Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13896 times:
First= Emirates first on the A345
Business= SQ/LH new c class.
Economy= Hard there, Emirates is very good, but then it's 10 abreast on their 777's, so probably SQ again, 9 abreast, ptv's, good service, nice pitch.
Airlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13890 times:
NO I have actually flown many airlines thank you very much, just with the MRTC I see no Airline that compares to AA in the US Domestic Market. When AA nolonger has the MRTC which is coming soon, I will have a difference of opinion.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13887 times:
Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 4): NO I have actually flown many airlines thank you very much, just with the MRTC
Geeeez, lighten up, did you see the smiley. . . . it was humor. No smiley, no joke. Take a break . . .relax, go drink something . . . legal of course . . . koolaid or a diet coke or something . . . . .
Paul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13834 times:
Listen Airlinerfreak (nice name)!
American Airlines probably does have a higher passenger turnover rate because they are a bigger airline with more planes than United. Surely the more resources a company has, i.e planes, will facilitate the number of customers it can provide a product/ service for. So naturally American Airlines would fly more passengers than other Airlines.
Besides lil man, this was a Forum regarding quality of product, specifically First Class. Why a minor like yourself knows so much about First Class bewilders me. Must be generous parents or your gift of the gab at check- in with the upgrades! lol
SQA340 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 702 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 13758 times:
The Upper Class product of VS is definitely in the C class market. They compete with the C fares of most international carriers, but specifically compete with airlines like BA, LH (new), SQ, QF, EK and other airlines with C seats that are either lie-flat seats or suites. Many people confuse the Upper Class product as being an F product, as they are suites and the forward cabin of each international aircraft.
To answer the question:
Best F: EK's first cabin looks excellent although I've read in a trip report here that their service wasn't too great.
Best C: VS with the 70"+ seat pitch.. However, I really don't like how the seats face away from the windows and you end up facing your neighbors directly, which doesn't really help for privacy.
Best Y+: UA's Y+ and BA's WTP.
Best Y: Hard one, they all seem to be the same cruddy pitch but SQ, VS and QF have nice entertainment options
AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4524 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 13748 times:
Virgin's Upper Class Seat is, in my mind, a C Class product, while their UCS is a First-Class product...at least in as much as you have your virtual cabin in First, while in C you have a comfortable seat with another one right next to you.
I have NEVER been in First Class, but Utopia for me would be to experience BA's First. In fact I intend on doing this in June.
I have been in a few business classes though...BA, AA, UA, VS Seat, SR, ME...
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13689 times:
The Upper Class Suite is definitely a business class seat and is marketed as such. Yes, the unique configuration makes it seem a bit more like first class, but the fact is, it's a J seat, in line with other business class prices. Also, how many first class cabins do you know that have over 40 seats? While the layout may be more like F, the overall personal space and large number of fellow passengers means that it could never be as such. And I think it's good that VS don't have a first class. By only offering a J/W/Y product they are able to focus on their business class product and offer services that aren't available for most business classes.
As for Premium Economy being like anyone's business class? No! There's a reason it's called Premium Economy. Unless you consider business to being a seat with 37" of legroom, marginally more seat recline that economy, and the same meal service as economy (with the added bonus of a welcome drink).
I'm not being hard on VS, I'm just stating that Virgin do not have a first class and the UCS should not be considered as such, nor should Premium Economy be considered business.
Now, with that said having never flown first I'll just go with what I've seen for First.
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Boeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13587 times:
EK's First is beautifaul from the passengers standpoint. But to me, from an FA's stadpoint, I think it's a bit "hoekie". With all the doors closed, it looks to me like some people have pitched a tent in the cabin of an airliner. Just doesn't look right.
Asthetically, I think SQ and BA First look the best.