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Your Fantasy Airline ...w/ A Twist, Check It Out  
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

OK, these type of posts are done all the time, so I decided to try it with a bit of a twist. Pick or make your airline, but, also chose your timeline. For instance, say Pan Am in the 1950's and then chose your aircraft. Flying boats, Connies, 707's, etc.

Mine isn't to original in regards to this post but it's my choice. I'd chose TWA in the early 90's just as the 777 was about to enter service along with the following ...

747-400's
777-200's
767-200/300's
757-200's
MD-90's
717's

The route map would basically be all cities that are labeled on the weather map of the USA Today newspaper, and International expansion.

Have fun!!

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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11656 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Well, here's my shot at it; based on IB in Spain, set in the Late 80's and early 90's;

A300-200's to be slowly replaced by 600's for high capacity routes.
B727-200's to be phased out by A320's only.
B747-200's to be phased out by 400's
B757-200's
DC-9's to be replaced gradually by B717-200's with a push at Boeing to make the -300.
DC-10's to be phased out by the MD11 including some MD11Fs.

Dan Smile



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineJetter2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

AA in the early 90's

MD80
B722
B757
A306
B767
DC10
MD11


Ah the old glorious days I remember seeing all the little ATR's and saabs scurring around my big big jet liner =]


User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Delta Fantasy within next 5 years:

ERJ-170 - Quantity 30
ERJ-195 - Quantity 25
717-200 - Quantity 45
737-600 - Quantity 40
737-800 - Quantity 25
757-200 - Quantity 35
767-300 - Quantity 40
767-400 - Quantity 25
777-200ER - Quantity 12
777-200LR - Quantity 3

Delta Connection Birds:

(Comair)

CRJ-200ER - Quantity 110
CRJ-700 - Quantity 35

(Skywest)

CRJ-200ER - Quantity 50
CRJ-700 - Quantity 25
Saab 340 - Quantity 35

(ASA)

ATR-72-500 - Quantity 12
Dash-8-Q400 - Quantity 12

(Chautauqua)

ERJ-135 - Quantity 12
ERJ-145 - Quantity 12



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

DAN AIR

1980's

727's

757's

747-200's for internationl routes


User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Northwest Fantasy within next 5 years:

717-200 - Quantity 200 (gee I wonder what they replaced? lol)
A319 - Quantity 45
A320 - Quantity 30
A330-200 - Quantity 10
A330-300 - Quantity 15
747-400 - Quantity 5
757-200 - Quantity 25
757-300 - Quantity 10

Northwest Connection Partners:

(Pinnacle)

CRJ-200ER - Quantity 100
CRJ-700 - Quantity 30

(Mesaba)

ERJ-170 - Quantity 40
Saab 340 - Quantity 45
Saab 2000 - Quantity 10



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Swissair 1997

1. Get rid of the investments, forget SAirGroup thing. Swissair stands on her own.

2. ERJ145s
Airbus A320s
Airbus A330-300s
Airbus A340-300s



The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

I'll try Canadi>n Airlines International


Mainline:
737-200Adv -> slowly replaced with 737-600 and 737-700
737-200C/Adv -> same as -200Adv
A320-200 -> stay for a while, eventually replaced by 738/739 (or Boeing's 737 replacement if available then)
767-300ER -> stay till around 2010ish then replaced by 787
747-400 -> stay till they start getting older then replace with 777-300ER
new airplanes -> some 772ERs to fill the gap between 767 and 747 and some 772LRs to open new long-haul routes and compete with Air Canada's new A340s
Regional:
DHC8-100 -> stay
DHC8-300 -> stay
F28-1000 -> relaced with EMB170s
North:
737-200Adv -> staying till a suitable replacement is found


CanadianNorth



What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

SAA in 5 years:

I'll still include the aircraft they'll be using by then and some new ones:

South African Express:
CRJ-200ER - Current aircraft
Dash 8 - Current Aircraft
ERJ-175 - New aircraft. For use to open up more regional African destinations.

