Vanguard From Solomon Islands, joined Feb 2004, 103 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7128 times:
Prompted by another thread (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2172999/) I was wondering what the best way is of booking non-obvious routings at a reasonable cost is?
For instance. If I wanted to fly LHR - SYD, I could go to any of the usual websites (Expedia, Airnet etc) and they would return the usual carriers and routes. However, suppose I wanted to go LHR - SIN on Biman via Dacca, then SIN - Jakarta - BNE on Indonesian then BNE - SYD on Qantas. Returning via Bahrain & Vienna on Gulf air and Austrian.
Am I stuck with paying the full rate, or is there a website those 'in the know' use to pay cheap fares on these flights which in effect are one-way ones?
Ahlfors From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 1339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7079 times:
Most likely you'd be stuck paying full fare, or at least the cheapest one-way fares. The only exception is if a published fare allows more than one airline (which you can come across sometimes, especially within alliances). And of course, if you're flying a complex itinerary but all on one airline, including codeshares, you can find a decent price.
For the example you gave, I would highly doubt there is any way to get it much cheaper than effectively purchasing a bunch of one ways.
- This website has lots of info on air passes as well as RTW fares. A bunch of info on this site about the standard alliances as well as odd partnerships that offer reasonable RTW fares (ie - UA & SV, CO & SQ, etc...) I hope this helps.
- They do RTW and circle fares very well on this site, although they are high. I used it as a guide to see how much places like airbrokers.com and airtreks.com were saving me. You can do very complex trips with orbitz, just go to the flights tab, select multi-city and go to town. I hope this helps.
Trolley Dolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6798 times:
I used to work as a travel agent, so I would suggest seeking their advice as well. Often, particularly for longer routes, airlines have combo fares that normally can't be booked via the web. Also, some IATA rules, escpecially for funny routes like that, allow you to mix airlines at cheaper rates than full mileage fares. Still, expect it to be more expensive than the cheapesr single airlines fares.
Evolution From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6758 times:
The best way of finding the best fares for complex routings is to speak to an expert!
Computers will only give you 'literal' answers and won't be able to advise you of some of the 'quirks'. For example, how to fly Finnair on a Qantas return to OZ or what route will do a Star Alliance RTW ticket from London in exactly 29.000 miles!
There is also a general rule when it comes to multi-sector itineraries: The further you fly with one airline (or airline group (oneworld/star etc) the cheaper the ticket.
EurofleetLHR From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6723 times:
Try the Star Alliance Round-The-World offer - up to 15 stopovers, travel either eastbound or westbound, the lowest fare is limited to 29,000 miles in total.
Fares differ from country to country, for some reason flying from Stockholm is cheaper than anywhere else in Europe. (I flew to ARN, and booked the ticket - they even allowed me to fly back to LHR that afternoon on my first leg). Valid for 12 months - you can even change the itinerary once your first intercontinental sector has been flown).
I have done it twice now - it is an excellent way to sample the different airlines /airliners they have. I believe the Y Class fare is around GBP1000. I flew Business Class for under GBP2400.
The 2 itineraries I have done were as follows :
ARN-LHR SK MD80
LHR-YYZ AC B744
YYZ-ORD AC A319
ORD-DEN UA B772
DEN-LAX UA B744
LAX-HNL-NAN NZ B763 (HNL was not used as a stopever)
NAN-AKL NZ B733
AKL-BNE NZ B744
BNE-SYD AN B744
SYD-HKG AN B744
HKG-BKK TG B772
BKK-SIN SQ B772ER
SIN-KTM SQ A310
KTM-DEL-VIE NG B763 No stopover in DEL)
VIE-ARN OS A320
ARN-MUC LH Avro
MUC-EWR LH 737-BBJ (Privatair)
EWR-YYZ AC A319
YYZ-YVR AC A340
YVR-LAX AC A319
LAX-NRT-SIN SQ B744 (No stopover in NRT)
SIN-BKK SK A340
BKK-HKG TG B744
HKG-NRT NH B772
NRT-SEL OZ A321
SEL-PEK OZ B744
PEK-VIE OS A340
VIE-CDG OS A320
CDG-AMS RG MD11
AMS-ARN SK B736
If you exceed 29,000 miles, the fare does increase.
The Star Alliance website has a downloadable programme that allows you to do some experimenting with routings, and it will calculate the mileage for you as well.