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VS Or BA - Who Do You Choose?  
User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

Hi there,

The contenders for the nations leading carrier are both VS and BA, who do you choose?

Personally speaking I will choose VS over BA every time with out fail. I love the image that Virgin have as a company, and I love the leading force behind it all, S.R.B. Virgin Atlantic Airways to me are this young, classy, non-chav airline and that is why they get my vote every time. I certainly cannot wait to try some of their Premium Classes!

I'm looking forward to your answers!

Regards,
Justin Big grin

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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

I vote VS, but BA does come in very close behind!

I think that VS and BA are one of the top airlines in the world!

Rob!


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Quoting Jkw777 (Thread starter):
Virgin Atlantic Airways to me are this young, classy, non-chav airline

I think VS does attract way more chavs than BA...I think it is the LGW South factor.

I'd also say they were more gimmicky, as opposed to classy.



"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
User currently offlineACdreamliner From UK - Scotland, joined May 2005, 519 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

VS, no questions asked. BA does not do it for me, as I have mentioned in many other posts!

I love everything about Virgin, the fleet, the seats (although i've never had the chance to sit in them, but they look nice  Wink). Most of all I love the brand image, 'Virgin' is a great name, and I love the ads, such as the 'If you wanted to sleep with him, you'd have married him', lol. Also i love the slogans on the back on the A346 G-VSHY, 'Mine is bigger than yours', also the 'Virgin seeks travel companion(s)'...

They are great, one of the possible carrier moves (if i don't set up my own airline or move to Canada), would be to work for Virgin Atlantic. I mean, what other CEO sents EVERY one of him employees in every part of the group a Christmas Present?



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User currently offlineJMJAirways From Sweden, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

Hey!

I have alreday choosen VS for my first transatlantic flight !
VS gets my vote !

Best regards



I am willing to pay extra for a A346 flight !
User currently offlineNcfc99 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 750 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4476 times:

I would choose VS over BA. I has nothing to do with the service or the planes of either airline as I have only ever been on a BA flight to Italy. It is to do with SRB. He started his business empire from very humble beginnings and has built it up himself in the face of some very stiff competition. I have nothing but admiration for the guy and would therefore choose his airline over BA.

User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4463 times:

One thing I would add is I am not keen on is the attitude of the VS FAs. I get the impression from many reports that they are trying to be your mates during the flight. While I see no problem with staff obviously enjoying their work I get the impression this goes a step further. My father who has flown with BA on business very regularly took a flight with VS at short notice and found a similar attitude, which verged on being unprofessional.

This somewhat ties in with an experience I had in Washington DC hotel, I was waiting for my car to take me to Dulles when a load of VS staff turn up in the lobby, as their rooms are not quite ready (this was early afternoon) they hang around. They loosen off their uniforms, unbuttoned jackets and I hear a group of them, including a female FA talking rather loudly about a rather intimate night (in rather too much detail....the way he was going down on her, blowjob techniques et al) with another colleague. Although I hardly believe this is way all VS staff conduct themselves bearing in mind they were in full uniform and there were young children nearby I thought this was extremely unprofessional and certainly tainted my view of the airline. The same would have been said for any other airline crew had I witnessed the same behaviour.

Quoting ACdreamliner (Reply 3):
(if i don't set up my own airline or move to Canada)

Are you really going to call your airline Toerag? (as per your profile  Wow! )



"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
User currently offlineACdreamliner From UK - Scotland, joined May 2005, 519 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4445 times:

lol, maybe! well its actually Project Toerag. I called it that, but now i like the name so it may well be Toerag. Its part of the marketing idea for the airline.

- A different livery, one that stands out.
- A name people will notice as its different.

However, depending on how I and the other 2 founding members feel at the launch it may be something else...



Where are you going?
User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4514 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4440 times:

My feeling is that Virgin may have more panache but BA is just more polished and professional.

For economy, I don't know who I'd choose, but probably Virgin.

For premium economy, I'd choose BA, unless I knew I was going to get upgraded with VS.

For business class travel, I'd choose Virgin's Upper Class Suite over BA's flat bed and would choose BA's flat bed over VS's Upper Class Seat.

