BRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 20 Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2724 times:
Sure you can escape to the rest of the aviation forum and find every second thread to be about United and their problems. I just wanted to start a thread for those of us who actually don't just see another airline when we fly United. Sure, United has its faults, but so do all other airlines. I would appreciate if those who want to bash United and talk about their future stay away from this thread and post in all of the other appropriate threads.
I really don't know if United will survive or not, and I don't think anyone here does. Sure, it is not looking good for them right now, but I think they can recover.
I am a frequent mileage runner, and initially tried to chose a good airline to accure these miles on. I eventually settled for United, with a little bit of skepticism. Looking back at it, I have absolutely NO regret. I have NEVER had a bad experience with them. This is not to say that they do not have their bad apples, but I simply have not come upon them. Here are a few things which I feel separate United from the others:
EXCELLENT service on the ground and in the air. No matter which employee, they have ALWAYS been very friendly.
EXCELLENT frequent flier program. I love the systemwide upgrades and regional upgrades.
Channel 9. Nothing beats listening to ATC.
Great fleet, including the 777 and the 747(not to mention no MD80's.
Amazing route network with great coverage in interesting areas
Great first class, especially with good food and features.
Great alliance which really will get you where you want to go.
There are many more things which others can contest to, but these are my major points. I, for one, will book and fly on United until their planes are chained up and no longer flying.
Your thoughts about United?(If you have something bad to say, at least do it in a constructive manner)
Moderators: Please leave this thread in this forum. It is not a poll or a preference, and I think it is fair in a time like this, because of all of the current problems.
"To find fault is easy: To do better may be difficult." -Plutarch
AirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2654 times:
I like United too. I like where they fly and thier fleet, NO MD80s. When I did fly United I always felt safe and the employees were very proffestional. I don't know if they will survive but this week is supposed to be critical to them because they have some deadlines at least thats what the local news said. I have no idea where United went wrong but perhaps they were paying their employees a little too much and maybe they weren't using their fleet efficiently. I do hope that an airline that big and with many connections around the world doesn't have to go down because many will suffer.
KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4993 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2619 times:
As many of you already know, I use to work for UA, this was my first airline experience, and even in other jobs ( Business Travel) I still had the feeling I was part of the family. UA will always be my favorite US Airline. ( And I've flown all the 'big' carriers ) Their service is just special, like SQ in Asia.
UNITED777ORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 261 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2552 times:
United Airlines has been the carrier of choice for me ever since I began traveling for business and leisure activites. Their hub at Chicago Ohare always fascinates me and the employees are some of the best in the industry. Best wishes and Godspeed to UAL if the future..
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Thread starter): I, for one, will book and fly on United until their planes are chained up and no longer flying.
FULL SUPPORT TO THE LAST DAY!!
I was born into a United family, and feel like a part of that family to this day. Days like this are difficult, as my Dad is affected by it, but he knew it was coming, just like many others. I can only hope that clearer heads will prevail in all this, and that UA can finally move forward one way or the other. It's been a difficult 5 years to say the least, so hopefully the roller coaster will slow down somewhat and people can reevaluate where they stand. All I can ask is that those working for UA who don't want to be there anymore will leave so that those who really do want to be there can help rebuild and continue on. Remember, Continental Airlines was in a similar position, in BK twice, and look where they're at now.
Today wasn't Ch. 7 folks, but hopefully skipping ahead a few pages to another beginning. The sooner we get out of Ch. 11, the better. The worst thing that could happen is that the restructuring isn't finished this time around, and that UAL would have to refile several years down the road, and the chances of reemerging a 2nd time are slim. I know of two airlines, one is still here, one isn't. Whether US reemerges and continues on is anyone's guess.
Regardless of what happens in the next few days, weeks, months, or years, some of the best memories I have are directly, and even indirectly, associated with United Airlines. They are and always will be a HUGE part of my life, and NO ONE can take that away...not a judge, not a corporate raider, not protest strikes. UA has made their fair share of mistakes...both sides have. The test now is whether the company is strong enough to move beyond it. My thinking is yes, I hope I'm proven right in the long run.
Aa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2393 times:
Although I worked for one of UA's biggest competitors, I do have several friends at UA and I wish them all the best. I have flown on UA several times on buddy passes, or ID90's or prize passes. I have always been treated very courteously, and professionally. Heck they even usually even upgraded me! Best of luck to all at UA. I really dont believe the unions have the balls to walk. I really dont believe their will be a strike.
PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1952 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2359 times:
I've flown Star Alliance carriers almost exclusively for the past 10 years. I've seen a remarkable turn around in UA customer service in the last 4 years. UA went from being the airline I loved to hate to the airline I appreciated the most.
