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Which Airlines Has The Best First Class Cabin?  
User currently offlinePalladium From Indonesia, joined Apr 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 day ago) and read 13041 times:

Please share your thought..opinions ...
which airlines has the best first/business and economy class cabin?

I would go,

First : Emirates - Singapore Airlines
Business : Singapore Airlines
Economy : Emirates (huge PTV screen)

SQ's meal are superb.... =)

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User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 13024 times:

First=American
Business=American
Economy=American

Do you notice a pattern here?


User currently offlineIntothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 13022 times:

First= Emirates first on the A345
Business= SQ/LH new c class.
Economy= Hard there, Emirates is very good, but then it's 10 abreast on their 777's, so probably SQ again, 9 abreast, ptv's, good service, nice pitch.

Cheers, Konstantin G.

[Edited 2005-05-01 06:54:08]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 13021 times:

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 1):
Do you notice a pattern here?

Yup, you've only ever flown AA . . . sorry 'bout that, your loss.  biggrin 

My call:

US Domestic:
First: CO
Business/First Combo: CO
Business: UA
Economy: B6

International:
First: Singapore/Virgin
Business: Singapore/Virgin
Economy: Don't know, never done Y across either pond.


User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 13016 times:

NO I have actually flown many airlines thank you very much, just with the MRTC I see no Airline that compares to AA in the US Domestic Market. When AA nolonger has the MRTC which is coming soon, I will have a difference of opinion.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 13013 times:

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 4):
NO I have actually flown many airlines thank you very much, just with the MRTC

Geeeez, lighten up, did you see the smiley. . . . it was humor. No smiley, no joke. Take a break . . .relax, go drink something . . . legal of course . . . koolaid or a diet coke or something . . . .  biggrin .


User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 11 hours ago) and read 12985 times:

Good call ANCFlyer. Bloody kids, think they know everything, dont worry its just adolescence .

Airlinerfreak!

If you are talking about a Domestic Market, specify it. It was ANCFlyer who was reffering to the US Domestic Market, not you!

Besides United Airlines knock the s**t out of American anyway!

All smiles now!

Paul



Veni, vidi, vici.
User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 11 hours ago) and read 12983 times:

First= Virgin/EK
Business= SQ
Economy= EK/SQ

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
Economy: Don't know, never done Y across either pond.

Why you lucky sonofa.... Big grin



Try not to be jealous, we can't all be Czech.
User currently offlineUAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 12976 times:

First(domestic)- UA
First(int'l)- VS
Economy (domestic): UA Economy Plus
Economy (int'l) : VS


User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 12975 times:

Quoting Paul (Reply 6):
Besides United Airlines knock the s**t out of American anyway!

Yes, only if other people thought like you then United would be ahead of American in the number of people that fly the airline.


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3701 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 12971 times:

Fools, VS doesn't even have a First Class!

I can't be bothered to answer this for the eleventy-millionth time in the six months I've been here!



"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 12960 times:

Listen Airlinerfreak (nice name)!

American Airlines probably does have a higher passenger turnover rate because they are a bigger airline with more planes than United. Surely the more resources a company has, i.e planes, will facilitate the number of customers it can provide a product/ service for. So naturally American Airlines would fly more passengers than other Airlines.

Besides lil man, this was a Forum regarding quality of product, specifically First Class. Why a minor like yourself knows so much about First Class bewilders me. Must be generous parents or your gift of the gab at check- in with the upgrades! lol  Wink

Stay in school!

Paul



Veni, vidi, vici.
User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 12948 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
Fools, VS doesn't even have a First Class!

Well their upper class suite is more than equivalent to any other airlines First Class.



Try not to be jealous, we can't all be Czech.
User currently offlineUAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months ago) and read 12935 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
Fools, VS doesn't even have a First Class!

Equvilancy Chart:

Upper class - First Class
Premium Econ. - Business

That's even how it's listed for travel agents!

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
I can't be bothered to answer this for the eleventy-millionth time in the six months I've been here!

Let's hope there's not a seventh one...


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months ago) and read 12935 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
Fools, VS doesn't even have a First Class!

Their equivalent would be sufficient. Apparently, everyone knew what was being discussed, and only one of us here had to ruin the thread by being an ass. . . . any guesses?


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3701 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12908 times:

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 13):
Equvilancy Chart:

Upper class - First Class
Premium Econ. - Business

That's even how it's listed for travel agents!

