MSP, and your connection is
136 ERJ170 : A few I have... *Flying UAX and getting assigned an aisle seat near the front, only to find they have renamed you Rosa and changed your seat to the ba
137 Post contains images Ozglobal : "6. landings on AF flights" - Aa777jr You're right. I don't think I've ever landed on an AF 777 where both main gear touched down at the same time. It
138 SLC1 : MY HELL *Any time I connect (or even fly) on HP *Getting a seat/flight on WN (i'm always the last on even 2 hrs before) As for actual "gates of hell":
139 Delta767300ER : In no particular order: MEM JFK (Although I love it) LGA HOU MIA (What a dump!) MCO (Security Lines, Friggin Tourists) PHL Night Flying Airbus 5 hour
140 Bubbinski : Okay, here's my list: 1. PHX Sky Harbor security line on a recent Monday morning while flying WN back to SLC. Line stretched way out past the gift sho
141 Post contains images Dtremit : 2. The "old" gate C-27 at DTW. I assume you're all talking about gate C-27 in the old NW terminal. It was not in fact at DTW, but rather involved a gr
142 Usairways16bwi : well i may not travel enough because ive never really had that much trouble..but the one thing that's hell( and i think many of you will agree), is ha
143 Post contains images Luxair : Any place where the US Customs are awaiting us, the "aliens" to enter their territorium
144 Post contains images TupolevTu154 : Terminal 4 at LHR And when US immigration officers say "what is the purpose of your visit to the United States of America, where are you staying, what
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