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Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?  
User currently offlineCATHAY747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 170 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6162 times:

I am curious as to everyone's opinion: while I would love to FLY on an A380 if it were a demo type flight (i.e. if it came here on tour), I have no desire to TRAVEL on one once they go into revenue service as I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim. ESPECIALLY the 2-class versions that EK will operate (even more seats). Your personal views?

NOTE: this is NOT an Airbus vs. Boeing debate, nor do I want it to turn into that, this is solely about the aircraft and its merits or drawbacks.


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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6155 times:

Quoting CATHAY747 (Thread starter):
I have no desire to TRAVEL on one once they go into revenue service as I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim

Hey, as long as my employer is paying the tab, I'll go.  bouncy 

Seriously, I can't wait to fly this bird.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6130 times:

I've signed up on SQ's website, otherwise I'll spend my hard-earned  dollarsign  on flying on the 777  biggrin 


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User currently offlineBR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6110 times:

Quoting CATHAY747 (Thread starter):
I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim. ESPECIALLY the 2-class versions that EK will operate (even more seats). Your personal views?

IMO it will be not much different as a 747 flight, only more quitet and the opportunity to play a 18 hole golf game  Smile



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5415 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6101 times:

Quoting CATHAY747 (Thread starter):
as I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim. ESPECIALLY the 2-class versions that EK will operate (even more seats). Your personal views?

Well, does a fully loaded B747 take 4 or 5 times longer to board than an MD80/B737 ? I think you'll agree it doesn't and in fact that is still boarding via one jetway. If the A380 is boarding via 2 jetways, you cannot blindly assume it's going to be a nightmare to board. I guess the designers of the A380 wouldn't agree with you.

Is it really going to have that many more pax than a 747 or 777 ? So why much different from a bag claim standpoint? Don't forget that no more people are flying from A-B ... just more people in one plane. Ever been at JFK bag claim when 10 B767's arrive from Europe?

Hey, just playing devil's advocate.

Jimbo

[Edited 2005-10-24 00:15:45]


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User currently offlineCATHAY747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6093 times:

Quoting BR076 (Reply 4):
opportunity to play a 18 hole golf game

Yeah, maybe on VS! LOL  laughing 



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User currently offlineCATHAY747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6077 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 6):
If the A380 is boarding via 2 jetways, you cannot blindly assume it's going to be a nightmare to board

Valid counter-points, but my concern is the number of airports that do NOT have dual-jetways at many, if any, gates, such as LAX, LHR and even JFK. Now HKG is an exception, as nearly EVERY gate is dual-jetway-equipped, IIRC from my visits there.



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User currently offlineZephyr98 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6074 times:

Have to agree with Cathay747, the boarding and deplaning and baggage would be a major pain. And what if you were running behind schedule and trying to connect to another flight....would be a nightmare !!!  Smile And I seriously pity the ground crew that has the first cancelled flight from one of those....OMG !!!


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User currently offlineCATHAY747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6065 times:

Quoting Zephyr98 (Reply 9):
And I seriously pity the ground crew that has the first cancelled flight from one of those....OMG !!!

Yeah, especially if JAL or ANA ever order any for DOMESTIC ops...can you imagine??? 1000 seats at 26" pitch!!!! YIKES!!!  wideeyed 



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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6045 times:

Quoting CATHAY747 (Reply 8):
Valid counter-points, but my concern is the number of airports that do NOT have dual-jetways at many, if any, gates, such as LAX, LHR and even JFK. Now HKG is an exception, as nearly EVERY gate is dual-jetway-equipped, IIRC from my visits there.

Um, many airports board 744s with one jetway. The second jetway is usually for premium flyers, it just takes out time necessary for premium boarding. It happens, and it's usually ok. While the A380 seats more people, it's not going to be THAT significant a jump. By your logic you should never fly on anything larger than a 737.

As for baggage -- a rush of 3 744 dumping 350 pax each into an airport is going to be a much more significant issue than one A380. Now, if an airport has three or four A380s coming in at the same time, it could indeed be a problem. But then, people like you who believe it'll be hell to travel on one of these things tend to think it won't sell, so you won't have that problem anyway.


