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User currently offlineMonorail From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 631 posts, RR: 4
Posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8547 times:

The title pretty much covers the question. What changes would you make if you had the authority? To the airport itself, but let's not include new airline routes
More retaurants?
More windows?
Change parking structures?
Aesthetics inside the terminal?
Or anything else?

Playoffs? Don't talk about playoffs!
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User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8527 times:

I would demolish the whole dang thing and build something state of the art....I am talking about LAX....but in realitiy I can't really complain with the new project

User currently offlineAZjetgeek From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 235 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8514 times:

My home airport is PHX. I've flown into and out of this airport since I was just a little boy (I was probably 3 or 4, but the earliest I can recall was when I was 5). I had the "pleasure" of actually flying out of old Terminal 1, which has since met the wrecking ball. I also recall when Terminal 2 opened. It was such a marked improvement over No. 1.

Unfortunately, it appears that the Sky Harbor people and City of Phoenix have become so enamored with Terminal 4, which houses HP, WN, BA and WestJet, among others, that they only seem to make improvements there while ignoring Terminals 2 and 3. Terminal 4 is fantastic and one of the best I've ever flown out of or into. Unfortunately, there are marked differences at 2 and 3, especially Term 2.

I believe the following improvements should be made at Terminal 2 so that it could absorb some of the traffic from Term 3:

1. Enlarge gate lounges. Very crowded and uncomfortable.
2. Add more restaurants and other amenities.
3. Add more gates. Between 8 and 12 more would be a good start.

By expanding Term 2, Sky Harbor might be able to shift some of the airlines with minimal service in and out of PHX. These include Midwest, Frontier, and ATA. Even JetBlue could be accommodated from Term 2 if such improvements were made, unless B6 has plans for major expansion.

Another improvement I'd like to see is adding more international carriers. At present, BA is the only major one flying into and out of PHX. Lufthansa cut out PHX several months ago. I'd like to see Qantas, Virgin, and Aer Lingus join the gang at Sky Harbor.

Long live the RJ!
User currently offlineMkeflyer717 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 431 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8511 times:

MKE has recently built a new parking structure, started renovating concourse C, and is in the process of widening a few taxiways, but to improve MKE even more I would extend runway 1R/19L to handle at least rj's or even some 717s so we would have 2 parallel runways. Also I would want to build a new concourse southwest of concourse E (maybe 8-10 gates) and renovate the international gate area to handle the increasing amount of charters from Mexico and the Caribbean. Lastly I would make another viewing area to make watching planes much easier at MKE.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8507 times:

IAD is getting a bit of an overhaul right now-and its great now,but if theres anything i need its a cinnabon place in concourse B

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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8505 times:

Bring the whole damn thing down and re-build from scratch.

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 12169 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8501 times:

Wow, great timing for this topic, have just finished redesigning my local airport (PLH) as part of a University portfolio. Below is how the airfield currently looks, it is owned by Sutton Harbour Holdings, who also own Air Southwest;

Main Changes
  • Closure of runway 06/24

  • Extend runway 13/31 to the East from 1161m to 1500m

  • Construct a new terminal and aprons parallel with runway 13/31 capable of handling four RJ100 sized aircraft

  • Multistory car park linked to the terminal by covered walkway

  • New approach road underneath runway extension linking to B3432

  • Duelling of the B3432 between the A38 Devon Expressway and the A386

  • Demolish current hanger and construct larger structure on same site to accomodate 3 RJ100 sized aircraft along with full maintainance facilities

  • Create cargo ramp on the former threshold of runway 06

  • Relocate flying school and executive aviation services to the West of the airfield, next to the A386

  • For those (most) of you who have never been to Plymouth, this map might explain some of that: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=50.4242&lon=-4.1097&scale=25000&icon=x

    Currently Plymouth airport is served by Air Southwest and Air Wales, flying to;
    London Gatwick

    This uses a mix of ATR42s and DH8-311s, other visitors to the airport are D228s, D328s, F50s and the occasional BAe146 on diplomatic buisness. Loads on all flights are restricted due to the short runway, the extension would allow aircraft such as the ATR72, 146/RJ series, EMB135/145, DHC8-400 or other aircraft of similar size to depart with a decent or full load. My intention is to attract BA back to the airport and other carriers such as Aer Arran, FlyBe, Aurigny Air Services, Iberia and Britt Air (choice to the very popular ferry service to Bilbao/Roscoff) amongst others.

    Currently the A386 road to the west of the airfield is being rerouted to allow for a 90m safety area, required to be in place by 1st January 2005, works are currently running about a month behind scheduld and can be seen in the shot below.

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    In reality though, something is going to have to be done soon about either relocating the airport or enlarging the existing one, one multinational company has already pulled out of Plymouth stating the appauling transport links as a contributing factor, and two other companies have backtracked from relocating here due to the same reason. One French company employing about 300 people is now almost certain to leave after Air Southwest failed to announce Paris as one of their new destinations.