South African Airways:
737-800 - Current aircraft
A319 - Current aircraft
A321 - New aircraft. To expand the domestic network and phase out the 738 (SAA say the 738's will be gone by 2010-2011)
A320 - New aircraft. To expand the regional market and , along with the A321 , phase out the 738.
A340-600 - Current Aircraft
A340-200 - Current Aircraft
A340-300 - Current Aircraft
747-400 - Current Aircraft
A340-500 - New Aircraft. This could be utilized on the JFK and IAD routes. The -500 could also be used to launch a new Tokyo route after SAA's join to Star and , effectively , All Nippon.
A330-300 - New aircraft. To be used on the more effective African and Asian routes such as HKG , LAD and BOM .

South African Cargo:
Consists of only 2 737-200's which I feel is not enough.
SAA Cargo needs a few 747-400ERF's to compete with Cargolux , Lufthansa cargo etc on the Africa to European cargo market.

Fantasy Routes:

NRT - With an A340-500 in the fleet , this would be a good option
MIA - Got to be re-opened.
BKK - SAA did well there , don't understand why they left.
DXB - Just take a lok at EK's loads to JNB
ATH - Who wants to fly OA?  Wink
CAI - Only two flights a week on Egypt Air. Needs more frequencies.
BAH - No comment  Silly

Well , thats my take on SAA  Smile

-SA006



Proudly South African
User currently offlineACdreamliner From UK - Scotland, joined May 2005, 519 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

good topic,

something like Air Canada in the early to mid 90's but with the addition of the 757...

more idealy:

737 -> YVR, YUL & YYZ to non hubs like Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Halifax, Ottawa, Halifax & US Cities.

757 -> HUB to HUB service and Trans Atlantic to smaller cities like EDI from YYZ & YUL, also YVR-HNL

L1011 -> Hubs to big American cities, namely LAX and San Fran.

A330 -> Hubs to medium sized european and pacific rim cities

B747 -> YVR to Asia, YYZ to the european big 4 (LHR, AMS, FRA & CDG)

Dash 8's - Jazz style

EMB 170/190 - Thinner long range routes...



Where are you going?
User currently offlineMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 873 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

A Cubana with

777-300 for Europe and Asia
767 for Lat.Am and the US
737 for Central America, Miami and Caribbean
Canadair for Intra-Kuba



"Like all great travelers, I have seen more than I remember, and remember more than I have seen."
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Eastern In the late 80's

domestic, medium density:
727
DC-9

domestic, high density:
757
762

International, medium/high density:
DC-10
L1011

Charters/Cariibean routes:
A300
762



121
User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5126 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

Hmmm.

Okay, it's 1985 and I'll incorporate about $5 billion and name it Griffin Aviation Holdings.

I'll aquire Ozark Airlines Holdings and keep the Ozark name as the operating name of the airline.

Fleet will consist of DC-9-10/20/40 and the MD-82. When the MD-87 becomes available I'll order that as a DC-9 replacement/growth vehicle as well as additional MD-82/3's. F-100's and F-70's will be added to cover the 70-150 seat range I feel is the proper size for the airline.

Growth will be focused on STL until the first Gulf War. Taking advantage of the situation, I'll aquire Midway Airlines (1) and open a second hub at MDW. Though the two cities are close, MDW will be focused primarliy on frequent flights to business centers both east and west and a few Florida markets. The primary connecting hub will remain at STL, MDW will have connections available of course, but will be focused on O&D traffic.

Additional growth will be focused on an MCI mini-hub, following the shutdown of Braniff (2). Perhaps an 8 gate operation with STL/MDW/MKE/IND/DCA/PHL/LGA/BOS eastbound and SFO/LAX/SAN/LAS/PHX/DEN/ICT/SEA westbound. Maybe a few Florida markets timed outside the connecting banks.

Having solidified my Midwest passenger base, I would maintain a slow-growth strategy through the 90's. Purchase 717's. Network by 2000 would cover the Continental US and some additional service to Canada, Mexico and the Carribean.