For truly premium travel, I'd choose BA's First Class over just about anything, including my own G550 (if I had one).

There are some things that I prefer about Virgin. For instance, the existence of the limousine transfer with the J fare. The massage on board. The good looking F/As. The fact that you get 1.5x mileage with Premium Economy as opposed to BA's 1.25 (i think its that). The V:Port system and the Clubhouse.

But there are other things that I prefer about BA. For instance, the absence of A340s in the fleet. The RB211s on the 744s and 763s and 752s, the fact that BA can take me on short haul as well as long haul. The well-kept interiors, even on BNLA! The blue colour scheme, the molton brown spa and lastly, what I consider to be fantastic service.

All in all, I like both carriers. But I think that if my life were to flash before my eyes my ticket to wherever I am going would be on BA.



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

BA all the way. Much as I dislike them (I work for BACX!) I will say they are far more efficient and polished than VS.

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4417 times:

BA... though I am biased!

I've had good experiences on VS in all their classes but I believe they lack the overall levels of quality and professionalism that BA have. The gimmicks and slogans really don't appeal to me either. I much prefer BA's understated class and business-like atmosphere over multi-coloured seats, rap music, sexual innuendo and other nonsense!

Quoting Jkw777 (Thread starter):
The contenders for the nations leading carrier are both VS and BA, who do you choose?

Comparing their full year financial results it is clear who the leader is!  Smile


User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1585 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4410 times:

I think VS does attract way more chavs than BA...I think it is the LGW South factor.

I'd also say they were more gimmicky, as opposed to classy.

Agreed. Chav-central on VS I think (no offence Judd  Wink )

I wouldn't normally chose either, but if pushed, would go for BA - no question.

Neither is strong on personal comfort for me, but I have done 5 or 6 VS flights and am still waiting to be impressed. Seems like a lot of hot air.

BA promise a good, solid product and consistently deliver. Not bad at all.


Mark



All my life, I've been kissing, your top lip 'cause your bottom one's missing
User currently offlineMANTEC From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 57 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4406 times:

BA anytime for me. I have flown with both BA and VS and there is no comparison. I flew BA to Caracas with a 5 week old baby, the BA FAs were superb with her and looked after her for practically the whole flight including feeding and changing. In fact I had a job getting her back off them when we landed!
On the other hand , I flew with Virgin to Miami from Gatwick on an old beaten up 747 that had definitely seen better days, and being a man of genuine proportions I found the seats too narrow and my hips were sore to the point of bruising on landing. I found the FAs almost indifferent to the need of the PAX and felt they were an inconvenience on "their" flight. I was not impressed with the service and aircraft on that flight.

However, I would not want to slag Virgin off too much because recently they have moved into the big league with better aircraft and more facilities and comforts for PAX. I only hope that the FAs attitude has improved somewhat from my experiences.
On the whole we have 2 world class airlines here in the UK but for me BA have the edge.

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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

I think VS has an edge over BA. They have a more relaxed atmosphere and it appeals to more people. BA has more of an appeal to the businessmen or the uptight people that prefer very professional airlines over airlines that are not as up-tight as the others.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 6):
This somewhat ties in with an experience I had in Washington DC hotel, I was waiting for my car to take me to Dulles when a load of VS staff turn up in the lobby, as their rooms are not quite ready (this was early afternoon) they hang around. They loosen off their uniforms, unbuttoned jackets and I hear a group of them, including a female FA talking rather loudly about a rather intimate night (in rather too much detail....the way he was going down on her, blowjob techniques et al) with another colleague. Although I hardly believe this is way all VS staff conduct themselves bearing in mind they were in full uniform and there were young children nearby I thought this was extremely unprofessional and certainly tainted my view of the airline. The same would have been said for any other airline crew had I witnessed the same behaviour.

Yea but they are not working then. You can't judge them on what they do out of work. Their can be BA F/A's that talk like that out of work, that doesn't mean that the FA's are unprofessional and such.

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User currently offlinePlanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1008 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4386 times:
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I have flown both on Economy. VS wins by a mile and more.

