Comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4675 posts, RR: 17 Reply 7, posted (7 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 2992 times:
None give you your money's worth - transatlantic premium class fares are simply absurd - just remember that for an $8K roundtrip fare you are subsidizing quite a few leisure travelers.
The best premium product by far is BA Club World on the upper deck on a 747 if you are a frequent business traveler and like discreet service. A close second is First on BA in the front of the 747, followed by First on LH. After that First on any 777 or 330/340 - the upper deck or 747 'nose' cabin experience is quite unique.
KLM and SQ were competent experiences transatlantic - nothing more or less. AI which had won awards as best transatlantic carrier in the 60's is not bad in First on a good day.
The ultimate way transatlantic of course was Concorde, at which AF was just a bit better than BA - 'je ne sais quoi' contributing to the magical flying experience.
In summary, like most flying experiences, the cabin crew on any given day is what counts. The 747 is the best plane for premium passengers because of the unique Upper Deck and Forward cabin exclusivity. Avoid flying biz in a T7 as the engine rumble will drive you up the wall on a long flight.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3688 posts, RR: 31 Reply 9, posted (7 years 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 2965 times:
Quoting Comorin (Reply 7): The best premium product by far is BA Club World on the upper deck on a 747 if you are a frequent business traveler and like discreet service. A close second is First on BA in the front of the 747
How do you work that one out? Business better than First?
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
Comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4675 posts, RR: 17 Reply 10, posted (7 years 12 months 4 hours ago) and read 2945 times:
Fbgdavidson,
BA service is top-notch across all classes, so it becomes a question of which seat and where in the plane do you want to sit. 2+2 on the upper deck (roomy, quiet), in my very humble opinion, is just a great place to be. Granted that the First seats are slightly more comfortable, the food and wine is slightly better, perhaps not everybody would agree with me.
Long ago, before there were pod seats and First was a lot more social, and you had the full Trolley service, well, First was far superior to Biz.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3688 posts, RR: 31 Reply 11, posted (7 years 12 months 4 hours ago) and read 2942 times:
Quoting Comorin (Reply 10): BA service is top-notch across all classes, so it becomes a question of which seat and where in the plane do you want to sit. 2+2 on the upper deck (roomy, quiet), in my very humble opinion, is just a great place to be. Granted that the First seats are slightly more comfortable, the food and wine is slightly better, perhaps not everybody would agree with me.
I am quite familiar with the Club World service, and am also fan of the upstairs. Particularly based on the fact I am yet to have small children seated up there This was opposed to my flights on the 777 where a small howling child seems to keep the whole flying youth hostel awake
Having said that I just wouldn't turn down an upgrade to First.
Are you a 62K or 64K man?
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
Pilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2498 posts, RR: 50 Reply 13, posted (7 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 2931 times:
I havent flown BA in several years, i shall have to try them out the next time i cross the Atlantic, the only reason why i was using LH was because they had service to ANKARA , for BA i would have to jet over to IST
The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
Lfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3195 posts, RR: 31 Reply 16, posted (7 years 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 2909 times:
I enjoyed my flight(s) onboard KLM from the US to AMS to India... Nice attentive, smiling crew not to mention hot! ... I had good food too... even though it was economy...
Leo/ORD -- Groetjes uit de VS! -- Heeft u laatst nog met KLM gevlogen?
JetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2876 times:
VS
BA
LH
UA*
KL
AF
*I took UA from JFK-LHR-JFK and the service was great, got a 763, and an overall EXCELLENT experience. I loved it but I don't know how everything else was. (And this was in Coach so I guess the upper classes were great to).
UA seems to have a better international product then the domestic (still god though).
FlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6297 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2869 times:
Well I flown VS and its a great airline.
I also like AA international atleast on the 777!
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
VS747SPUR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2852 times:
Iv flown VS, DL and UA across the pond and I have to say I like flying UA the most. I loved channel 9 and the food was superb. The FA's were also very helpful and talkative. I also love going on the 777 too.
VS is also very good, I just think the service is so inconsistant, sometimes get FA's who are brilliant, other times they can be so rude. I also find VS very expensive nowadays (got quoted £800 to fly LGW-MCO-LGW in August, chose DL instead for £370 via ATL).
No it is BA all the way! Don't pinch BA's advertising slogans as well as their top destinations!
Sadly I did not fall for all the gimmickery of VS and their cabin crew sadly came across as amateurs as they tried to be comedians on my last VS flight.
MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
MH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1633 posts, RR: 34 Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2827 times:
Pilotaydin,
Since you didn't mention the routing, may I suggest ARN-EWR on MH ?
Especially, try their C- or F-class
don't throw away tomorrow !
25 Pilotaydin: of course you may suggest it! im trying to pick up all i can on opinions, as well as interesting routes, ive never been to Sweden, or anywhere in the
26 VS747SPUR: I too have experienced this, left me and alot of fellow passengers quite annoyed because after a while it wasn't funny. I may of seen the funny side