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Should People Pay To Use Toilets In-flight?  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5927 times:

After consuming copious amounts of alcoholic beverages last night, and consequently frequently visiting the lavatory, I pondered the idea of making people pay to use the toilets on flights with low-cost airlines. Now, in the UK you sometimes have to pay a price (like 20p) to use the toilets in train stations and in some town centres, so why not in-flight? It would reduce the cost of purchasing toilet things, like toilet paper, soap and water, while being another form of revenue (I am not sure whether it would reduce the cleaning costs, as I am unsure about how often they are cleaned, like daily, twice-daily, or whatever). As there would be no viable alternative while in-flight, except peeing in your pants, on the floor or over your next-door neighbour, you could even charge, say, 1 GBP for the ‘privilege’ of going to the toilet (the joys of a monopolistic situation). What does everything think? Actually, I KNOW WHAT EVERYONE WILL THINK, so let the debate start.  Wink/being sarcastic


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5913 times:

in Holland you have to pay fr toilets in the clubs too


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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24938 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5910 times:

No chance. Paying to use toilets onboard is only an idea Ryanair could come up with  Big grin

Ryanair - Fly from an airport in the middle of nowhere - Pay for a piss/dump  Big grin



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

You gotta be kidding . . . right, this is a joke right? Humor? British Humor? Right???  Big thumbs up


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5886 times:

'In Holland you have to pay fr toilets in the clubs too.'

Ahhh!!!! So in some UK train stations, town centres and shopping centres, plus in some clubs in the Netherlands. So it would seem that the culture of paying to go to the toilet is becoming increasingly common...



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5885 times:

I don't think it's a good idea - how often does it happen to you that you've not got the precise change for something, and if the toilet only "accepts" (for lack of a better word) specific coins, that could cause some serious problems... at least for those without the correct change...  Big grin

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5883 times:

FR will prefer to have a paying passenger occupying a seat instaed of someone waiting to collect money. or if they use the coin operated thing, people wont bother to get to the loo as they can hold it till they land at the airfield


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User currently offlineSXFAN From Greece, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5881 times:

Only a Briton could think of that. Big grin
It is irritating to see pay&pee toilets in London and in England generaly and I am opposed against such a thing happening in every part of the world. Angry
Please mean British people do not contaminate the rest of the world with such ideas!!!!
And Soups in English clubs you will have to pay as well.
Cheers!!!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5872 times:

'FR will prefer to have a paying passenger occupying a seat instaed of someone waiting to collect money. or if they use the coin operated thing, people wont bother to get to the loo as they can hold it till they land at the airfield.'

Yep, then you'd need to purchase even less items for the toilets and if no-one ever used them you'd have to clean them even less often...



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

i paid to go to loos in France, Turkey, Holland, USA and many more. i never paid in clubs in uk (i am in UK by the way).


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User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5868 times:
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When I worked at XJ, I heard a story about a woman who was so disgusted by a dirty lav, that she decided to urinate on the seat. Yes, that is gross and absurd. Start charging for that "luxury", especially on a low-cost, and watch the sickening creativity that might ensue!  Nuts


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User currently offlineBuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5865 times:

Probably not a good idea on the plane. I'd probably would have pissed myself by the time I found the correct change in the correct currency to take that piss.

Unless if an airline is willing to have their flight attendents patrol the loo areas to collect and change money, plus to deter ones who haven't paid, it's a silly issue.

But as said above, MOL may just do it. I wonder how much money he'd make off it, though.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5860 times:

'I paid to go to loos in France, Turkey, Holland, USA and many more. i never paid in clubs in uk (i am in UK by the way).'

I have also never paid to use toilets in the UK clubs.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5851 times:

'I'd probably would have pissed myself by the time I found the correct change in the correct currency to take that piss.'

Then you'd face a 35 GBP/45 EUR clean-up charge.  Wink/being sarcastic

'I wonder how much money he'd make off it, though.'

Not necessarily just how much he would earn, but also SAVE.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3217 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5846 times:

Have you guys ever considered the not so pleasent issue of Airsickness?

Do you really want somebody throwing up all over the place because they didn't have any change? Not a good idea.



User currently offlineEi2ksea From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

Lets hope that Michael o'Leary isnt looking at this thread, you're putting bad ideas in his head Pe@rson!!

Anyhow maybe people would pay for a slightly bigger loo with some of that fancy shmancy quilted velvet loo roll? Tap that consumer surplus!!



