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Aer Lingus / Icelandair / Jetblue  
User currently offlineNworlnsbearcub From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 166 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6845 times:

Hello!

I wanted to get everyone's opinions on each carriers' transatlantic service. I am considering going back to Europe after MANY years, and only have experience with KLM and Yugoslav Airlines. That was a very long time ago. I am also trying to re-conquer my fear of flying, so I want to travel with great service, and EXCELLENT safety records, not to mention a lot of distraction(media). I am open to any carrier, but have always been curious about these two.

Michael
New Orleans

....I am also very curious about Jetblue to JFK from MSY . Any opinions ?

[Edited 2005-06-27 02:39:06]


Long after the thrill of low price, lingers the bad taste of low quality..
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User currently offlineJepstein From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6804 times:

Uh...I don't believe JetBlue has transatlantic flights. As for the others, I've never been on them.

Also, you said you wanted to re-conquer your fear of flying. RELAX! Flying is fun! Don't you know this from being on this site for a while? I'm not trying to be rude or anything but I find it a bit strange that you don't like flying yet you're interested in aviation. I'm sort of the same way too.

I don't know how much entertainment is on Icelandair since the planes are just 757's and the flight isn't that long. I think some of Aer Lingus's planes have personnel TV's (PTV) but I don't know which ones. Alot of airlines have this situation so check what you're going on.

If you do go to Europe I'm sure you'll do fine.  Wink

P.S. When was the last time you went on a flight?


User currently offlineNworlnsbearcub From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6796 times:

about 4 yrs ago was my last flight....


Also, I said Jetblue to JFK................

I've had an intense passion about the industry since I was a child. That does not mean I love the flying part. There's just something so...incredible about it all.. I can't even explain. There's nothing that gives me the same feeling as watching a DC-10 take off..

Michael
New Orleans



Long after the thrill of low price, lingers the bad taste of low quality..
User currently offlineTommy777 From Norway, joined May 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6738 times:

Have been on both the airlines you are referring to. Icelandair flies the 757, which is like a bloated 737 with just one isle. I dont know what class you are planning on flying in, Icelandairs business class, Saga class, has no more legroom than UAs domestic First Class, not comfortable at all. Also get ready for a stop at Iceland, delaying your journey by a couple of ours (unless you plan to see the beautiful island)

Aer Lingus I have flown once, on one of the earliest A330s. The plane had no personal tvs, and the service was about average. I had emergency exit seats both ways, so I was comfortable. The newer planes are better equipped

If you are flying economy class, I recommend United, with their economy plus they have the best legroom in the business. You can buy an upgrade to E+ at the airport if you dont have a UA "Premier card" (not flying for 4 years, you probably dont have that) The service is the same as economy, but you get great legroom. UA also uses the 777 to Great Britain, and most destinations in Europe, a bigger, more comfortable plane. UA is by far my favorite US carrier

If you are looking to spend a little more money, I can recommend British Airways Premier Economy called World traveler Plus. It is not that more expensive and gives you great comfort and your money worth. The seats are wider and the legroom is a lot better, you also get an outlet for charging your laptop.

Just remember to book your seat in advance, check www.seatguru.com for help

Hope this was helpful.

Have a nice trip!


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6577 times:

No experience with Icelandair, but if you do have a fear of flying, I'd go with a larger aircraft.

Aer Lingus service is currently under heavy criticism... yet they are carrying more passengers and making more money than ever... so it can't be too bad. I'd rate their trans-Atlantic service as average, nothing brillinat but not in any way bad. Aer Lingus do have an excllent safety record. And their cabin crews tend to be very friendly and transmit a relxed ambience throughout the cabin.

After an incident a number of years ago, (on Lufthansa), I went through about 4 years of being terrified flying, epecially during take off and initial climb (probably as my incident took place just after take off)... I was so scared I was often on the verge of tears and more than once considered not boarding! With much self-will, some prescribed tranquilizers here and there, and many flights with Aer Lingus, I have regained my love of flying, which is wonderful! Maybe it's just the fact that I'm Irish thay I always feel so relaxed on an Aer Lingus flight.