Would hedge fuel prices at $25 a barrel through the year 2025!



Ozark Flies Your Way
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Avianca in 5 years:

4 F-50s
8 F-100s
12 737-700
6 737-800
8 757-200
5 767-200ER
3 767-300ER

(767s to be replaced soon be 787-800s)

Domestic Routes:

BOG-AUC** 2x daily (F-50)
BOG-BGA 6x daily (2 F-50, 2 F100, 2 73G)
BOG-CUC 6x daily (4 F-50, 1 F100, 1 73G)
BOG-CTG*** 8x daily (6 73G, 2 738)
BOG-BAQ*** 7x daily (73G)
BOG-RCH*** 1x daily (F100)
BOG-VUP*** 2x daily (F100)
BOG-SMR 3x daily (73G)
BOG-MTR*** 3x daily (2 F100, 1 73G)
BOG-EJA 2x daily (F-50)
BOG-MZL*** 7x daily (4 F-50, 3 F100)
BOG-PEI*** 6x daily (4 F100, 2 73G)
BOG-AXM ***5x daily (3 F100, 2 F-50)
BOG-PSO 2x daily (F-50)
BOG-TCO* 1x daily (F-50)
BOG-UIB** 1x daily (F-50)
BOG-ADZ*** 2x daily (73G)
BOG-LET** 3x weekly (738)
BOG-MDE*** 15x daily (2 757, 10 73G, 3 F100)
BOG-CLO*** 15x daily (2 757, 9 73G, 4 F100)
BOG-PPN** 1x daily (F-50)
MDE-CTG*** 3x daily (F100)
MDE-BAQ*** 3x daily (F100)
MDE-SMR 1x daiy (F100)
MDE-BGA** 2x daily (F100)
MDE-CLO*** 6x daily (2 73G, 2 F100, 2 F-50)
MDE-PEI* 2x daily (F-50)
CLO-CTG* 1x daily (73G)
CLO-ADZ*** 1x daily (73G)
CLO-PSO 2x daily (F-50)
CLO-TCO 2x daily (F-50)
BOG-PVA 1x daily (F100)

International Routes:

BOG-MIA 2x daily (763, 757)
BOG-FLL 1x daily (757)
BOG-GRU*** 4x weekly (763)
BOG-GIG*** 3x weekly (767)
BOG-SCL*** 4x weekly (757)
BOG-EZE*** 4x weekly (757)
BOG-GYE 1x daily (738)
BOG-UIO 3x daily (757)
BOG-MAO* 2x weekly (73G)
BOG-LIM 1x daily (763)
BOG-PTY 2x daily (738)
BOG-CCS 4x daily (763, 3 738s)
BOG-MAR* 1x daily (73G)
BOG-PMV* 2x weekly (73G)
BOG-AUA*** 1x daily (73G)
BOG-CUR*** 5x weekly (73G)
BOG-BON* 2x weekly (73G)
BOG-PUJ 2x weekly (738)
BOG-SJU** 2x weekly (738)
BOG-LAX** 3x weekly (757)
BOG-YYZ* 3x weekly (757)
BOG-MEX*** 1x daily (757)
BOG-JFK 1x daily (763)
BOG-SJO** 1x daily (73G)
MDE-MIA 1x daily (757)
CLO-MIA 1x daily (757)
PEI-CTG-MIA* 4x weekly (738)
BAQ-MIA 1x daily (73G)
CLO-MDE-JFK*** 1x daily (757)
CLO-MAD 2x weekly (767)
BOG-MAD 1x daily (767)
BOG-LHR** 3x weekly (767)
BOG-FRA** 3x weekly (767)
BOG-MBJ** 2x weekly (F100)

* new service
** service dropped in the past
*** increased freq.

Plus, AV will have subsidiaries in Brazil, Peru, Ecuador and Venezuela, and will be a full member of Skyteam.

[Edited 2005-07-22 19:39:35]


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
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