AirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3097 times:
If it wasn't for those $39 each way tickets that fit my college budget, I would never think of flying them. Thanks Southwest. I leave the long flights to the others. I am definitely going to try the new BUR-JFK route that JetBlue is starting.
JBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3170 posts, RR: 20 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3060 times:
Ive flown them all but Indepedence, and will be flying DH on Friday. But in my opinion of the other three, its:
I have no major beef with Southwest. The few tiems I've flown them, I've had average flight crews. Really, it's just another airline. However, if the choice was ISP-FLL or JFK/LGA-FLL and the price was the same, I'd rather go with the airline that gives me a TV to watch and a choice of things to keep me fed for the short 2:15 that the flight lasts.
THey are all good.. but jetBlue has the edge over both of them.
Airbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3058 times:
Jet Blue all the way. I just have a huge problem with Southworst, it is that they don't even give you an assigned seat. I don't want to have to be hearded onto an aircraft like cattle for a mad dash to the aisle seat! I don't want to be stuck with a middle seat for however many hours because there was a traffic jam on the highway! Also, JetBlue has pristine and professional flight attendents, excellent aircraft, excellent entertainment, and usually the same price if not cheaper than Southwest. Also, they fly into real airports like JFK and not ISP!
UAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3010 times:
Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 3): everyone there but southwest seems to be great. From a comfort and treatment perspective.
Apparently you've never rode in FL's coach! Oh god.. don't sit down too fast!
I think overall it should be Jetblue. Although they don't have the world's best route network, they're doing great in both an aircraft maintnaince as well as comfort and IFE prespective, and they also NAIL other airlines with their service. Most likely one of the many reasons why they were voted #1 airline by multiple survey companies.
Qantas777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 484 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 2933 times:
Only two of the damn carriers mentioned were LCC's: AirTran and Southwest. JetBlue is not a low cost airline. I know I will get a lotta crap postings in response, but its not low cost. Flyi, who the hell are they anyway. CRJ's for an LCC? No.
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 2923 times:
WN for the following reasons...
=> Excellent safety record
=> Better seat pitch
=> Many non-stop routes
=> On-time performance
=> Average ticket price
=> Staff professionalism
=> Rules and conditions
=> Luggage accuracy
=> Mainline equipment
=> Employee relations
=> Full drink service
=> Snack service on long flights
Is WN perfect? Of course they're not, but I've been happy with them 99% of the time so far. That's better than any other carrier I've ever been on, and I've flown most US legacy carriers on multiple occasions. If and when jetBlue offers service to my hometown, I might try them out. Until then I'll fly WN when I can.
Open Season on Consumer Protections is Just Around the Corner...
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8038 posts, RR: 25 Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 2916 times:
I have flown Indy, Southwest, and Air Tran. As far as coach service, I think Southwest takes the cake. Air Tran was good, but the legroom was much more cramped. As for value, I think Air Tran is great if you can grab a business class seat. For only 35 bucks more you can upgrade and it is well worth it. Indy Air was great on the flight to IAD, but the departing flight was.... well... for starters it was 7 hours late. My impression of the IAD operation DH has was that it's a total hellhole and is gunna kill that airline. Their service, however, is good.
I think it all depends on your market. jetBlue I'm sure is best for flights over 2 hours, Southwest is best for shorter flights or flights you need to book without much advance warning, and Air Tran is great if you can get a business class seat but, as I said, if you're over 5'10'' the coach seats on the 717 are cramped. I still loved FL though. Independence? They're great if you really like waiting in the terminals in Dulles!
JetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2898 times:
Well I think jetBlue wins because of the IFE, nice fares, new planes, staff professionalism, etc. I love their route structure b/c it is based around my hometown and the biggest metro area in the country(Or it was the biggest) still it has a lot of people and I love the leather seats and the Blue Chips are really good.
Southwest is next b/c I like the fares and the seats are comfortable, even though the staff aren't all professional, it is till ok. The cattle car arrangement is not good and I hate it. I had to end up sitting 20 rows away from my dad b/c Southwest can't let people pick where they want to sit and if you are late to the airport, that is it, you will basically be getting a bad seat far away from people you know.
Never flown FL or DH but I like DH b/c of fares and route structure and my aunt who lives in DC and flies it alot loves them. Planes are nice except if you are tall.
And FL seems good by route structure, planes, and services. XM Radio and the seats as I have heard are good but not if you are tall and big.
1.jetBlue by miles
3. Independence and AirTran tie b/c I don't see anything that sets either of them ahead of each other except for FL's XM but B6 will have that soon so that will set B6 higher and keep FL with DH.
JetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2858 times:
This is jetBlue, Independence, Southwest, and AirTran, not that horrible green mess. (If anyone likes them then excuse me but I have a thing for "copy-cat" airlines and ugly planes-the 757 is the best and it looks like it was snotted on, it is a sin).
Anyway adding onto what I said before, also I think if DH continues to have financial problems then they will drop to the bottom of my list only because you kind of get the felling that you hope the airline will be around to operate the flight. I do like DH alot but you want an airline that you know will be around for some time, not just a quick visit.
ExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2848 times:
1 - JetBlue
2 - AirTran
3 - Southwest
(I've never flown DH, so I can't comment on them. I tend to buy my tickets way in advance when I can, and their financial difficulties make me nervous. I don't have to worry about B6 or FL not being there six months from now. If they offer service to SRQ at some point in the future, I might give them a closer look.)
JetBlue wins on customer service, comfort, IFE, website...well, just about everything. If B6 flies to where I want to go, unless someone else has a really great fare, B6 wins. 'Nuff said.
