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Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operator.  
User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 810 posts, RR: 22
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

We all know that the 744's will grace our sky for many many years to come,
but I was curious about what airline you think will keep them in service the longest.
It is likely that we will see them as freighters for a really long time to come, so
I would like to know your opinion about the PAX-aircraft only.
IMO it's obvious that NW is a serious contender in this little contest.

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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

Maybe Air France. They just ordered some new ones a while ago, and they don't plan on replacing them with the 773, although they operate them aswell





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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 934 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

I guess Saudia  Smile
They like 747s and especially during Hajj times 747s are very profitable


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4295 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4665 times:

I guess a small airline flying 2nd hand planes but needing big passenger loads for hadj or prestigious routes, like Air Dabia, Phoenix Aviation (Sharjah), Surinam Airways, LAB or Orient Thai. These sort of airlines were the last flying pax DC-6/7/Connies in the 1970s, DC-8s and 707s in the late 80s and Tristars and 747-100s now.


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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4623 times:

Out of the mainline carriers I think JAL would be up there.

User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4476 times:

How about NW, the launch customer of the 744 and perennial "whipping boy" in these threads for flying old planes?

User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2538 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

I dont see Air New Zealand dropping their 747s anytime soon


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9266 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

I don't see anybody dropping 747-400's anytime soon. In say...twenty years the 747-400 retirement threads will replace those of the DC9's. And given Northwest's "habits"...I'm voting for them.


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

Ah........... I say British Airways.


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3972 times:
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I dont see Air New Zealand dropping their 747s anytime soon
Air New Zealand will start retiring their B744 fleet in about 10 years time for new B773ERs.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5288 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3930 times:

It'll be sooner than that for NZ, 2010-2011 they will start to retire them, i'd say the last will be gone by 2013. Could be wrong though.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3925 times:
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If I remember correctly one of the NZ members said that around 2010 the B773ER order will be announced.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5288 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3891 times:

Yup say 2010 order with first delivery in 2011 through to 2014-15. I guess they will go for 8-10 aircraft depending on route structure i.e second daily to LHR.

Back to the original topic I think QF will be among the last mainline carriers with 744's! The ER's are still virtually brand new and VH-OJS, T, U are 5 years old, so i'd imagine they will be around for a fair while yet!

AF will likely be up there aswell!


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Qantas will have them for a long time to come, i don't see the 744 vanishing from the skies anytime soon, it's the backbone of alot of the worlds major airlines and has many good years left in her.


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User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

I dont think that any of these BIG airlines will be, because most of these airlines dont run old planes (in terms of dilvery). It will be the same in the future.
I think the 747-400 will be in the skys for atleast for annother 20-30 years.



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 45
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3844 times:
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Agree with you there i cant even start to think QF without 747/400 as it has been like the company symble for some time
Long live the 400



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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3825 times:

Dude, airlines have their own markets, their own variables -- that's impossible to tell.

>>"I think the 747-400 will be in the skys for atleast for annother 20-30 years."<<

I agree, those operators that have the plane will keep the plane until they determine that need something else whether less or more. It'll be while.

Consider that the 707 & 727 are damn old and still flying.





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User currently offlineVictorTango From India, joined Jan 2005, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3819 times:

I guess Air-India...they hate to give away their old planes  Smile The 744s forms a sizeable amount of their fleet.

They like 747s and especially during Hajj times 747s are very profitable

Why don't they go in for the A380s? That should really help during Hajj.

Olly


User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3827 times:

I think NW is the obvious choice to be the last to have a considerable usage of 747s by a major airline, but who knows who might hold on to one for a little while.

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