I would recommend Aer Lingus simply due to the 'usually' friendly staff and friendly/relaxed yet throroughly professional approach of the Irish. No matter who you choose, relax, enjoy your flight, don't depend on alcohol to get you over your nerves (get something presrcibed by your doctor... much more effective) and ENJOY.



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineGuyBetsy1 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6549 times:

I think the final decision will depend on your fare...

Once you start mixing carriers, you will end up with a higher fare.

Try sticking with one airline throughout or one that is part of an alliance.

Note : The larger the aircraft, the better the stability in flight.


User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6446 times:

Jetblue is a great airline.If u choose them to JFK you will have comfy leatherseats,a personal tv ad friendly staff.
About Icelandair,well they are ok , but not my first choice for transatlantic.They use 757s which are pretty nice , but not for a long flight.Also you will have to make a short stop in Reykjavik.If u do then spend a day or two there, its a lovely city.
It really depends what city you are planning on visiting.As u are affraid of flying i would recomend you Scandinavian Airlines.They have great service,lots of enterntainement and friendly staff.You ll have your personal TV and they have cameras in front and under the plane during takeoff and landind.pretty interesting, and may get your mind off the actual takeoff or landig.Also for connections Copenhagen and Stockholm Airports are smaller and less busy then for example LHR ,CDG or FRA.Scandinavian have frlights from Newark to both Stockholm and Copenhagen.The other choice i would recomend you KLM.They use 777 from JFK to AMS and they have personal tvs and very friendly staff.also AMS is one of teh most passenger friendly airports.
If u like great service and lots of enterntainement you may want to try out one of teh asian airlines flying to Europe. Singapore Airlines flyes JFK to FRA with 747.They have great service with their famous Krisworld enternatinement.and tehir crew is very friendly.
The other one is Malaysia Airlines which fly Newark -Stockholm.They fly also with 747 , but they only have 3 weekly flights (Mondays,Thursdays and Saturdays)However their enterntainement and crew are great.Also you will be well fed.And Stockholm is a great city to visit  Wink
Anyway ,hope you have great fun with your trip.And dont forget to tell the crew youre affraid of flying, then you wil be looked after a bit better  Wink



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User currently offlineJepstein From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6219 times:

Quoting Nworlnsbearcub (Reply 2):
Also, I said Jetblue to JFK................

Sorry for the Mix-up! I've never been on JetBlue.



Quoting Nworlnsbearcub (Reply 2):
I've had an intense passion about the industry since I was a child. That does not mean I love the flying part. There's just something so...incredible about it all.. I can't even explain. There's nothing that gives me the same feeling as watching a DC-10 take off..

I agree completly!!!  biggrin   biggrin   biggrin 


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6199 times:

Quoting Tommy777 (Reply 3):
Also get ready for a stop at Iceland, delaying your journey by a couple of ours (unless you plan to see the beautiful island)

That reason is why I'd definitely fly Icelandair if I was ever going to Europe... just for the chance for that brief side trip in such a scenic, interesting little place. And to break up the long Trans-Atlantic flight Icelandair would be awesome, because I tend to get bored sitting in cruise for a long time, I love the t/o, climb, descent, landing parts but cruise can be boring sometimes.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 4):
After an incident a number of years ago, (on Lufthansa), I went through about 4 years of being terrified flying, epecially during take off and initial climb (probably as my incident took place just after take off)...

Not to be personal... but mind sharing the incident?? If it's a problem then just disregard.  Smile


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

Well jetBlue to JFK will be great, I am sure you know all the fun stuff so I won't go into it, so onto transatlantic:
-If you get bored while in flight, then I may suggest taking Icelandair and gating the break in the middle of the trip and I hear Iceland is pretty cool.
-BUT, my neighbors return back home to Ireland for a month every summer and they LOVE Aer Lingus, not just because that it the main carrier, but the service is great, friendly staff, great planes, nice entertainment (That radios are pretty cool). So I suggest Aer Lingus over Icelandair but it is up to you and if it comes down to price, just take the cheapest because each have perks so it depends.

