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The 146/Avro: Beauty Or Beast?  
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19369 posts, RR: 52
Posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

The 146/Avro: beauty or beast?

"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
51 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
User currently offlinePMN From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 563 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4024 times:

Beauty. I've never been on the Smurfjet but there's something about the look of it I like.


Edith in his bed, a plane in the rain is humming, the wires in the walls are humming some song - some mysterious song
User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3790 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Beauty, I love seeing them on the ramp at BHXBig grin


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1706 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

Beast !

Have never seen such an ugly plane: engines too small, undercarriage weird position and flaps VERY noisy being extended/retracted !!!

Only positive thing is, it's roomy inside  Wink

don't throw away tomorrow !
User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4055 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

Beauty... I still need to fly it sometime.

User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

Beauty...they're just kinda cute. They look like little baby military cargo planes...leave one out in a field to graze for a while and it'll grow up into a C-141...  Big grin

User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 5):
They look like little baby military cargo planes...leave one out in a field to graze for a while and it'll grow up into a C-141...

I have always thought the same thing. It looks just like a babt C-141. Definitely a beauty.


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User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3956 times:


'nuff said

Try not to be jealous, we can't all be Czech.
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11939 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3947 times:

Absolute Beauty, looks great, performs great and why I flew on it by accident the other day it feels great too!

...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

Beauty, there is Just Something About it that Attracts me to it.


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User currently offline717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

It is definitely a unique looking beast, the 'pregnant mosquito' is!

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User currently offlineFlyboy1980 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2003, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

I used to crew the 146-300 for Air NZ, when they operated a few on a temporary basis.

Pax loved the 146 - we had 5 abreast seating which was very roomy and comfortable. They'd always say how much more comfy it was compared to the Air NZ 737-300s.

They could be a little cramped to work on, but overall were great.

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6526 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

  • Beauty to look at and for the passenger (with 5 abreast seating).
  • Beast to operate with these not very fuel efficient engines. Sadly the AVRO RJX was cancelled; it was the right aircraft at the wrong time ...

Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

With 2x3 seating - Beauty
With 3x3 seating (BA !!) - Beast

User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3862 times:

Definately BEAUTY

One of my favourite aircraft. To fly on, I've had the experience of both 2x3 and 3x3 seating and the former is definately superb, although I really couldn't see what all the whinging was about with regard to 3x3, its a bit tight but nothing traumatic like some have made out here in the past.

The only niggle was the vitually non-existant hand-luggage locker space for the seats under the wing, but let that be a lesson to those who take HUGE cases into the cabin when they ought to be checked in as hold luggage!

And let's face it, the 146/Avro reaches the parts other jets cannot reach!

Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3852 times:

amazing aircraft, very agile and convenient
I remember when Turkish first got them, i flew into Trabzon with a British captain giving line training at the time, it was a smooth flying and landing aircraft

most people complain about the flaps, to me, it was the one thing that helped make the avro more famous!
Could always tell when a 146 was overhead with the flaps in or out of the first setting lol

The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4187 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3850 times:


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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3848 times:


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User currently offlineIDISA From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

Beauty!! Unfortunately I've flown only one time with SN 146's... very nice aircraft!  Smile


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7744 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3833 times:

An absolute beauty!
Especially when you're inside and looking out...

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...how many other a/c can give a spectacular view like that?

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User currently offlineBAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3833 times:

Love 'em! Have flown many times in 3x3 config with FlyBE, and also on 3x2 (I think) on Blue1 - great little aircraft, even if they do look a tad "different"!

Ladies & gentlemen this is Captain Tobias Wilcock welcoming you aboard Coconut Airways flight 372 to Bridgetown Barb
User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 week ago) and read 3818 times:

Well, to remain within the confines of the question, I have to say beauty, although the 100/RJ70 series look a little stunted.

Having flown on Manx Airlines/BA G-MIMA oodles of times, I would say the best seat is 14F. First twin seat after the rows of triples, more legroom, more stowage space and chances are you get the seat to yourself.

Andy  old 

Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the take-off performance - those things rocket off the runway! Beauty for that alone!

Geoff M.

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19369 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

LOL Geoff.

Actually, I have only flown the 146 twice (I think), both times being on EI (BRS-DUB-BRS and BHX-DUB-BHX). It was extremely comfortable and pleasant. I didn't hear any flap noise though.