User currently offlineCATHAY747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6039 times:

Quoting MarshalN (Reply 11):
While the A380 seats more people, it's not going to be THAT significant a jump

CX 744 config #1 = 383 total seats, 172 MORE than A380 standard quoted config (3-class) of 555 seats.

CX 744 config #2 = 345 total seats, 210 MORE than A380 " " " "

You don't consider that a "significant jump"? That's a 744 PLUS either a 752 (2-class) or a 763 (3-class) combined into one gate and bag claim carousel.

[Edited 2005-10-24 00:51:53]


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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6018 times:

Quoting CATHAY747 (Reply 12):


CX 744 config #1 = 383 total seats, 172 MORE than A380 standard quoted config (3-class) of 555 seats.

Yes, quoted pax is 555, but as far as we know, operators like SQ or QF are going to be running it at significantly lower numbers (something like 420? I don't remember). That, IMO, isn't a huge jump from current numbers.


User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1013 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6019 times:

I am not too worried about boarding or baggage claim - I just wonder how the airports adopt to the higher capacity, i.e. how much larger are the departure lounges? At many airports, they are very cramped with a 744 already, and airports must have much larger lounges available for the A380. I know the airports are working on being equipped for the the A380, but again, the 744 can be a pain at the departure lounges already...

However, I can't wait to fly on the A380 (and the 787), and I also signed up for the SQ newsletter... We will have to wait and see  Wink

Cheers
micha


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5959 times:

There's any difference between 550 pax on a A380 and 430 on a 744?

I can wait for the 787 anyway  Big grin


User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 1):
Hey, as long as my employer is paying the tab, I'll go.

Agree. Big grin

I don't have deep pockets. So if the A380 offers lower fares, I'll be happy to board one. Even if it doesn't, I'll still want to fly in it at least once.


User currently offlineSDLSimme From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5936 times:

I would really like to fly the A380  Smile


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User currently offlineAviation From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 1143 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

I would love to travel on it!



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User currently offlineCruzinAltitude From United States of America, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5900 times:

I do look forward to the opportunity to fly on the A380.

I also really look forward to the first time I'm eating an In & Out, double double, animal style at LAX and see one landing right over me.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 15):
There's any difference between 550 pax on a A380 and 430 on a 744?

Yes, 120 pax and 2 full decks.

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 15):
I can wait for the 787 anyway

What's the difference between the 787 and 767? I can wait for it, just another boring twin in our skys.  Wink

I can't wait to fly on the A380 myself.



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3769 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5854 times:

I'd fly it for the fun of flying it, but I'm not exactly desperate to get on it.

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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5853 times:
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Just saw a documentary on Discovery Channel. At this stage I have no desire at all to fly on the A380 in the distant future.

I prefer SA's slow-climbing A343E's and my favourite seat, 75D, where I can stretch out as much as I like or otherwise a flight on one of the A319's. Most of all I absolutely love seat 16C on the B744's.


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User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5852 times:

I have no real desier to fly the A-380, I'm sticking to the747.
But this is just my opinion

Wrighbrothers



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User currently offlineLobster From Germany, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

Thats one monster that I'd rather not fly on. Just thinking about how long it would take to board and deplane, get your baggage, clear customs with that many people on one flight. No thanks.

User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5771 times:

Quoting CATHAY747 (Reply 6):
Valid counter-points, but my concern is the number of airports that do NOT have dual-jetways at many, if any, gates, such as LAX, LHR and even JFK. Now HKG is an exception, as nearly EVERY gate is dual-jetway-equipped, IIRC from my visits there.

Most airports that will be served by the A380 have dual jetways. FRA, ICN, SIN, BKK, NRT, CDG, DXB etc. (BTW, will AMS be able to use it's "behind-the-wing jetways on the A380?) LHR, JFK, and LAX are, if anything, an exeption.

The gruelling part will be immigration, I think. Still, can't wait to fly on the A380! Best way to board, IMO, is by mobile staircase on a remote stand! Imagine all the buses required for the A380!

Cheers
Mats



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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

I'm planning a trip from the UK to Australia in February 2007. If I can get a good deal on SQ and one of the legs is an A380, then I'm happy, but if CX has a better deal I'll go for that.

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