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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6076 times:

I flew Icelandair again last year for a two week holiday to Iceland and then onward to the Faroe Islands. My first flight with Icelandair was in 1984 on a DC-8, ORD-KEF-LUX.

I thought that the service and flight were good, I ended up with a middle seat from BOS-KEF which was my own doing as I showed up about 60 mins before the flight, based on leaving the airport to see a friend. She got lost in the big dig construction returning to Logan. As I slept on the flight over, it was no big deal for me. On the return flight from KEF-BOS I ended up with an aisle seat with the middle empty which was great. I would recommend trying to sit closer to the front of the plane as it seemed a little bit better. I ended up getting a really good fare with about either 2 or 3 weeks advance with their "Lucky Fares", which I recommend to register with if you are thinking of flying them anytime soon as they have great deals.

If you fly on Icelandair you will arrive in KEF early in the morning and depending on your onward destination most like go through Passport Control at that time in their new terminal. You can also arrange a stopover in Iceland for a few days at no additional fee.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 8):
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 4):
After an incident a number of years ago, (on Lufthansa), I went through about 4 years of being terrified flying, epecially during take off and initial climb (probably as my incident took place just after take off)...

Not to be personal... but mind sharing the incident?? If it's a problem then just disregard.

No problem Tornoado82... I once posted on pprune to find out if anyone knew anything about the incident and since nobody did, I was accused of making up the story.
The incident was aboard a Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Dublin on February 22nd 2000. About a minute after take off there was a large "bang/explosion" sound. I was towards the end of the aircraft, and people behind me started screaming, pointing out the window. Fire was coming out of the engine, I saw the flame just before it was extiunguished. Flight becoming 'rather' unstable for a few minutes. Anyway some 20 minutes later we made a safe emergency landing at Frankfurt.
One of the worst things here was hpw we were treated. About five minutes after the bang, the pilot came on the PA (understandably he didn't before as he was obviously quite busy). It wasn't clear what he was saying in English (unfortunately I don't speak German, but he did tell us there has been a problem with one of the engines and that that engine was now on idle and that we must return for an emergency landing". People were quite distressed. Only once did the cabin crew come through the cabin to check on us, and then told us to "prepare for an emergency landing" without giving us any instructions on what to do... After the excellent landing performed by the LH pilots, we were followed by firebrigades and parked at a remote stand. We were kept on board for about an hour while they got another plane ready for us (we weren't even offered a glass of water in all this time on the ground!). Some passengers were more affected than other, such as myself, and many of us were saying we wanted to disembark and not continue immediately on the next flight. We were told we had no choice... they even brought the police onboard in case we insisted too much. Eventually a German passenger, who was a doctor, stood up and said he wanted to see the captain immediately. He informed him that he could not "force shocked passengers to take another flight immediately and that if we were not taken to the terminal for attention, he would launch an official complaint". It worked. About 40 of us "less brave pax" were bussed to a gate, left for about five minutes on our own in the lighlty falling snow. Eventually a LH ground staff member appeared, brought us up to the gate, and basically asked us "what our problem was??" Told us we would have to stay in the airport until tomorrow as there were no further seats available for DUB. At this stage people started to break-down, cry etc. And then, about 2 hours after the landing, they (LH) suddenly realised how badly they were dealing with the matter. New flights with other airlines were organised (I flew that evening courtesy of BA via Southampton), pschologists visited us, a VIP room was openned just for us, free meals, drink, medication etc...
There are other good/bad points, but I won't go on more. I just feel that if LH had been a bit kinder/more human in their appraoch, things would have been better. I was terrified for about 4 years after that. In the mid 90's my parents had a hydraulic failure (indication only) on an Iberia 727 from DUB to BCN and made an emergency landing at BCN which got a lot of press during the event (thankfully I wasn't listening to the radio). In the end no problems. Iberia were wonderful. my parents said the crew spend the whole time while they were dumping fuel checking the passengers, clearly explaining the emergency procdure, the pilot even apologised that there was nothing else he could do and had to land and that "Please God" all would go well... which it did (it was just an incorrect failure indication in the cockpit). The pilot came out to see the passengers after landing, everyone clapped, as the passengers deplaned there were numerous IB ground staff by the bus applauding the passengers. Passengers were then brough to a VIP lounge with flowing champagne and tanquilizers! Iberia told passengers that those who were connecting could choose the following options which Iberia would organise and pay for:
a. continue on their connnecting flight
b. spend the night in BCN at a hotel and take a flight tomorrow
c. IB would orgainse other emans of public transport (bus, train, taxi) for those who didn't feel comfortable flying.
I feel this approach made the whole situation better, my parents could only praise Iberia after this incident. In my situation, myself amongst others could only deplore Lufthansa, I even swore to never fly them again. I did come to my sense last year, and flew happily with LH... I believe a turning-point in curing my fear.
Sorry for being so long.
By the way if anyone from LH can inform me on what actually ahppened to my flight, why I could never find anything on the German Aviation Authority's accident bureau web site any mention of my incident with LH.



