Jdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 835 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3141 times:
What route has either too many seats, too much frequency or the cost per seat is too high? Or even what route has too many carriers serving it? This could be in the US or world wide.
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Alb222 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3103 times:
Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3093 times:
LAX-HNL. I heard those flights are mostly full, but the airlines don't make much money on this route.
Jdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 835 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3047 times:
PHL BOS you have got one every hour on US and a few a day on FL.
"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them" Ronald Reagan
B4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2548 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3026 times:
Quoting Juventus (reply 2): LAX-HNL. I heard those flights are mostly full
Trolley Dolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2833 times:
The trans-Tasman routes. 13 airlines, many flying wide bodies, link New Zealand and Australia. These nations have about 4 million and 17 million people respectively. It's hardly a huge market. Fares as low as USD$70 one way for a 3 hour flight. It's a blood bath.
Toxicmegacolon From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 28 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2713 times:
Houston-Dallas is pretty ridiculous.
20 dailies on Skyteam.
12 dailies on American.
I'm guesing there are other airlines on this route too.... Southwest?
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 755 posts, RR: 54 Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2697 times:
Quoting Toxicmegacolon (reply 8): I'm guesing there are other airlines on this route too.... Southwest?
Deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1329 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2578 times:
I would think that many US-HNL routes could be money losers - simply because many people are using award tickets or employees flying non-rev. I spoke with one of the old DL F/As here in DFW. She said that she remembers a few L10-11 flights DFW-HNL that had ZERO revenue pax.
Wilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1158 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2458 times:
DCA-NYC
with DL CO AA US going between JFK LGA EWR and DCA
GothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 565 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
JFK/LGA/EWR-FLL = 51 flights per day, 21 from B6 alone + 30 combined from Spirit, US, Delta, Continental and AA
Lrgt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 698 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
Quoting Jdwfloyd (reply 3): PHL BOS you have got one every hour on US and a few a day on FL.
Midwest717 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2356 times:
YYZ-YUL, flights leave every 30 min. all widebodies, and then air canada screws over its cities like Thunder Bay and Saskatoon with crappy service
-Paul
Airlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2347 times:
Quoting MANmatt (reply 10): What about LAX-LAS, when i was weighing up the options for this route, i came across UA, ted, HP and WN who all had multiple dailys on the route.
Don't forget AA either
But I would have to say the most overserviced route is LAX-JFK You have:
Alb222 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2349 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (reply 17): And plenty of oversold flights 365 days a year. What is loss in yield is made up for in bulk.
Reminds me of the old story of selling a shirt and losing a $1 on each one but making it up on volume.
I'm flying SFO-JFK/LGA-FLL-ATL-SFO and the LGA-FLL part is $54.50........amazing price and I even get to watch TV!
Cmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2278 times:
If you look at NYC-CHI with "NYC" being HPN/LGA/JFK/EWR and "CHI" ORD/MDW you end up with:
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25 N1120A: LAX-HNL flights are always full. They also carry A LOT of cargo because aside from pineapples, fish, sugar and some pigs, they have to ship everythin
26 Jdwfloyd: dont forget about ISP to MDW or ORD, not sure if WN serves that route or not.
27 Usairways85: Yes, you do have a large amount of capacity from PHL-PVD/BOS/MHT with US, WN, and FL. However with Southwest in the PHL-PVD/MHT market the O&D between
28 JeffrySkY: SIN-KUL is no longer the heavily-serviced route as it used to be in the past ; i am surprised that people often quote it as the "most heavily serviced
29 Ckfred: On New York-Chicago, WN does fly MDW-ISP. AA also flies ORD-SWF, although that route, as well as ORD-HPN are being flown by Eagle since the Fokkers we
30 RCS763AV: Waht about MIA/FLL-MCO. There´s AA, Southwest, DL Connection, CO Connection....
31 PHLBOS: Since we're talking about a particular route/city, throwing in MHT and PVD doesn't apply in this case; even though WN considers MHT & PVD part of the
32 Usdcaguy: I know for a fact that loads on US and AA flights DCA-JFK and DCA-BOS are terrible. They don't make great money, and supply only matches demand on the
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