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Does Air Force One Need A New C/s?  
User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 678 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

this may spark a debate, but does anyone in here think that its time to freshen up AF1 with some new colours? Maybe a little more red white and blue, as opposed to white and blue?? Also, which presidential aircraft has the best c/s??? Start posting!

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4214 times:

It may look nice to freshen the colors up a bit, but I personally love the current paint. Also, you have to remember these planes are used on diplomatic journeys and shouldn't be like some of the flashy planes out there now. If they changed it, they would probably stick to a very conservative design.

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User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4196 times:

Absolutely not!

The plane IMO is fine the way it is and as what Newark777 said, the presidential planes should not used as fancy showpieces to take away from its main purpose.
If any heads of state planes get a new color, it should be the the A310's (CC150's) that we have in our country as the two shade grey is so bland.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

You would trash the design work of Raymond Loewy (the father of industrial design, btw) done by the commission of Jacqueline Kennedy?

No.

No.

No.

No thank you.

No.

A thousand times, no.

Raymond Loewy said the following about the overlaiden chrome monstrosities Detroit was producing in the 50's:

"Jukeboxes on wheels, aesthetic aberrations that masked the workings of the machine beneath the layers of tawdry flash."

That quote could equally apply to the style, or lack thereof, of some of the liveries we're seeing flying today.

[Edited 2005-04-10 10:43:03]


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 882 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Watched a program about AF1 B707, and IIRC it was Jackie Kennedy that choose the baby blue colour on the 707!

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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 882 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

Ooops.....sorry, didnt read youre post!!!

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3976 times:

I love the colors! I like the blue design with it starting out as a stripe above the lighter blue and then the darker one expands to cover the cockpit. I love it but maybe the next plane in 8-15 years can have some red in it or have the US flag on the tail. Maybe get the eagle in their. It needs to represent America and the strong and bold look is very fitting. No need for changing it now.
I say, keep the blue just put red and the flag with an eagle.

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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

Absolutely not.

Not only is Air Force One, in reality, a military aircraft thus subject to exacting standards of military color scheme, it is the Private a/c of PotUS. We need not paint it up like a circus.

It's current scheme is recognized world wide. It is stately, professional, clean, and neat without seeming pretentious or braggadocious or arrogant.

And last time I checked there IS a flag on the tail. The only other decoration necessary is the Seal of the President of the United States, which adornes the forward fuselage below the cheat-line.


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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

I agree. The paint scheme on SAM 28000 & 29000 is nothing short of stunning. IMO, probably the most majestic scheme on any 747 to date.

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

Quoting BO__einG (Reply 2):
the presidential planes should not used as fancy showpieces to take away from its main purpose.

Try explaining that is not the case in Rome where all the other world leaders were looking for something that does 1/3 of what AF1 does!!!

That being said, I like the c/s and like the idea that it be as close to monolithic as possible. It helps project the certanty and stability that is THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!

Change is good for ailines, not governments!!


User currently offlineAmy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 1150 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

I think it could do with the SUD conversion, otherwise it's good  Smile


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User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

I think it looks good but they should make the belly the same blue color as the top.


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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Air Force One has many color schemes, depending on what the President is flying at any particular time. The VC-25A's are elegant planes, as are the C-40B's and C-32A's. Therefore, no.


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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3825 times:

Quoting Amy (Reply 10):
I think it could do with the SUD conversion, otherwise it's good

That and the winglets to look like the -400. Like so..............

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