WeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5458 times:
I figured this would be a good place to ask about flights to Heathrow. I'm non reving on 31JAN05 from LAX-LHR. I have a ZED ticket, so I can use it on either AA or BA. I was planning on taking American as I thought I had a better chance of being upgraded. However, I hear that British FA's are pretty good about upgrading other flight crews if you bring gifts (ie: candy!). I have never flown either airline and do not know what to expect. I've flown on UA on this route and figured AA would be pretty much the same.
Anybody know the flight loads for these flights??? I'm curious to know... just to see what my chances are. My friend I'm flying with has never been on a larger plane then a 737-900. I'm very excited to fly with him on his first widebody/international flight.
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26005 posts, RR: 78 Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5423 times:
Well, considering this is your friend's first widebody international, why not fly BA and get the queen of the skies as your equipment. Also, with the bigger plane, you have a better shot (theoretically) at getting your upgrade. Additionally, an upgrade may mean a trip in the upper deck.
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Aa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5353 times:
The gate agents at LAX for AA are pretty good about upgrades. I've never had to wait to recieve my upgrade at any AA gate at LAX, they always are very courteous in getting me a F class boarding pass. I have flown AA from ORD-LHR and service was great. Hope it works out for you to get upgraded regardless of carrier. LAX-LHR is a nice 10hr20min flight on AA #136 and returning is 11hr20min on #137, it would be very nice to be upgraded. Let us know.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3691 posts, RR: 29 Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5226 times:
Also, with the bigger plane, you have a better shot (theoretically) at getting your upgrade. Additionally, an upgrade may mean a trip in the upper deck
BA are amongst the toughest airlines to get upgraded on. I'd say as a non-rev you'd have next to no chance of an upgrade. BA Golds, then other BA elites, then OW elites, then its anyones game! And since BA only upgrade one class unless in serious problems this is not worth the effort.
Choose a BA B744, join their Exec Club and pick the 2 seats together down the back.
You will get an amenity kit and a good breakfast, much better than AA
Can't join the Executive Club on a cheapo flight, especially non rev! You'll need to be a Y,B,H coach ticket to join the EC.
I'd be interested to know why you choose AA? 36" pitch and power port alone make the AA trip the most obvious option. In economy you have to buy by legroom, all food is crap and the amenity kit isn't any good!
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Flighttime From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5181 times:
Sorry to say BA crew (we abhor the term FA!), are not particularly good at upgrading. The fact is we simply won't know you are a flying colleague. Of course technically you are meant to introduce yourself to the SCCM if you are flying crew in case something goes wrong (potential ABP). But I've never had the nerve to do that as it seems rather 'obvious'. If you do say it subtly you may well be very lucky. But dont go profering sweeties whilst asking 'any chance...' Instantly will get our backs up.
P.s. Despite two jumbos a day I have seen crew on j/s with others left behind quite frequently and not during a traditionally busy time. Good luck whoever you go with.
WeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5067 times:
Thanks for the replies. I've checked loads on the AA flight only, and the res agent said the flight is about half full. I realize that ZED tickets are not eligible for upgrades, but I've heard it can actually happen quite often.
As far as BA goes, my friend just got back from Norway via LHR on them yesterday. He was upgraded on both flights (LAX-LHR-Oslo) on his way there. He said he simply gave the crew the candy when he boarded, introduced himself as a fellow flight attendant, and took his seat. They ended up upgrading him after take-off to an upstairs ClubWorld seat. I'm would NEVER ask a crewmember for an upgrade. If anybody ever did that on my airline, I'd tell them to f*ck off (not really.. but you get my point). Kinda like airline employees assuming they get free drinks on all flights. I always want to charge them double when they do that.
I guess it all depends on who you ask and how good of a mood that person is in. I figured that BA would be hard to upgrade at the counter and figured the crew would not be able to upgrade you after you boarded. My friend proved me wrong with this theory so that's why I'm asking you all what you think. I think if I got stuck in coach though, AA would be better assuming their B777's still have MRTC. Any other suggestions? I just figured that bringing candy (or some other gift) would be a nice treat for the crew. If it happens to get my friend an I an upgrade, yay for us!
FLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1183 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5061 times:
I fly AA exclusively because of their itineraries to LIM. Having said that, I have to think that BA may have a much better product in economy. Those seats (I have never flown on the 777) on AA's planes are hard as rocks. The food is blah at best. This is my opinion being someone who often sits for two 5 hour segments on AA's planes. I have always heard good things about BA and I am a huge fan of the 747s.
OzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2684 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5039 times:
Not sure of your upgrade chances without OW status, but I recommend you experience long haul on a non-US carrier and, along with your friend, enjoy the difference. BA are quite reliable and have a very good Y product and service.
When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
WeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4935 times:
Just got back from London a couple of days ago! Took BA and my friend and I loved it! We did get upgraded.... to ClubWorld. ClubWorld was pretty empty and it was so nice of the Cabin Service Director to give us the great seats!
Took United back from LHR the next day as we had to cut our trip short (a wallet and all of it's contents were stolen our 1st day). I think I'll do a trip report so keep your eyes posted for it soon.