VS: Full entertainment system with really classy service.

BA: Not even newspapers, apparently the people of economy class should not be allowed to read (or perhaps are illiterates).

I would never fly BA if I have a choice.

My 2 cents.

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc


User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 13):
Yea but they are not working then. You can't judge them on what they do out of work. Their can be BA F/A's that talk like that out of work, that doesn't mean that the FA's are unprofessional and such.

The manner in which you behave in uniform does affect how people view the airline. This is one of the reasons why BA has very strict standards for how we look and behave while in uniform. Once it's on, you are representing the company.

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 13):
BA has more of an appeal to the businessmen or the uptight people that prefer very professional airlines over airlines that are not as up-tight as the others.

You seem to suggests that regular travellers don't want professional service and this is far from the case. Everyone, business persons or simple holiday travellers all require and deserve the same level of professionalism from which ever carrier they fly with.

Admittedly I am biased given the carrier I work for, but having flown both BA and VS in recent months, BA does have a higher level of service and concern for passenger needs. Having to search for a FA on VS and then being made to wait for almost an hour just to get water or juice after waking up on an overnight flight, does not give a good impression. Added to that, overhearing comments from other passengers on arrival at LGW, VS did not leave a good impression on many during that flight.


User currently offlineWunala From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4372 times:

BA, for the network, the lounges, on board services, and ffp's.

I still have images of VS being a charter company.


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4367 times:

I flew BA on a codeshare flt with QF in 2001 and hated it.

Old plane, crew did not seem to care and disapeared for most of the flt to SIN

That has all changed now and i would pick BA over VS any day. I love making passengers happy when they call asking for flt info and seating. As we always get told, BA Customer support is sometimes the first time a passenger has spoken to BA themselves and a first impresion counts. I feel good when i haev sent someone away smiling as i know they will have a good flt.

I am of course biased, but having flown a international and domestic only once with them, i have seen how much they have improved, and are wanting to improve more, for the sake of passengers and making there trip a good one.

I read a website last year with over 500 complaints against VS and after that, do not really think i would fly them to the states (maybe only to get on a 340)


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4342 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 13):
Yea but they are not working then. You can't judge them on what they do out of work. Their can be BA F/A's that talk like that out of work, that doesn't mean that the FA's are unprofessional and such.

Rubbish! What if my only firsthand of experience of VS is how those staff chose to conduct themselves in that hotel lobby. How am I to know otherwise how they behave? If I knew nothing better based on that experience alone I wouldn't fly with VS...however I do know better and still don't fly with VS  Silly

Those FAs behaved extremely unprofessionally and were foolish to do so in full uniform!



"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4333 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 18):
Those FAs behaved extremely unprofessionally and were foolish to do so in full uniform!

Absolutely! As Speedbird2155 pointed out we have strict uniform standard guidelines at BA. A colleague of mine was recently formally disciplined for having an inappropriate mobile phone conversation in front of customers whilst in uniform - such things are simply not tolerated at BA.


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

British Airways all the way.


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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4310 times:

Quoting Planemannyc (Reply 14):
BA: Not even newspapers, apparently the people of economy class should not be allowed to read (or perhaps are illiterates

You do get newspapers. I got one on a domestic flt to LHR from MAN??

And anyway. If ur going on a long haul, ur bound to have already got a paper, or even a book to read on the flt. Or like me, just looking forward to getting the PTV's up and running for the films

[Edited 2005-06-07 01:30:50]

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

I have never flown on either airlines. But I worked for a handling company that handled both airlines.

From the observation on the ground....

VS
PROS - great marketing, "apparently" more for you money. Young, hip, fun, bright colorful. Pretty young crew, great IFE.

CONS - Seating config in coach, is too cramped. Smaller airline, less destinations.

BA
PROS - bigger airline, bigger alliance, more destination choice. Comfortable seating in all classes. Pretty good IFE. Soothing colored interior.

CONS - less exciting, older crowd, more traditional, the inflight service may not be as great as VS, but this is sometimes very dependent on the crew that happen to be working the flight that day.

What would I fly? In premium class, VS. In economy class, BA.



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