RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4180 posts, RR: 43 Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8265 times:
I know this theme might seem a bit taboo but I decided to give it a try.
Back in 1987 I went to this airshow in Switzerland with my parents. It was small anncient aircrafts. Well I still remeber this old piper taking off and then suddenly falling down to crash on apple trees ! Luckily the airplane didn't fall from too high and the pilot somehow got off safely !
I'm sure there are many people out there that have seen something more impressive. Living close to an airport I have dreamt many times of an airplane crashing nearby but thankfully I've never had to support that experience
A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
RDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8214 times:
I saw the F/A 18 crash on take-off at RDU last year. Pilot ejected and was ok...airplane was junked.
It could have been a major disaster had it happened a few minutes earlier as a full NW A320 was pushing back in the path that the flaming wreck skidded through. It also came to rest about 50 yds. short of the re-fueling station for Terminal A...
Back in '94-'95 I went to the American Eagle J-32 crash site in the woods just South of RDU. Like ANC flyer mentioned, not something to soon be forgotten. It's weird, the one thing that stands out in my mind was all the pine trees that were broken off where the plane went into the woods. The Officials had to cut a new path into the dense undergrowth to eventually get the aircraft parts out.
Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4180 posts, RR: 43 Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8163 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3): but I got to assist in the aftermath, once we could get to it in the fog at a bit over 3000 feet.
Two Air India planes crashed in about the same place close to the Mt Blanc in the alps, before landing at GVA. One of the occured in January 1966.I had the luck to see parts of the aircraft that were found coming out of a Glacier...this apparently occurs from time to time since much of the remnants ended up in a crevasse ....
A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2218 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8139 times:
At an RC Model airshow on a dry lake bed outside Las Vegas in the late 70s a man who was selling ultralights was demonstrating how fast he could take it from trailer to airborne. On the first flyby he jiggled (technical term) the control stick up and down. It came off in his hands - cotter pin came out - and it nose dived in killing him instantly.
Now at that same show a B-17, an RC model, that had been brought over from Germany made his first pass and I caught the left horizontal stabilizer falling off with my camera. That made you sick to see that crash even if it was a model. A very large RC P51 lost it on too tight a turn and made a purple pile in the dust too. Altogether the show was not a real success.
I've seen two General Aviation twins use the dirt between the runways when no gears worked. Both remained upright. One LearJet 31 I think used the foam on rnwy 25 sucessfully. One very heavily loaded charter B747-100 had a first stage fan let go right at rotation. I looked up when I heard the bang and got to see the parts rolling along the runway edge igniting the sagebrush and creosote plants. He dumped fuel and got back OK. These were all at LAS. Oh yeah, I got to see a Capt. ignore the flagman on powerback and make a DC9-30 out of a -50 backwards against the blastwall. Marks are still there.
Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8048 times:
I was on a UA B747-200 flying SFO-LHR in 1995 (I think). We lost a main-gear tyre on take-off and one of the four hydraulic systems failed. I overheard one of the FOs telling the Purser, but I didn't think it was a big deal. So I was surprised to see all the emergency vehicles out for us at LHR. We taxied off the runway, stopped immediately, and the fire trucks foamed us. Then we were towed off to a remote location, waited a while in the plane while lots of activity was going on on the ground, then were eventually bused in to the terminal. Not a crash or even a crash landing, but still a bit eerie.
My cousin was at Tenerife airport when the two B747s collided. He didn't see it happen, but saw the resulting fire. Several years ago, it came up and he mentioned that he still occasionally has nightmares about it.
Henny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8035 times:
I nearly did, once, approximately 5 years ago.
Airtours A321, G-JSJX - Finals at a windy MAN/EGCC, at 50 feet there was a sudden drop in the crosswind and the port wingtip fence (winglet) + nacelle momentarily brushed the concrete. Instantly the pilot flying requested full TOGA, never have I seen an A321 climb so quickly to 3000ft.
It came round, and made a near-perfect side-step touchdown.
NORTHSEATIGER From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 432 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8028 times:
I saw a Sikorsky S-61 Crash as it came into land when the tail rotor cables snapped and it started to spin out of control, luckily they were only 20-30 ft above the deck and the crew did a great job and got it down allbeit after 3 rotations and at a 45 degree angle.
Broke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7970 times:
I had just signed up for flight instructions at MacArthur Airport (ISP) on Long Island and I was sitting in the airport coffee shop having lunch. Looking out, I saw a trail of fire moving from left to right; looking further to the right, I saw an airplane sliding along on its belly with the flames in pursuit.
