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What Airlines Would You Kick Out Of An Alliance?  
User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3766 posts, RR: 19
Posted (9 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5684 times:

What Airlines would you like to see kicked out from the Alliances?

Mine:
Star Alliance:

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Rob!  Smile

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User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

Why kick IB out of oneworld? I know many people on here may think that their service needs improvement but they have a good network especially in latin america. And whats wrong with Air France?


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User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5675 times:

I totally agree with kicking Iberia out of OneWorld.

AerLingus330



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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5672 times:

How about not only saying which one - but why!

For example, I'd kick Varig out of Star, because TAM simply offers a far superior product, domestic and international...

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5659 times:

Iberia out of OneWorld, even though I'll be flamed to hell. I totally agree with who has seen that, but I'm waiting for our friends from SPain to counter.
However, their service is slowly improving, and they have a great network, reasons for ONeWorld to keep them.
Why kick SQ out of Star? Their a premium carrier, great part of their alliance in my opinion.



What now?
User currently offlineNYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

Iberia out of OneWorld? Excuse me? How about...


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They're useless.

And what's wrong with SQ in Star?

[Edited 2005-07-10 12:39:13]

User currently offlineNewkai From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

I don't see what's wrong with SQ in Star... Aren't they one of the world's continuously highest rated carriers?

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6318 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5564 times:

Aer Lingus are doing fine, why should they stay in oneworld, can someone explain what the average passenger gets out of Aer Lingus being in the oneworld.

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5557 times:

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):

Of course everybody may have his own opinion but it would be nice to get an explanation for this, otherwise it is quite useless to post such things.

[Edited 2005-07-10 21:04:08]

User currently offlineOzvirginuk From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 396 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5535 times:

I'm a little confused as to why anyone would want SQ out of Star alliance...

They are a very good quality carrier (and they own 49% of my employers!!). From what I've heard of both IB and Aer lingus, I would definitely agree with their departure from OneWorld (mind you I'm not exactly fond of my home flag carrier QF either)

I would also vote for RG's departure from Star, they have a truly awful reputation. Also, I'm surprised that no-one has voted UA out of Star (I wouldn't!) as they tend to get bashed as much as Virgin. Both undeservedly in my opinion..

Ozvirginuk


User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5528 times:

I would kick NW out of Skyteam.

Filthy, disgusting planes.  vomit 


User currently offlineGhostRider From Pakistan, joined May 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5451 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 10):
I would kick NW out of Skyteam.


Totally agree with you there! vomit 

They also have the frumpiest FA's.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5438 times:

The only reason I can think of for kicking SQ out of Star is the fact that they don't really embrace their membership. They won't even paint the regular Star livery, they have that crappy scheme instead...

User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

Rob.

I'd kick BA outta OneWorld before IB.  Smile

Regards.


User currently offlineJfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

What would be the reason for kicking AF out of Skyteam? I've heard that they're service is quite exceptional (not as good as the asian carriers, but better than the domestic carriers) and they have a good network to Europe, N. Africa, and the middle east.

Any opinions...


User currently offlineUAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

I'd get DL out of Skyteam.

User currently offlineIB787 From Spain, joined Jun 2005, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5369 times:

Why kicking out IB from one world? Sure it needs some improvements to be done but its network and fleet are really ok, I would kick out Aer Lingus before IB.

User currently offlineBaexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5347 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 13):

You are joking right?


User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2711 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5345 times:

DL and KAL out of SkyTeam:

DL because their aircraft are a disgrace!

KAL because they have an unfortunate habbit of crashing (mainly due to pilot error last time I checked)
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/a...etail.cgi?airline=Korean+Air+Lines



When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5325 times:

Well I think getting SQ out of Star is not a good idea, from what I have heard they are very good.

For one world, maybe IB can go because I think other all contribute. AA and EI codeshare all flights to Ireland but the only thing is EI will ten to re-book people on DL and not AA. They should keep it in the same alliance.

