UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7148 times:
Iberia out of OneWorld, even though I'll be flamed to hell. I totally agree with who has seen that, but I'm waiting for our friends from SPain to counter.
However, their service is slowly improving, and they have a great network, reasons for ONeWorld to keep them.
Why kick SQ out of Star? Their a premium carrier, great part of their alliance in my opinion.
Ozvirginuk From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 396 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7024 times:
I'm a little confused as to why anyone would want SQ out of Star alliance...
They are a very good quality carrier (and they own 49% of my employers!!). From what I've heard of both IB and Aer lingus, I would definitely agree with their departure from OneWorld (mind you I'm not exactly fond of my home flag carrier QF either)
I would also vote for RG's departure from Star, they have a truly awful reputation. Also, I'm surprised that no-one has voted UA out of Star (I wouldn't!) as they tend to get bashed as much as Virgin. Both undeservedly in my opinion..
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4139 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6927 times:
The only reason I can think of for kicking SQ out of Star is the fact that they don't really embrace their membership. They won't even paint the regular Star livery, they have that crappy scheme instead...
Jfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6920 times:
What would be the reason for kicking AF out of Skyteam? I've heard that they're service is quite exceptional (not as good as the asian carriers, but better than the domestic carriers) and they have a good network to Europe, N. Africa, and the middle east.
JetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6814 times:
Well I think getting SQ out of Star is not a good idea, from what I have heard they are very good.
For one world, maybe IB can go because I think other all contribute. AA and EI codeshare all flights to Ireland but the only thing is EI will ten to re-book people on DL and not AA. They should keep it in the same alliance.
And for Skyteam, AF is pretty good and contributes. I think they should kick out DL because I don't think they are the best suited for that, they are excellent on their own. The only reason to keep NW is because if you kick them out then KLM lost it's USA connection because I think NW owns KLM. I know at mostly all airports it says NW/KLM (even at LGA)
Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 19): Well I think getting SQ out of Star is not a good idea, from what I have heard they are very good.
I completely agree with both of you.
Why the heck do you want SQ out of star, and AF out of Skyteam?
If I had the option.. I would keep everything the way it is, only merge the Star Alliance and Skyteam Alliances... therefor creating the "World Access" alliance. (ok.. maybe we could use a better name.. but you get the drift )
Airbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6807 times:
Bye Bye DL from SkyTeam. You've got CO and NW to hold the slack.
Getting rid of NW, right.... just the body and soul of SkyTeam with NW/KLM plus AF. Sounds like a great idea doesn't it.
SQ, another one, you really want to get rid of the worlds most respected airline! Sure they don't like to embrace membership, but whoop-de-doo, I doubt the Star livery is going to make or break an alliance.
You cannot get rid of IB because of their fleet network
Aer Lingus could go because they are trying to become a LCLF carrier anyway.
Varig is needed in Star because of it's South American prescence.
Maybe Star could lose LOT or Austrian, you have BMI and LH to carry it on, well at least LOT.
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11519 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6780 times:
Interesting that all alliances does not state how an Airline could be kicked out. I don't know but i think there is no reports on quality and even public ranks for service, overall plane quality and other aspects.
SkyTeam could kick DL and include some South America partner.
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
Zone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1036 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6774 times:
Quoting Airbus3801 (Reply 21): just the body and soul of SkyTeam with NW/KLM plus AF. Sounds like a great idea doesn't it.
I would think the body and soul of SkyTeam would include DL since them and AF started the alliance!
As far as the SkyTeam alliance goes, I would say kick CO out because my dad and I have had nothing but trouble when it comes to getting flights credited to our SkyMiles accounts and for me they completely screwed up a DL/CO itinerary was flying. The CO ticketing agent said that the flight wasn't paid for yet. I was like how can it not be paid for since I already flew half of the itinerary. They then worked on it for an hour and finally gave me my ticket albeit with SSSS written on it. Basically CO's computer systems are not very integrated with the other SkyTeam partners, so I say kick them out. I never had any trouble with NW.