Then I saw several people evacuate the airplane (A Beech Model 18) as the fire reached it. A short time later the firetrucks arrived and started leaving a lovely pile of foam about 20-30 feet short of the airplane. Slowly, they worked up to the plane putting the foam on top of the plane. The fire was coming from the bottom of the wing where the fuel tanks had been opened while the plane slid on its belly. So the fire would die down and then eventually break through the layer of foam and erupt again. The result was a weird version of Indian smoke signals. I vowed then and there never to crash and burn at ISP.
Skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 59 Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7947 times:
At the beginning of my long and varied Air Force career I was a young engine mechanic on 4Sqn Harrier GR.1's at RAF Wildenrath in Germany.
One morning I was on earlies and we had a 4-ship to see off. All four started and taxiied out to the opposite end of the runway. They were taking off in pairs.
The first pair started their roll, but, shortly into it, they aborted and turned off. The second pair then started. The lead aircraft got airborne, but the last jet also aborted. The only one to "fly" made it to about 300' when he suddenly levelled out and ejected - very impressive! The Harrier proscribed a perfect arc and dived, pilotless, into the runway and proceeded to plough up toward 3 Sqn's line buildings, from which people suddenly began to run like hell! It came to a halt and proceeded to burn fiercely.
We, as all young men would be, were quite cheered by this. Our Warrant Officer, nicknamed "Carrot Top" was running up and down the line crying "It's one of our's, it's one of our's!" We, on the other hand were simply worried about who had done the turn round servicing. Once we realised it wasn't us, we sat back to watch the spectacle.
Quite entertaining, especially when the pilot on his chute drifted toward the burning wreck.
I've seen a few other wrecks, but the most enduring memory I have is the Ariana Afghan 727 which crashed short of Gatwicks runway sometime in the late 60's. The sight of this jet with just the nose and tail intact left me with a burning desire to sit either at the front or rear of any airliner I flew on.
Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 50 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7931 times:
Yes, in December 2003.
I remember it very well. I was at work. During my time with the Norwegian air force, I worked at the Sea King rescue squadron in Bodø, northern Norway.
It was December 4th 2003, around 8:30 PM. Still dark outside, with some snow, and heavy winds around 60 kts, gusting 72 kts.
While I was sitting behind the operation desk, the phone rang. (My job was to receive and distribute information to the crew, so I would receive any emergency calls.) I answered the phone, and it turned out to be something non-important. While I was on the phone though, the direct line to Bodø twr started ringing. One of the pilots who happened to be there picked up the phone. We hung up at the same time, and I noticed he reached for the "Scramble" button to sound the alarm. "Listen" he said "this is no exercise".
He informed the rest of the crew the following:
A Kato Air Dornier 228 carrying 4 people, heading towards Bodø, had been struck by lightening, and lost the elevator rudders. They were maneuvering only with the help of the trim. Mayday had been called out.
The crew rushed to the helicopter, and prepared to depart in case the plane didn't make it to the airport.
I walked over to the window, and not long after the planes approach lights could be seen. It approached rwy25. I could tell something was very wrong with the plane, as it was bouncing up and down in large motions. Like a rollercoaster. Climbing and descending constantly.
As the time came to land, the pilots must have thought it was no good, and pulled up into a steep climb. I've never seen a civil plane climb that steeply. I was sure he would stall out in the strong winds and fall to the ground any time. But the plane stayed in the air, and managed to go around for another landing attempt.
Once again, I could see the lights bounce up and down in the darkness, as the plane approached the rwy. Like all planes landing on rwy25, it disappeared behind the corner of the terminal building for a short period. But unlike the other planes, it didn't reappear and roll out on the rwy. "He's down..." said another employee at the squadron in the room. Ambulances and emergency vehicles rushed to the scene. Over the radio I heard that all had survived, with only moderate injuries.
Quite an experience to have witnessed.
I was amazed that the pilots had managed to get the plane to a "safe" landing after first getting hit by lightening, then been flying temporarily blind for 5 minutes following the flash, and then keeping the plane in the air for nearly 30 minutes using the trim.
Well done to the crew. Though the plane never flew again.
Photos by Tom Melby at "Avisa Nordland".
"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
AzoresLover From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 750 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7901 times:
I was at SEA one time, I can't remember the exact year but it was around 1988 give or take a year. A Horizon Dash-8 had taken off, when the right wing suddenly burst into flames. He circled and came back in, and landed on the runway, but there apparently was no control. He careened off the runway, across the grass, taxiways, and aprons, and smashed into some gates in Concourse B. Fortunately there were no planes parked at those gates at the time, small miracle! I was in the concourse and went looking at the plane right after it hit. The right side was cracked open, and passengers were crawling out the broken fuselage to get away. Trucks were foaming the plane, and the smell of fuel was very strong inside the concourse.