And for Skyteam, AF is pretty good and contributes. I think they should kick out DL because I don't think they are the best suited for that, they are excellent on their own. The only reason to keep NW is because if you kick them out then KLM lost it's USA connection because I think NW owns KLM. I know at mostly all airports it says NW/KLM (even at LGA)

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User currently offlineUAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 18):
DL because their aircraft are a disgrace!



Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 19):
Well I think getting SQ out of Star is not a good idea, from what I have heard they are very good.

I completely agree with both of you.


---->>

Thread starter,
Why the heck do you want SQ out of star, and AF out of Skyteam?

---->>

If I had the option.. I would keep everything the way it is, only merge the Star Alliance and Skyteam Alliances... therefor creating the "World Access" alliance.  Smile  Smile (ok.. maybe we could use a better name.. but you get the drift  Wink )


User currently offlineAirbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5318 times:

Bye Bye DL from SkyTeam. You've got CO and NW to hold the slack.

Getting rid of NW, right.... just the body and soul of SkyTeam with NW/KLM plus AF. Sounds like a great idea doesn't it.

SQ, another one, you really want to get rid of the worlds most respected airline! Sure they don't like to embrace membership, but whoop-de-doo, I doubt the Star livery is going to make or break an alliance.

You cannot get rid of IB because of their fleet network

Aer Lingus could go because they are trying to become a LCLF carrier anyway.

Varig is needed in Star because of it's South American prescence.

Maybe Star could lose LOT or Austrian, you have BMI and LH to carry it on, well at least LOT.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11406 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5291 times:
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Interesting that all alliances does not state how an Airline could be kicked out. I don't know but i think there is no reports on quality and even public ranks for service, overall plane quality and other aspects.

SkyTeam could kick DL and include some South America partner.

Rgds,
Felipe



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User currently offlineZone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5285 times:

Quoting Airbus3801 (Reply 21):
just the body and soul of SkyTeam with NW/KLM plus AF. Sounds like a great idea doesn't it.

I would think the body and soul of SkyTeam would include DL since them and AF started the alliance!

As far as the SkyTeam alliance goes, I would say kick CO out because my dad and I have had nothing but trouble when it comes to getting flights credited to our SkyMiles accounts and for me they completely screwed up a DL/CO itinerary was flying. The CO ticketing agent said that the flight wasn't paid for yet. I was like how can it not be paid for since I already flew half of the itinerary. They then worked on it for an hour and finally gave me my ticket albeit with SSSS written on it. Basically CO's computer systems are not very integrated with the other SkyTeam partners, so I say kick them out. I never had any trouble with NW.



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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5273 times:

No, I'm not joking about BA and OneWorld, why all the hate for DL and SkyTeam?

25 Post contains images B742 : Personal preference, on SQ I've experienced poor service, poor customer help and many more problems! Also on AF, I just dislike them to any other Sky
26 Post contains images Newkai : Ever try the lottery!?
27 Post contains links and images RCS763AV : Jajaj...the body of skyteam is DL/AF-KL, not the others.... Out of OW: View Large View MediumPhoto © Jason Whitebird Mediocre useless airline, p
28 GQfluffy : Uh, I think DL would be FUBAR if they don't have Skyteam... fluffy
29 Post contains images BHXDTW : SQ Out of Star !! hahahahahahahaha that my friend is hilarious...UA before SQ any day !! and its not always about service... Id much rather fly with a
30 Post contains images 767300er : us airways 12345,12346
31 Post contains images Wrighbrothers : I would kick BMI out of star alliance , I belive this because due to their recent but dramatic changes lead me to belive this , Their changes don't fi
32 EurofleetLHR : I thought that these Alliances were originally planned to group together airlines with "similar" service standards, and offer "seamless" service - wha
33 AirEuropeUK733 : Yep - BMI out of Star cos they don't have a clude what strategy they are trying to follow. AE733
34 Cornish : Much as their decisions are annoying me I'd like to keep them in as I can claim points for my Miles and More FF card - but otherwise I'd be inclined
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