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5840 times:

Yep, LH! They'd be a 35 GBP/45 EUR clean-up charge.  Wink/being sarcastic


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSXFAN From Greece, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5839 times:

If you haven't payed for using the toilets of a club in U.K. then you are mean indeed since in almost every club there is a guy that is taking care of the toilet (gives you paper, soap & perfumes)
Now you probably understand what I mean ya?


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5837 times:

'Lets hope that Michael o'Leary isnt looking at this thread, you're putting bad ideas in his head Pe@rson!!'

I'm his evil son anyway.

Innovation all the way!!!!!!!!!!  Wink/being sarcastic



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineMrNiji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5762 times:

After consuming copious amounts of alcoholic beverages last night, and consequently frequently visiting the lavatory, I pondered the idea of making people pay to use the toilets on flights with low-cost airlines.

Only you can be that strange.. you know, I thought of deporting you here to SIN and putting you ina prison for people getting drunk too often... that might help you in getting rid of your addiction and starting with potential business modells...

Don't you know the situation you have to p-- or s--t and do not have the coin?? How desparate it can be??? But as I know you, you might suggest MOL to introduce credit-card payment with a 20 % surcharge...


User currently offline747NUT From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5746 times:

I'm sure people will be finding new uses for airsick bags  Nuts


If it's not broken, don't fix it !
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5738 times:

LOL 747NUT.  Wink/being sarcastic

Mr N - just a 20% surcharge???  Sad :-P



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

"paid to go to loos in France, Turkey, Holland, USA and many more."

If the US is good in something, that's the availability of public toilets. Grocery stores, gas stations, any public buildings have FREE toilets! You can't find those coin-operated ones anywhere here. Mostly they are cleaner than in Europe, too. It is not only a necessity, it's also a way to get customers for your business. And still, you never have to feel quilty for not buying anything when using the facilities eg. a gas station, a supermarket or even a restaurant or bar.

One of the greatest American inventions after the telephone; a public restroom without the main entrance/exit door! You know the type where you enter the facility using a kind of S-shaped opening which blocks the direct view. This is especially handy at airports, when you have your carry-on to take care off, and any doors are a pain.

Public Toilets Around the World. Maybe I should write a book about those. The most disgusting ones I have experienced have been in Iran, China, and France.

Pay for toilets in airplanes???!!!! You must be out of your mind!


User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5698 times:

Me thinks Pe@rson spends WAY too much time drinking and on A-net  Big grin I find it strange that one doesn't normally tip bartenders in the Europe, but you have to or are 'highly recommended' to give a small tip to use the toilet. While there are some isolated situations where one has to or can tip to pay for the toilet in USA, often it is illegal by state laws, especially where public access. I am aware of the policies in many parts of Europe where a fee or 'tip' is policy and that pays for full time attendents to maintain the facility and to limit vandalism. In the USA, all places that serve food must offer access to their customers. They can restrict access to non-customers (espcecially in NY City). They also must offer for free facilities accessable to the handicapped were possible. This would also be illegal to do on an aircraft in the USA. Unfortuntally the limits on being able to pay for toilets limits the needed access to the general public in many places, especially in NYC. In NYC there has been a number of proposals to set up public toilets facilities on the sidewalks where one has to pay much like most of Europe. But fears of the facilities being used by prostitutes, the homeless, being vandilized, the need of all facilities to have handicapped access and just the idea of a toilet stand in the middle of the street just doesn't go over well in our still very puriticanal/victorian views as to body functions.

User currently offline747NUT From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