After a couple of minutes security came through and cleared everyone out of the concourse and shut it down.
Fortunately, there were no fatalities among the 30+ passengers that were on board.
Those who want to do something will find a way; those who don't will find an excuse.
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 47 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7877 times:
I felt the explosion from a helicopter crash here in Cleveland, OH, in January 2002.
At the time I lived about six blocks from the hospital. At about 12:30 AM, I heard a loud CRACK followed by a BOOM that shook my entire apartment. Within seconds I realized it wasn't a thunderstorm and that I had heard the helicopter taking off but now didn't hear it anymore.
I literally threw on my sweats, grabbed my keys and took off running. I had no idea what I was going to see or whether there was anything I could do to help, but I wanted to go just in case. I ran to the hospital and there was smoke pouring out of the courtyard on the east side of the tower. There were already police and fire engines there and they kept everyone away from the hospital.
The two people who died were cremated in the ensuing fire. The paramedic who survived had severe burns. Windows were blown out to, if I recall correctly, the seventh floor of the hospital.
Here's the report:
NTSB Identification: IAD02FA026.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Public Inquiries
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Friday, January 18, 2002 in CLEVELAND, OH
Probable Cause Approval Date: 5/13/2003
Aircraft: MBB BK-117 A-3, registration: N626MB
Injuries: 2 Fatal, 1 Serious.
The medevac helicopter lifted off the hospital's roof-top helipad at night. The pilot made a right pedal turn to the northwest, facing a building that extended above the height of the helipad by approximately 10-feet. The paramedic said that when the helicopter was about 20-feet above the helipad, and while he was programming the GPS receiver, a "sudden gust" of wind push the helicopter from directly behind. He was not alerted to anything unusual until he looked up and noticed the helicopter's close proximity to a 16-floor brick building, located at the northern corner of the heliport, which extended above the height of the helipad by 4 floors. The paramedic yelled, "building, building, building!" to alert the pilot. The pilot then made a rapid right cyclic input to avoid hitting the building, but the helicopter struck the building, and fell about 13 floors to ground level. The paramedic did not see or hear any warning lights, horns or unusual noises, and was not aware of any mechanical problems with the helicopter. A police officer who flew two missions in the local area prior to the accident said the wind speed at 500 feet agl was at least 25 knots and gusting from the south/southwest. He stood on the primary helipad after the accident and said mechanical turbulence from the building was evident. An FAA inspector who also stood on the rooftop helipad after the accident said the wind gusts were about 20-30 knots from the southwest and they swirled around the heliport. Review of the helicopter flight manual revealed, "Directional controllability during take-off and landing is assured for flight condition with crosswind components up to 17 [knots]."
FutureUALpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2591 posts, RR: 8 Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7850 times:
At the airport I used to fly out of I saw a bi-plane, no sure of the type flip over onto its back after landing....either braked too hard or caught a freak gust of wind. One time I was hanging out waiting for my instructor and watched a twin land....as it rolled out the nose gear just folded into the wheel well and she grinded to a halt.
FRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2324 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7845 times:
I was at the RMS (Ramstein AFB, Germany) airshow in 1988 when the Italian jets collided. we got it all on tape since i was only 1 year old at the time. My sister and dad were burned by the jet fuel but not bad. Only on their hands and arms. I was with my mom about 600 meters away from them.
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 55 Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7839 times:
I was a the Biggin Hill Air Show a few years ago when they had two fatal crashes on consecutive days. On one day a Vampire jet crashed and the pilot was killed. The other day (when I was there with my brother), an old second world war US plane crashed. I can't remember what it was (single-engined though).
Crashed into the ground at speed and burst into flames in front of the whole crowd. The pilot didn't stand a chance - poor guy.
Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
AeroWeanie From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1604 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7837 times:
Deep breath... several
At Oshkosh in 1978, a T-18 turning from base to final stalled and crashed right in front of me. The aircraft blew up and the two people on board were killed. I have a vague memory of seeing another fatal accident at Oshkosh in either 1979 or 1980.
At Reno, I had my back turned to the Pond Racer when it crashed in 1993. I turned around and saw the smoke plume. As I had helped design the aircraft and I had met Rick Brickert for the first time the night before, it hit hard.
I was also at Reno in 1998 when a T-6 crashed during a start, killing Ralph Twombly. The accident happened in my perpherial vision. The next day, I was on a pay phone talking to my wife when I heard a loud noise and the crash alarm went off again - a P-51 crashed attempting a dead stick landing.
In the early 1980s, I flew in to the Stratford CT airport right after a F4U crashed fatally on take off. Luckily, I didn't see the crash, but the wreckage was obvious in the swamp next to the runway. The line boys had witnessed it and were really jumpy.