I just wish UA employees would realize that today's events are actually a bailout for most employees. The pensions were already lost. UA's pensions were underfunded by $10 BILLION dollars. There is no way that anyone was going to get anything more than pennies on the dollar. This was the absolute reality of the situation before the judges decision. With the PBGC taking over, UA employees will at least have something. It is not what was promised. True. But UA had already lost any ability to keep that promise. UA could have gone Chapter 7, and still could if rational heads don't prevail.
RDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1318 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2358 times:
Count me in as a big fan of UA. IMO they have the best route network of any U.S. carrier. They cover 5 continents! Not to mention being a member of the Star Alliance (the best network IMO). I think UA needs to focus more on their Int'l routes, the competition is just too brutal right now in the U.S. If the strikes occur things will be shetchy, but I still have faith.
My two favorite reasons for being a UA fan: Ch. 9 and the 747-400.
I worked 2+ years for UAX, because UA doesn't fly to my city. I really enjoyed the service I experienced when non-reving on UA. As a side note I interviewed with UA at ORDEX last week, I'm hoping to hear something soon...fingers crossed!
Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2325 times:
Let's see, domestic 747-400's, 767's, and 777's...hot meals on transcons, free headsets with incredible music selections, extraordinarily friendly and efficient people working for them, very aesthetically pleasing terminals (not like some very blAAnd decors), and for me, a trip to the cockpit of N199UA (a 747-422)...I LOVE the friendly skies!! Every time I fly United, I am pleasantly reminded of what air travel used to be like.
It saddens me no end to see the problems United is having. It is just a shame that there isn't a market for an Economy Plus airline - I'd definitely pay extra knowing the service would be a bit better. How about y'all?
Pan Am:The World's Most Experienced Airline - P(oor) S(ailor's) A(irline): San Diego's Hometown Airline-Catch Our Smile!
F9HNLPLZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 108 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
I think this is an awesome thread. I too have a father that was affected by today's ruling. I can only hope that most of the UAL employees understand this is a difficult and hard thing to do today. I remember growing up and flying to Hawaii many times on United. This is truly a world class airline. The other threads seem to be full of people that just think of themselves. I wish UAL the best of luck and I see it coming out stronger. Please people, use your heads and don't kill a great company. United has great cities, great hubs, awesome gates, and GREAT PEOPLE!!!! You are all truly wonderful people. Show the world and the nation you care and you want this company to thrive. We are all praying for you.
Frontier Airlines, A Whole Different Animal. Maybe some day to Hawaii???
Christao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 894 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2277 times:
Wow, a positive thread. That's a nice change.
My Dad worked for UA his entire career; it was my Summer job after high school; it was where I met my husband; I still have a half-dozen friends flying for UA; and I'm a loyal 1K.
Do I want to see the company go down? Absolutely not. UA has had a great, albeit sometimes imperfect, history and with the right restructuring could really be a great competitor again.
One thing I've noticed over the years is the large numbers of 1Ks and Premier Execs who go out of their way to help out as UA ambassadors - and how many times have I done the same? Answer other pax's questions, guide them through the hub airport, help them use easy check-in... there are a lot of people out there who really want to help UA succeed and we'll stand by the employees and the company.
ZOTAN From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 571 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2254 times:
Well I will never forget the time I was let up in the cockpit of a 747 between LAX-DEN. I was an UM, and about 30 minute after departure one of the FA's asked me If I would like to see the cockpit. It was truly an unforgetable experience! I wish the best to UAL, its employees, and anyone who has been affected by whats going on right now.
BOSPMV From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 305 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2255 times:
I'll say one thing about UA, they are my choice airline for transcon flights. Every time I have ever had to go to San Fran or LA, they are always my choice out of BOS over AA, B6 and HP, who all offer daily tanscon flights to California out of BOS. I'll be flying them BOS-SFO-BOS this June. and
BOS-LAX-BOS later in the month.
sticking with the positives, who likes the new livery for UA? I think every livery they have ever had has been great.
CTHEWORLD From Mayotte, joined Dec 2004, 478 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2218 times:
For those who travel internationally, there is something special about going to the airport for your flight home and seeing the flag on the tail and UNITED across the fuselage. The feeling is one of having some of the comforts of home picked up and brought to a foreign land, especially when you have had a particularly rough time on said trip. When you board, you see friendly faces, proficient service and feel safe. Regardless of the flash and dash of other airlines, there is deep running sense of quality and pride at UA, not like some rent a crew airlines; from ground crew to pilots to flight attendants, there is a sense or meaning.