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineN200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 784 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5994 times:

The Icelandair flight sounds interesting and fun...but I like getting off the beaten path. From MSY you could get a nonstop on WN up to BWI in time to catch the Icelandair flight.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5902 times:

Thanks for sharing... I think an engine fire in flight would shake me up a good bit too. Scary stuff. And it seems as if they were just trying to keep people captive on the plane to keep them from running to the media or something, who knows. Iberia's sounds like a much better way to handle a situation like that.

Now before some hard-  butthead  comes on saying how it's standard operating procedure and blah blah blah... I'd be just as scared if my car's engine caught on fire driving down a road too... fire itself is a pretty scary subject, and even more so when you're stuck in some kind of tube/box with it right next to you.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Quoting Nworlnsbearcub (Thread starter):
I wanted to get everyone's opinions on each carriers' transatlantic service

Well, you know now if you didn't before, that B6 has no transatlantic service. From what I hear, EI is pretty middle of the pack while FI has European LCC "service" (they charge for everything, including drinks) in Y class. You would probably be better off on a carrier other than FI

Quoting Nworlnsbearcub (Thread starter):
....I am also very curious about Jetblue to JFK from MSY .

B6 is well known for their nice interiors, great pitch and free live DirecTV service.

Quoting Tommy777 (Reply 3):
Icelandair flies the 757, which is like a bloated 737 with just one isle.

Well, that is not such a nice thing to say about one of the best airplanes ever made



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User currently offlineXkorpyoh From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5873 times:

Do it on Icelandair..it is more fun. Stop over in KEF and go to the Blue LAgoon. it is really amazing. But be careful. I went to the Blue Lagoon when it was 10 degrees F and the water was like 100F. I had to submerge all the time to get the ice that was forming on my hair. I then when to the airport to catch my flight and it seems that water got caught in my ear and i was congested, i guess from the sudden temperature changes. My ear drums blew up on flight when landing. It was the most painful experience ever (and i had a connection).

anyways, KEF is a nice stopover. Very cool people and very friendly. go an see the waterfalls and Geysers. It is a nice stopover for 1 or 2 days. Icelandair is a great airline.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5847 times:

Thanks Tornado82... just as you say, a car engine fire is scary as well!


Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineJustinpower From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5852 times:

Ref reply 14, FI now charges only for alcoholic beverages (see discussions elsewhere), having scored bad publicity with a "pay for everything" policy last year. Food comes free, so just like a standard European airline, not an LCC.

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