    Well, I can but dream I suppose Big thumbs up

    Dan Smile/happy/getting dizzy

    ...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
    User currently offlineSE210Caravelle From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 258 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8483 times:

    I live near Ohare International and it it's self is a pretty good airport. Especially the United terminal which is designed very nicely by the somewhat famous architect Helmut Jahn. It includes a modern design with cool light works etc, etc. I am sure most of you have been there! It's just to bad that United can't be as nice as their home terminal!  Crying

    Anyway if I could improve the airport in whole (not just the United terminal) I would actually do very little. Of course this is all assuming of an unlimited budget:

    Have a large observation deck with a panorama view located above the main terminal that would allow passengers to view planes departing, landing and taxing. It would be enclosed by large plane glass windows and use the same blue metal infustructure that the United Airlines terminal uses. It would be sound proof, air conditioned or heated, decorated nicely with lounges. In the center would be a decent resturaunt. It would be easily accesible from all parts of the airport and would also allow people viewing the planes to log onto the ATC radio communication! Of course for the convience of people using the airport you would be able to hear when your flight would be boarding by announcements made over the PA system!

    A state of the art exhibit in the airport that would highlight the great moments of flying and monumental times in flying. It would include photos, computers, movies interactive features, a chance to learn how a plane flys, a interactive flight simulator (where you choose the plane you want to fly) and an actual plane inside the building. It would be located near the airport and would be accessed either by it's -- the exhibits -- main entrance or an underground walkway that would lead from ORD to the exhibit. This walkway would be designed as a runway with runways lights and signs and would be dark. The exhibit would idealy be free!

    Finally there would be more gate seating! Instead of the ugly blue, leather chairs there would be white lounge chairs which reclined slighty. In the seats there would be a power-port for a laptop! There would be more TV's which showed differant channels (not just the usual CNN channel they play) and lastly there would be an area for children.

    Not going to happen... but it's nice to dream.  Big grin

    SE210Caravelle  Smile

    User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13864 posts, RR: 17
    Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8476 times:

    My 'home' airport, and who's code is part of my screen name here - EWR - has plans for major renovations for Terminal B in the next 5 years. There has been extensive changes done to Terminal C over the years too. Terminal A will be due for renovations/revisions in about a decade. EWR has it's monorail/light rail system connecting all the terminals, some parking, rental cars lots and to mainline rail lines to NYC and Phildelphia.
    Of course, EWR could use a second main runway parallel to the ones there today, and sufficiently spaced to allow closer and tigher in/out of flights, especially when the weather is bad. This is pretty much a no go as the area around the airport is already been heavily developed, with the NJ Turnpike taking up the most sutiable area many years ago. I would also put in more and cheaper parking, especially short and long term with more fequent and expanded bus services. There has been extensive expansions of parking, with new garages in the last several years, but it isn't enough. I would love a free or low fee 'spotters zone' within the airport property, and not be subject to the whims of local cops.

    User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31875 posts, RR: 54
    Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8466 times:

    Bring the whole damn thing down and re-build from scratch.
    Ditto.Couldn't agree more.
     Big thumbs up

    Think of the brighter side!
    User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8596 posts, RR: 9
    Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8463 times:
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    JNB has undergone some radical changes in the last few years, including a new domestic terminal and many internal improvements to the international terminal. I think they could do with an SAA terminal, there is plenty of space between the parallel main runways to build one, this would free space at the existing terminals and eliminate the need to park international flights at D apron and bus passengers to the terminal. Jetways at B apron and an underground moving walkway to the main terminal would also be a great improvement.

    After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
    User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7233 posts, RR: 11
    Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8460 times:

    -The departure tax system
    -Immigration facilities
    -more check in counters
    -More aircraft parking places
    -More shops landside
    -More viewing places
    -Bigger Food Court

    User currently offlineJustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 731 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8457 times:

    One simple change that most of us would agree on:

    Open the terminals up for the non-ticketed again. (My home airport is Seattle-Tacoma, by the way.)

    "So many planes; so little time..."
    User currently offlineAirbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8432 times:

    As someone else said, PHX has room for expansion in different terminals besides T4. I also wish they could get a different carpet, ever since I have been to PHX, I HATE THE CARPET!

    User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4973 posts, RR: 23
    Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8431 times:

    At EZE I would change the arrivals area, which is pretty old and ´dark´. I would probably do it in the same style as the check in area was done a few years ago.

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    User currently offlineSalso From Slovenia, joined Dec 2004, 205 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8419 times:

    My home airport (actually the only international airport in Slovenia with scheduled service) is LJU - Ljubljana Brnik airport. It's a small airport with approximately half a million passengers annually.

    1.) I would remodel the whole terminal. The old one is outdated and small, even though large enough for such an amount of traffic. But I would like more shops inside the departure lounge (at the moment there's only one) and more bars airside (also only one currently). I also woulsn't mind one or two jetbridges instead os airstairs. The check-in area though is large enough, bright enough and nicely furnished.