I've only flown AirTran twice, and it was fine. One flight was in Business Class, and it was nice to have the option, especially when going to Florida during the holidays...it's nice to be able to get away from the "flying day care centre" in the back. The lack of IFE's a factor, but not a huge one (and XM Radio will be good - I have it at home already, and really like it.)
For me, the thing that makes AirTran uncompetitive is that I'd have to change planes in Atlanta. About 50-60% of my annual flying is to visit family in Tampa, and, all other things being equal, why would I choose to have to change planes in ATL if I don't have to? Especially when, on those occasions when B6 is too expensive, I usually have a choice of a non-stop on AA - AA offers very aggressive pricing from LGA to Florida, and I can get my AAdvantage miles. (Once I have the miles I need for my next trip to Australia, this'll be much less of a factor.)
I still consider FL every time I book a flight, especially if it's somewhere B6 doesn't fly. I'll also check them out when I buy for Christmas (it'd be easier for me to fly into SRQ than TPA, as my brother lives in Bradenton. Of course, if B6 ever offers non-stop JFK-SRQ, which I expect they will eventually, the whole "connection factor" will hurt FL here.)
Southwest...well, first of all I DETEST the "cattle call" boarding. For, say, LAS-LAS or TPA-FLL, I couldn't care less where I sit. For longer flights, I do care, and I care a lot. I just bought tickets to LAS for the first weekend in June, and did not even consider WN. (Part of that, to be fair, is that I'd have to drive to ISP to fly WN, and with all the choices out of LGA, JFK, and EWR, WN would probably not stand a chance anyway.)
Now I know you can use on-line check to get in the first boarding group and all that, but...whatever. Just drag yourselves into the 21st century and offer assigned seating already, at least on longer flights. Maybe offer it only to people who book on the website, as an additional incentive to book on-line. B6 manages to turn their planes rather quickly with assigned seating, so I'm just not buying that excuse any more.
I don't mind the occasional joking by the FAs (JetBlue sometimes has humorous announcements, too), but all too often a lot of the "folksiness" on WN comes across as "fake" or "forced." I freely grant that that may just be me, but it's the same feeling I get when I walk into a WalMart, or deal with some people in the South - that it just isn't real.
It really doesn't matter that much though, since I'm not going all the way out to ISP anyway!
As for other LCC's (or pseudo-LCC divisions of other carriers), I've never flown on Frontier, Spirit, or Ted. Flew Song back when they first started - it was OK, but since it was so long ago and the IFE wasn't in place, I can't do a fair comparsion to other LCCs today. (I will say that I'd consider any other LCC before flying WN on a flight of over an hour or so, though.) Once I have my Australia miles on AA, the "if I'm not flying B6..." slot will be wide open and DL/Song (and everyone else) will be more competitive.
N200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 784 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2747 times:
Surprising how many people want to be told where to sit ahead of time. Who cares...the open seating is one of the things I like best when non-reving around the country on Southwest. Assigned seating or not...on a full flight there will always be people in the middle seats. A childish issue if you ask me.
FLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2742 times:
jetBlue takes the cake here. I have had a better expirence every time I fly them and the first time I flew them it was "my best flying expirence..." until the next time, until the NEXT TIME!
Their ground staff is superb. They get the job done on the ramp and in the terminal. They have no problem changing seats for you and if you need to get in sooner (in my case, my flight was delayed for almost 2 hours and it was an 8:15pm flight and I had to get up at 6am the next morning...the 6:30 flight was delayed for an hour too) they will cange your flight for NO FEE and with a smile..even getting us 3 seats together! (ok, it wasn't a 100% full flight, but still)
They deal with groups well at FLL. Everything we did was as a group. At JFK they did not treat us like a group, but they still handled us well. But they laugh, they joke, they have fun even at the ticket counter! (and they let a couple of lbs overweight slide!) Also, with groups, at JFK they boarded our group 1 row at a time...and we still pushed on time!
Their in flight service is outstanding, and their food and entertainment is exceptional.
You can't beat B6!
AirTran gets #2 simply because I've only flown them, B6, and WN and I disliked WN.
WN is #3...late was the key word...it was an hour flight to JAX and nobody would sit down. Still, the crew on my return was up to par with B6, and no complaints on the JAX-FLL portion of the route! I will have to get used to it, as they appear to be my only way home (cheap) for the holidays this fall and winter!
DH gets 4 because I hear Spirit is crap, giving Spirit 5.
ExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2733 times:
Quoting N200WN (Reply 21): Surprising how many people want to be told where to sit ahead of time. Who cares...the open seating is one of the things I like best when non-reving around the country on Southwest. Assigned seating or not...on a full flight there will always be people in the middle seats. A childish issue if you ask me.
It's not "being told where to sit" - it's "telling the airline where I would prefer to sit." Big difference.
And yes, unless its a light flight, someone is going to get stuck in the centre. But why shouldn't I have the option of making sure it isn't me, without having to deal with the stupidity of the cattle call? With JetBlue's online seat map, I can try to maximize the possibility of getting an empty centre seat by choosing an aisle seat in a row where the window is already taken, and I can do this from the comfort of my PC weeks in advance.
The airline is there for my convenience, not the other way around, and other LCCs have proven that WN's excuse of "turn time" just doesn't fly (pardon the pun) any more. Southwest just doesn't want to have to spend some money on software - and as long as there are enough people who want to fly on AirWalMart, and as long as every other US LCC (AFAIK) offers assigned seating, I can live quite well without them and they can live quite nicely without me.
On longer flights, I insist on an aisle seat not just for my comfort, but for my fellow passengers as well, as I have fairly broad shoulders, and (for medical reasons) use the restroom more frequently than most people do. It's simply polite for me to choose an aisle seat.
BTW, you might want to consider that people have many reasons for wanting seat choice before throwing around arrogant insults like "childish."