"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1464 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Of course a beauty!
And for all those complaining about the 3x3 seating. The cabin of the RJ is only 8cm tighter than the B737-3/4/5 cabin.

funny that some you thing about a military cargo plane when seeing the Bae or RJ because the BAe146 was planned as a military transporter but due to lack of orders they built an airline version.

Another thing is the RJ is very nice to fly great cockpit better the older B737 and pretty cool perfomrance e.g. LCY and FLR!

25 SLC1 : It's a plane, so it's a beauty, but if any plane could be a beast I think the Avro could fall into that caregory. I think it looks cute, but to me it
26 Post contains images Ryanair737 : Fantastic aircraft! Flown on 2 "variants" BAe 146-300 and Avro RJ100, thoroughly enjoyed all my flights on them. Very unique. Ryanair737
27 Eurohub : Couldn't agree more. Definitely my favourite type of aircraft. I've flown the 146-200 with CityJet and the RJ100 with CitiExpress. Perhaps its just m
28 HAWK21M : Looks neat. regds MEL
29 Post contains images Alphafloor : The 146/Avro is a beauty. It's the only a/c to have 5 APUs !!! Alphafloor
30 Post contains images HorizonGirl : This beautiful aircraft is one of my favourites. And by the way, the noise the flaps make is one of the things I like about it! Don't insult it, it's
31 Post contains images Thom@s : Neither, but I wouldn't call it ugly. Thom@s
32 Post contains images AR1300 : MH017, seems like you are the only one who doesn't like it. Me myself,I like them.I saw them flying over my head countless times during my years in Ch
33 Crox1 : It's a BEAUTY. STOL, Quiet, it is the whisper Jet, the 1st and until recently the only jet allowed at LCY. Lets not foget how economic it is for a jet
34 VirginFlyer : Beauty - I flew on them a number of times when they were operated by Ansett New Zealand. It's a great shame they don't make them any more... V/F
35 Post contains links and images UAalltheway : Beauty! View Large View MediumPhoto © Tuisku Heikkinen Kind of reminds me of the BaE-146, only this one's much better looking. Gotta love those 4
36 Airlinerfreak : Beauty, I believe I flew on one of Uniteds, I am not sure if it is that same plane but it looks similar, and I loved it. It was one of my best flights
37 EMBQA : Beauty to look at and fly on..... Beast to work on........
38 Post contains images Airbuseric : Wonderful planes, great views out of the window! You're sure that you're not seated above the wing! Flew many times on Swiss RJ100's with reasonable s
39 Post contains links and images Birdwatching : View Large View MediumPhoto © Bjorn van der Velpen Hahaha funny picture!
40 Post contains images EDDM : My favourite narrowbody.
41 Post contains images A340600 : I love these little babies! Can't wait to fly one of them, booking soon! Sam
42 Post contains images UAalltheway : I think you're reffering to the AWAC BaE-146. Yea, it's deffinitly a great aircraft to fly on.
43 PacificWestern : Beauty!!!! I love the plane. It may be a fuel guzzler, but it's great comfort to ride in. Sadly, AC-Jazz no longer flies the aircraft.
44 ACdreamliner : its lovely. nice to see a little differance...
45 Post contains images Luke : I have my first BAe 146 flight when I go to the Paris Air Show in a couple of weeks. I'm flying with flybe. At least I know about and am prepared for
46 Post contains images Barcode : I flew with Swiss (MAN-ZRH) on the Avro last month. Very comfortable - I'm not sure I prefer it to the ERJ though. I'll be making another trip on the
47 ZRH : Beauty. I flew many times with them on Crossair and Swiss. With its 2-3 seating it is most comfortable. You have a good view from all window seats bec
48 Post contains links and images ZKEOJ : Beauty all the way! I flew them with Ansett New Zealand a few times, and always loved it more than then NZ's 732s at that time. Also been on LH and QF
49 Xtristarx : beauty! i love the four apu's
50 Post contains images UAalltheway : Luke, Welcome to A.net and enjoy your visit to the france air show. Joe (aka UA All The Way)
51 Post contains links and images Luke : Thanks Joe! View Large View MediumPhoto © Tony Marlow I'll post a 146 trip report after my Paris trip.
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