next they will be putting anti-hijack doors on lavs !?  Sad


If it's not broken, don't fix it !
25 Post contains images Bananaboy : If I was paying for the use of the toilets, then I would like a pro-rata refund on my seat, as I wont be using it for a small percentage of the flight
26 Pe@rson : In the UK, it would seem that it is becoming increasingly common, if not increasingly liked, that you pay to use toilets, especially in some train sta
27 Post contains images Flyibaby : Bad idea for a plane..but I will say that the restrooms in Belgium and in Czech Republic have great features..even the toliets are their own little ro
28 Bananaboy : I don't think that this could ever work. You have a choice... buy a coffee on board, or buy one before you board. If you need a slash at 35,000ft, the
29 747NUT : I can but imagine what people first thought when some airlines stopped serving ‘free’ (or, correctly, ‘pay-for-it-through-your-ticket’ ) food
30 Lufthansa : Actually somebody may be able to challenge this as some kind of illegal imprisonment....beling locked in a confined place that u cannot leave on deman
31 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : In Germany there are laws saying when you run a business and sell food and/or drinks to people AND offer them seating, you must offer a toilet free o
32 Post contains images Pe@rson : Hmm. Pay a quid to use the toilet or pee/shite yourself and pay a 35 GBP clean-up fee. Onto a winner... About about these nightclubs - if you didn't h
33 Planesarecool : It would probably lose them money, in the long run. People will try to not need the loo, therefore they wouldn't buy food and drink onboard, therefore
34 Lufthansa : What about turning away customers? I am there are some, such as myself that would just be insulted and therefore not pick that business if there was a
35 Post contains images Leskova : Airsicknessbag, I'm glad I have neighbors that don't mind if I make a bit of noise, because I had to laugh so hard when I read "Spontanentleerung" tha
36 Post contains images Pe@rson : "You gotta be kidding . . . right, this is a joke right? Humor? British Humor? Right???" Me? Never!
37 Post contains images Pilotpip : At what point does low cost go too far? I think you'd have a bigger problem with people loosing bodily function as mentioned. Then, you have 120 peopl
38 Lnglive1011yyz : Simple -- It's a fundamental human right. I'm sure there'd be laws against it. 1011yyz
39 Runway31 : Having read this thread I think a lot of people must have little handles sticking out their backs like a clockwork toy as they they have got wound up
40 Post contains images TW741 : how often does it happen to you that you've not got the precise change for something, and if the toilet only "accepts" (for lack of a better word) spe
41 Lufthansa : You know i bet ryanair all ready floated this idea but their lawyers said no.
42 Alcregular : I know us Brits have the saying 'spend a penny' but that is just taking the piss!
43 Post contains images Thrust : Uh...no? Why on Earth make a person pay to use a lav if it is on a flight like EWR-HKG, they are only at the beginning of the flight, the person has t
44 Post contains images Leskova : Hold it in for what, 22 hours? That is brutal torture That is just cruel to make a person pay to go to the bathroom. ... then again, during the later
45 Post contains images Pe@rson : Well, this has been one of the most entertaining threads for a long while - not least because virtually everyone thought the poster of this thread (oh
46 Post contains images Pilotpip : Pe@rson, Please don't drink and post! In all honesty though, it's a slow day at the FBO. This has been one of the most entertaining threads in a while
47 Fbgdavidson : Oh god. One more reason to avoid low cost carriers. Pay to check-in-luggage, pay for toilet...what next: charge for each step used to get onboard airc
48 Post contains images Springbok747 : No way, toilets should be free, I can't imagine paying money to take a piss! LOL!! But, here in Adelaide, there are free public toilets everywhere, ex
49 L410Turbolet : Pe@rson, you seriously think this bizzare idea of yours is "innovation"? Hey, why not get rid of the toilets completely and sell the pax empty PET bot
50 JumboJim747 : How would the airline charge (Pay per pee) or on liquid volume ? Hahhahah sorry guys had to put that in .
51 Post contains images OYRJA : That is absolutly nuts!!! People pay so much for a plane ticket. Shouldn't the be able to use the lavatory without paying for that as well?
52 Post contains images HAWK21M : Bad Idea. LCC are not that bad regds MEL
53 Karan69 : Not at all, they should not charge us for using toilets
54 ZKSUJ : Yeah, a stupid idea. You try telling an 8 year old kid or a disabled person travelling alone that they cant use the toilet because they have no money.
55 777ER : Paying to use the toilet, no way. You pay money for an air fare so you should expect to use the toilet without paying any more money. Unless your flyi
56 EZYAirbus : If you gonna charge people to piss they wont by the drinks onboard so they wouldnt need to piss, it wont work! Glenn
57 Flyer737sw : HAHA...If I had to pay to use the toilet on a plane, I would just take a dump on the seat next to me then move...I think it would be ridiculous... Kev
58 SlamClick : Yeah! And let us start charging for oxygen too. Charging for things on which life or safety depends is extortion pure and simple. You will survive a f
59 ZKSUJ : "If you gonna charge people to piss they wont by the drinks onboard so they wouldnt need to piss, it wont work!" Or you could get some Weirdo that doe
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