It is unfortunate that people have to take cuts, make sacrifices and shift their expectations, but such is life, there are no guarantees. The employees of UA will be judged by how they respond and their resilience. From past experiences I have had, I have hope they will do what is right.
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5448 posts, RR: 48 Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
As an Aussie in the IT business there have been periods when I felt I almost commuted to Silicon Valley, UA was the way to go (That other trans pac carrier doesn't go to SFO) but that was only the start, their service and attitude always made it a pleasure to travel with them.
A colleague who always flew QF/AA to DFW was kind of peeved at being forced to fly UA as it was now corporate policy as his company is now HQd in the bay area.. on his return he expressed amazement at the experience and wondered why he had suffered through so many indignities from other carriers in the past. I could only say.. told you so!
Good luck to all at UAL
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
Daron4000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 712 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2173 times:
I love UA, not only because they are the best airline in the US, but their fleet, route, seats, especially international seats on domestic runs, service, channel nine, free headphones, good tasting food and great entertainment.
FA4UA, out of curiosity, what routes do you commonly fly on?
UsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1003 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
I have never flown UA, nor do i know much about them, except the obvious. But i have always thought of UA as the biggest airline. they have so many flights to so many destinations all over the world, you would never think they would end up like this. i think its sad how an airline like UA could go from the top, to almost the very bottom. for now, they are in trouble, but i think they will find a way out of this rut.
i always wanted to fly UA, like on the 777 or 747, hopefully i will someday
25 BMIFlyer: I Love UA too, I always fly them (if im going from LHR) when crossing the pond. I hope they will be around for many years to come Cheers Lee
26 TWA902fly: Even though i have lately given my travel to NW/CO/DL because no one besides NW serves GFK... United is still my favorite airline. Having flown them m
27 UALPHLCS: Like Steven I too grew up in a United Familiy. My father got my cousin her interview at UA she still works for UA now at ORD. Her recomendation got me
28 UAalltheway: UA rocks the skies!! Are you kidding me?! They're soo awesome!! GO UA! lol Actually I'm in the middle of planning a trip right now from JAX to SEA thr
29 BRAVO7E7: Thank you all for sharing your experiences and your comments. This is EXACTLY how I feel!
30 UALPHLCS: BTW with all the bad news in the Civil Av forum I noticed the mods decided to move this thread. After all we can't have a positive UA thread in Civ Av
31 FriendlySkies: You guys just had to move this thread, didn't ya...
32 StealthZ: Well that didn't work... but as we know CivAv is for rumour and innuendo only and especcially if it is bad news about a major carrier!! Or an AvB fla
33 BRAVO7E7: Thanks, man. Considering that this is ABSOLUTELY NOT a poll OR a preference thread, I don't tunderstand it.
34 Boeing73G: 1. Economy plus is awfully hard to get into if you are a non-elite. Solution: UA would make a lot of by charging $25 to prebook Economy Plus seats to
35 FriendlySkies: Hey mods, how about moving this back to the forum it belongs in? What's wrong, we're not allowed to support the airline? BRAVO7E7: See if you can chan
36 UALPHLCS: So let me get this straight: A thread about the Amazing Race is OK on CivAV but a pro UA thread is not. Mods out of control again?
37 UA772IAD: I am a very adminant United Airlines fan. They are my hometown carrier (Washington, D.C.!!) and my lifelong carrier. I've also had nice experiences on
38 StealthZ: Kinda crazy isn't it!! Don't think your comment will get any attention... unlikely that a mod will ever see this thread again since it was consigned
39 VS747SPUR: Flown with United on two trips, London-Chicago-Denver-Chicago-London and London-Washington-Orlando-Washington-London, and they are amongst the best fl
40 UAalltheway: That is not exactly true. That's how UA prints it in the rules and stuff... but that's someho never worked with me. I have over 100 thousand miles in
41 Bravo7e7: Well, this is constructive at least. This would piss off the elites if their space was taken away. Do you recommend making the eco+ cabin larger, or w
42 United905: Im so glad to read this.Im so sick of reading negative things about ua.It seems to me that a lot of people cant wait to see ua fold.Most of them have
43 FriendlySkies: Well, there is one way to get it back in there...start a new one!
44 Uaalltheway: Ok let's clear up some stuff about economy plus here: To pre-book seats in Economy you must (either): - be UA elite - have a FULL (refundable ; usuall
45 Uaalltheway: I love United. It all started out when I start flying when I was around 4ish 5ish out of DES (I used to live in Des Moines ) and go to HDN and/or DEN
46 STLUAL747: I love United too. The only airline I fly is UA and that is going to stay that way. I honestly don't think they will go under, and the will get throug