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What Airlines Will Not Exist In 5 Years?  
User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6371 times:

Hi

I will just give yout this topic for you to mull over and a couple of suggestions to get you started . . .

Happy posting!

UA?
AA?
DL?
NW?
BA?
U2?
US?

Regards and Happy Posting

DSA

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User currently offlineSK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6337 times:

KL?  Sad ; let's see what the French will do with it...

User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6334 times:

Personally, I would like to see much of the US's legacy airlines disappear.

I think a system of smaller airlines catering for certain areas of the country, and then having alliances to link between each airlines hub.

The whole US system of covering such a large expanse of land and markets is too much.


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6327 times:

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 2):
I think a system of smaller airlines catering for certain areas of the country, and then having alliances to link between each airlines hub.

That's essentially what the US had before deregulation - airlines could only fly certain routes, and to get from one destination to another, you may have had to switch airlines once or twice, especially if it was a smaller city a good distance away.


User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6613 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6278 times:

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 2):
Personally, I would like to see much of the US's legacy airlines disappear.

Why would someone in the UK give a f*ck??????



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6224 times:

Personally, I think the likes of BA/AA/UA will still be around.

CO/NW/US....i would be surprised.

LX/BD will be gone.



Remember: The Bird Hit You, You Didn't Hit The Bird.....
User currently offlinePlanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1010 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6198 times:
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Let's check back and see who was here 5 years ago (or so) but is not anymore....

TWA
Canadian
Swissair
Sabena
Ansett
Air Afrique
Nigeria Airways
Ghana Airways
Aeroperu


Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc


User currently onlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4142 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6182 times:

Independence Air.
Maybe United.

If the government decides to stop bailing airlines out, probably 5 or 6 carriers.


User currently offlineUAcosCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6152 times:

I would like to see DAL and NWA disappear. Would like to see CO get sucked up by UAL. See Skywest become a better carrier, holding their crew accountable for their lack of urgencies.

Just my opinions.

UACOSCS


User currently offlineThelowfarehero From Cayman Islands, joined Aug 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6152 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 4):
Why would someone in the UK give a f*ck??????

because this is an international civil aviation forum.

I would have to say NW, DL, and UA are probably the obvious choices, CO isn't going anywhere soon. But bye bye FLIi



I HAATE AA!
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6121 times:

That's like saying: 'What will be the weather in 5 years?' Or: 'Will I have a cold in 5 years?'


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

This is speculation not definite. I will throw in a few more carriers into the cauldron.

FR
BY
LH
FL
AF
KL

Regards and Happy posting!

DSA


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6057 times:

Quoting Thelowfarehero (Reply 9):
I would have to say NW, DL, and UA are probably the obvious choices, CO isn't going anywhere soon. But bye bye FLIi

Yes because those obvious choices such as US Airways just went away...didn't they?

United seems to be doing quite with year 3 of bankruptcy fast approaching. Delta will probably sell/spin off Comair next to raise cash and then CH11 the joint and follow UAL's lead. Northwest...who knows. It helps owning most of your planes. FlyI is definitely a weak player right now.

I think we just have to wait and see what oil prices do. If they continue to go up, a lot can change all around. Remember's Southwest's hedges eventually come to an end, so seeing how they restructure to adjust to the impending spike in their fuel costs will be very interesting.


User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6056 times:

Quoting Dsa (Reply 11):
This is speculation not definite. I will throw in a few more carriers into the cauldron.

FR
BY
LH
FL
AF
KL

AF, LH, KL : May I ask you why?



Flying is amazing!
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

Quoting Dsa (Reply 11):
FR
BY
LH
FL
AF
KL

You're a fool and clearly know very little, if anything, about aviation. You thrive on unfounded speculation - and pay no, or very little, attention to well-researched forecasts and facts. It's sad, really.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6027 times:

I think it's very typical to see UA listed on this thread as a likely looser.

I must object of course. We have slashed our costs by billions and the folks over at Deutche Bank, Citi, and Chase are all lined up to give us financing for our exit from Ch.11. These are some of the largest financiers in the world, so why would they write checks to a company that is going to loose?

Our CASM has been dramatically reduced (barring fuel which everyone is getting spanked with) and we still have all our core assets: the most enviable route network in the world, a great fleet mix, amazing brand recognition, and of course talented employees.

In my opinion, based on the aforementioned, United has a better chance of being around 5 yrs from now then the other legacies that haven't reduced thier CASM as much and haven't had the luxuries of Bankruptcy Court to re-adjust every aspect of thier business.

FA4UA



The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

This is a pretty ridiculous thread because everybody only can guess. It should be in the "polls & prefs".