Then those travel agents are crettins! Any travel agent that claims less than 40" pitch is a longhaul business product should not be a travel agent...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
Apparently, everyone knew what was being discussed, and only one of us here had to ruin the thread by being an ass. . . . any guesses?

 Yeah sure



"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
User currently onlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3767 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12895 times:

First: Emirates
Business: British Airways
Economy: Thai Airways (Great legroom)

Rob!


User currently offlineMikebg From Israel, joined Jan 2005, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12890 times:

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 13):
Equvilancy Chart:

Upper class - First Class
Premium Econ. - Business

That's even how it's listed for travel agents!

Not for my travel agent! The prices for Virgin Upper Class are, broadly speaking, in line with business class fares and not first class fares.


User currently offlineSQA340 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 702 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12884 times:

The Upper Class product of VS is definitely in the C class market. They compete with the C fares of most international carriers, but specifically compete with airlines like BA, LH (new), SQ, QF, EK and other airlines with C seats that are either lie-flat seats or suites. Many people confuse the Upper Class product as being an F product, as they are suites and the forward cabin of each international aircraft.

To answer the question:

Best F: EK's first cabin looks excellent although I've read in a trip report here that their service wasn't too great.

Best C: VS with the 70"+ seat pitch.. However, I really don't like how the seats face away from the windows and you end up facing your neighbors directly, which doesn't really help for privacy.

Best Y+: UA's Y+ and BA's WTP.

Best Y: Hard one, they all seem to be the same cruddy pitch but SQ, VS and QF have nice entertainment options


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12874 times:

Virgin's Upper Class Seat is, in my mind, a C Class product, while their UCS is a First-Class product...at least in as much as you have your virtual cabin in First, while in C you have a comfortable seat with another one right next to you.

I have NEVER been in First Class, but Utopia for me would be to experience BA's First. In fact I intend on doing this in June.

I have been in a few business classes though...BA, AA, UA, VS Seat, SR, ME...



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User currently offlineA330Fan1 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 856 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12838 times:

Thai Airways

Always had fantastic experiences with them. Great service in any class, great food, safe, and on time.


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12815 times:

The Upper Class Suite is definitely a business class seat and is marketed as such. Yes, the unique configuration makes it seem a bit more like first class, but the fact is, it's a J seat, in line with other business class prices. Also, how many first class cabins do you know that have over 40 seats? While the layout may be more like F, the overall personal space and large number of fellow passengers means that it could never be as such. And I think it's good that VS don't have a first class. By only offering a J/W/Y product they are able to focus on their business class product and offer services that aren't available for most business classes.

As for Premium Economy being like anyone's business class? No! There's a reason it's called Premium Economy. Unless you consider business to being a seat with 37" of legroom, marginally more seat recline that economy, and the same meal service as economy (with the added bonus of a welcome drink).

I'm not being hard on VS, I'm just stating that Virgin do not have a first class and the UCS should not be considered as such, nor should Premium Economy be considered business.

Now, with that said having never flown first I'll just go with what I've seen for First.

1. BA
2. Emirates
3. Singapore

LH423



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User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12762 times:

FBGDavidson is right - any travel agent that tells me that VS PE is a business class product deserves to be shot!

UCS is a great J product, but it is not F.

My votes for best F would be

EK on the 345
SQ
BA

in no particular order.



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12766 times:
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After looking at pictures of EKs first class cabins, I would have to say that EKs is the best

User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 12713 times:

EK's First is beautifaul from the passengers standpoint. But to me, from an FA's stadpoint, I think it's a bit "hoekie". With all the doors closed, it looks to me like some people have pitched a tent in the cabin of an airliner. Just doesn't look right.

Asthetically, I think SQ and BA First look the best.
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25 PresRDC : I've flown in international F on the following carriers: American Air France Egyptair British Airways Cathay Pacific Qantas Lan Chile In terms of seat
26 Shamrock_747 : Not in the UK. Upper Class is sold and ticketed as business class, and Premium Economy as an enhanced economy cabin.
27 Fbgdavidson : Egyptair! Where few dare!
28 BA380 : I adroee the BA First product. It is so understated and relaxed. Just perfect.
29 Post contains images Cathay pacific : I've only been on QF's F b4 and boy was I disappointed
30 Doona : Even though I am a huge fan of VS and Sir Richard, I am slightly annoyed by the fact that the Upper Class Suites are positioned pointing towards the a
31 Post contains images MH017 : Never flown in it, but judging by the A.net pictures I would choose SQ (sorry MH)
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