    2.) Parking until recently wasn't very nice (only uncovered parking spaces, which could also be pretty far away from the terminal. And you have to walk there). But now they are building a new three-story garage which will be opened soon. So no changes needed here.

    3.) In terms of destinations and schedules, there in my opinion nothing needs to be changed. The airport has enough services to places all over Europe and it is not hard to find a flight to actually anywhere in the world.

    User currently offlineJetBlue190 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 122 posts, RR: 14
    Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8408 times:

    -lengthen both runways from 8600 to 12000 ft.
    -get rid of terminal B and create something new
    -add a state-of-the-art international terminal to acommodate widebodies
    -modern shopping centers in all terminals
    -more check-in counters in terminals A and B

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    That's what it currently looks like.


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    User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 67
    Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 8405 times:

    Rework Terminal 1 - Terminal 2 is much nicer, and T1 seems to be a construction site more times than not... although, overall I'd say that FRA is OK.

    Open the terminals up for the non-ticketed again.
    Couldn't disagree more!


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    User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 8405 times:

    ANC: Two terminals, north and south. South has an awesome new "C" Concourse, opened this last fall. Its A Concourse is in need of renovation, there isn't any service past Security. There used to be a small shop and a small bar/lounge but not any longer. B Concourse is scheduled for renovation, although I think it's in great shape now. Plenty of things to do beyond security (airside).

    The North Terminal used to house strictly international flights, but now pays host to DL, HP and F9 also.

    The two are not connected. One must take a bus to go from one to the other. It's quite inconvenient, since it's a straight line and less than one quarter of a mile from terminal to terminal.

    There needs to be an enclosed (this is Alaska, of course it must be enclosed) connector, with movnig walkways built between the two . . .

    User currently offlineStlual747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 167 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8394 times:

    Well in STL lets start with demolishing the main terminal. I would rebuild it to look something like DEN. I think our gate area is like a dark hallway. It is very narrow if you compare it to some place like DEN. I would also put in moving walkways and new Departure/Arrival screens. Ours are getting quite old. I think there needs to be more of a selection of restaurants to eat at as well.

    Oh and I would also do everything in my power to attract more flights.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


    Lonely in Deserted St. Louis.
    User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4446 posts, RR: 11
    Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8392 times:

    Well, theres a master plan already going on at El Dorado Intl. (BOG)...so not much.....I would only make it faster, since its scheduled to finish in 2025, so I would makke it run thru 2015.

    User currently offlineJfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 376 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 17 hours ago) and read 8369 times:
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    Although I don't live in PHX anymore, I did spend my first 23 years in PHX and I still consider it my home airport.

    I think a few others have touched on the following:
    1. Demolish T2. Its such an embarrassment because its so old and outdated.

    2. Expand and Remodel T3. Add a second concourse to both the South and North side. Move all the T2 airlines to T3.

    3. Demolish the old Honeywell Industrial Complex that runs along the North side of the aiport. Flying into PHX is beautiful especially when landing from the East and you descend over Scottsdale, the Papago Buttes and Camelback Mountain, then as soon as you touch down you see this massive ugly greenish series of buildings along with the runway that proudly say Honeywell. The whole thing looks like it was constructed out of corregated metal.

    4. I agree with Airbus3801 - 86 the carpet. The Hopi print is a bit outdated.

    User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7607 posts, RR: 7
    Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 8366 times:

    MIA it being changed but I hope they make the Check Area's much better. I was just in EZE and wow there Checkin area is awesome! Whish MIA could be like that but no room. The Bag claim area could be alot better too. And where you get the buses and taxis. But the airport is going to imporve as the D gates are very nice already. And J councourse is going to be great. Along with the new D Terminal.

    "It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
    User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months ago) and read 8347 times:

    One simple change that most of us would agree on:

    Open the terminals up for the non-ticketed again.

    You'd apparently be surprised to learn how many people, who travel on a regular basis, would DISAGREE with you at all costs!

    User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8596 posts, RR: 9
    Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8328 times:
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    Frank and CB I'm right with you there, thank God this was never allowed in South Africa, it's bad enough trying to fight your way through the rubberneckers into the check-in area, I can't imagine how awful it must be having them all the way to the gate!

    After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
    25 Newark777 : Also for EWR, the biggest thing I would change is the cop situation. They always seem like they are out to get you, and they have no respect for aviat
    26 EGHHWizard : BOH- A new terminal would be nice. One has been planned but I don't know if I'm going to see it in my lifetime! New arrivals hall on the existing term
    27 Alcregular : For a start, I would put in a viewing gallery. NCL used to have one, on the rooftop, so you had the best possible view, apart from the control tower,
    28 Post contains images MD11LuxuryLinr : PHL.. Build a nice big OBSERVATION DECK!
    29 Post contains images ATAIndy : Since they are already building a new terminal at IND, I guess it would have to be get more widebodies contracts.
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