User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5985 times:

These we will not even see the next year:

BA - Strikes
CX - SARS
JL - I don't like their c/s
QF - Australia is too hot
LA - Who goes to Chile for other than tacos?
SQ - Singapore is too small a country
EK - Terrorism will hurt them
QR - See above
GF - See above

This forum sould be for people over 18  Yeah sure

Stefano


User currently offlineSTARalliance24 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 378 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5973 times:

AC will brobably be there but i doubt about TS!!! But like many people said its impossible to know what will happen in the futur.....unless......  stirthepot 

User currently offlineJjmngr From Brazil, joined May 2004, 1018 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5913 times:

Did not see anybody mentioning RG which is struggling day-by-day.

User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5829 times:

As I said this is speculation, I just want to know what you think

User currently offlineBrasuca From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5698 times:

Quoting Jjmngr (Reply 19):
Did not see anybody mentioning RG which is struggling day-by-day.

That's because their struggle is making positive results, so we don't expect them to go down, despite they are still in a not healthy situation at all.

Long life to VARIG!!!



Varig, Varig, Varig
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5665 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 4):
Why would someone in the UK give a f*ck??????

Your negative attitude has no place here.  talktothehand 

Quoting Thelowfarehero (Reply 9):
because this is an international civil aviation forum.

 thumbsup 



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineLhrmaccoll From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

Definetely British Midland, unless they sort themselves out back to the 90s style of service.
Alex


User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Many thought US would have gone away and died...there have been several "death dates" given...but look now...US will probably end up being around for a very LONG time  Big grin


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
25 Post contains links Bongo : Predictions:Airlines To Disappear In The Next 2 Yr (by Bongo Jun 23 2005 in Aviation Polls & Prefs)
26 Planesailing : I guess, though they still covered large percentages of the country, no? I only say this would be a better idea, because the one rule of business is
27 Dsa : I would just like to thank all those which are making a valuable contribution to this forum, and to those who are'nt please bugger off! Happy Posting
28 Doona : SAS Sweden should be put out of it's misery. The hub at ARN will be closed down, and all routes will be flown by Skyways and Flyme. That would also gi
29 CMHSRQ : America West will not be here in 5 years. I promise
30 Jeffry747 : You can pretty much kiss that name goodbye already, seeing as how they became one with US Airways. And Pan Am, in their current supposed condition, i
31 GhostRider : Why on earth would you be surprised if CO was around in 5 years? They are one of the most financially sound airlines in North America. The airlines t
32 NWA757boy : I think there will be some mix-ups in the future...for instance maybe NW and DL merging or something to the extent or sell off some of their routes to
33 BA380 : i would be staggered if bmi was still around then. I would have thought someone will buy them before then - LH? SAS? VS? BA?
34 Post contains images SQno1 : This clearly shows that you are a complete idiot. QF just announced decent profits and SQ are also very profitable as well. Just because Singapore is
35 ASMD80 : This is my absolute best guess: Obscure airlines like Helios, Alexandair, Fly, Onur, and TANS will get their Air Operator's Certificate revoked, forci
36 BA380 : Team - please note that humourous comments of any kind must stop immediately. They waste SQno1's valuable time.
37 777klm : Virgin Express (merger with SN) ATA(!) Varig I don't think one of the big US-carriers won't exist in 5 years.. and I don't even hope!
38 Post contains images A319114 : LOL Im sure he was joking Back on topic: I don't think DL will be around for long
39 Post contains images Flydubai : All airlines in the Middle East due to EK domination. flyDUBAI
40 Post contains images SA006 : I can't beleive you didn't see that to be as a joke...Let loose man! Its the Internet I found it pretty funny I just love it how people say airlines
41 Post contains images CXA330300 : Let's go continent by continent: AMERICAS DL NW US TZ-we're counting down. BWIA RG EUROPE BD-perhaps KL-perhaps LX AZ OA (and good riddance) Helios FR
42 Post contains images USADreamliner : Ok,here I go : KL fully integrated AF LX fully integrated LH DL goodbye NW maybe... AZ not in 5 years but... OA for how long can we wait And I can't w
43 Post contains images TimePilot : Hmm... all the American ones?
44 USADreamliner : My God!! You have no idea about anything.A simple moron. USADreamliner
45 JBLUA320 : Apparently you don't either! It was clearly a JOKE! JBLU
46 AirEuropeUK733 : I think BMI WILL still be around (but under LH ownership!) I can see UA going, as well as the likes of OA (alomost gone anyway!), US and Alitalia. On
47 Post contains links Bongo : http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_polls/read.main/52411
48 Post contains images MD11junkie : Ehm - the topic is archived Airlines that will not exist in 5 years? Hmmm... I would have to say that with the current market situation, more than on
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