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LHR-AKL: Which Routing?  
User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

I'm planning another trip to New Zealand next year and I'm not sure which routing to take. Last summer I flew LHR-LAX-AKL with NZ but this time I'm either going with 1. BA/QF or 2. CX.

The BA/QF option is LHR-SIN (BA B744) - SIN-SYD (BA B744) - SYD-AKL (QF B763).


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The CX option is LHR-HKG (CX B744) - HKG-AKL (CX A343).


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What do you think? The CX is slightly cheaper but nothing siginificant.

Horus


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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

Personaly I would fly CX!  Smile

Are you planning to stop in SIN, SYD or HKG on the way?

Why not try TG, I realy do enjoy flying them, plus you would get the new A340-600's!  Smile

You could always fly LHR-CAI-BKK on Egypt Air, then connect onto another carrier  Wink

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

I would suggest flying NZ via LAX. but I hear you have to endure a nightmare during the welcome to LAX  


Lee

[Edited 2005-12-02 20:12:16]


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User currently offlineJulesmusician From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Personally I like the west way. When in LA you can meet some stars, have lunch with them. Then if you can stop off at Fiji or Tahiti and enjoy some of their hospitality - believe me dancing polynesian girls at 4am is always welcome as you sip a beer....

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Hi Horus,

Having flown the two, I'd personally rather fly on BA/QF then CX, but the one benefit of CX is that you only have to make one stop.

It's a tough call. I've flown on all three and wasn't really impressed with CX, at least in economy.

I suppose if I had to choose - I'd like go with CX only because of the 1 stop. If you're up for a little more adventure, so with BA/QF.

Let us know what you choose!



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

If you not going to make any stopovers, then I would go NZ just to save time. That got to be at least twenty-two hours in the air. When you're talking about that much time, going a longer route just doesn't make sense or does your body good.

User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

CX with one (wonderful) stop in HKG! How are the timings?

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

I'd go NZ and try out their new product. I guess going through LAX would be a pain but it would beat BA/QF as NZ only has one stop as opposed to two with BA/QF.

Go NZ and try the new seats I say.


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

Quoting Horus (Thread starter):
but this time I'm either going with 1. BA/QF or 2. CX.

Am I the only one with eyes?

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 7):
Go NZ and try the new seats I say.



Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):
then I would go NZ just to save time



Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 2):
I would suggest flying NZ via LAX.



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 8):

Am I the only one with eyes?

Hehe Airxliban. I guess it was easily missed.

BMIFlyer/Julesmusician/AirCop I already tried NZ last summer, and even though it was a really good experience I just want to try something different (I aim to try as many different airlines/aircraft/routings).

Quoting B742 (Reply 1):
Are you planning to stop in SIN, SYD or HKG on the way?

No I'm not planning a stop in SIN or HKG...yet. I will be visiting SYD though after a finish my trip in NZ.

Quoting MarshalN (Reply 6):
CX with one (wonderful) stop in HKG! How are the timings?

Well the timings are fine. There are 4 LHR-HKG and 2 (depending on the day) HKG-LHR flights. How is the Y product on CX A343s?

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 4):
Hi Horus,

Having flown the two, I'd personally rather fly on BA/QF then CX, but the one benefit of CX is that you only have to make one stop.

It's a tough call. I've flown on all three and wasn't really impressed with CX, at least in economy.

I suppose if I had to choose - I'd like go with CX only because of the 1 stop. If you're up for a little more adventure, so with BA/QF.

Let us know what you choose!

Airxliban, to be honest I'm leaning more towards BA/QF simply because I think BA's Y/Y+ product is better than CX's but also because you get to fly more...more 'adventurous' as you said.

Also for a little extra, I could fly NZ instead of QF on the SYD-AKL sector and get to ride on one of their brand new B777s...


ZKSUJ, as a Kiwi I can do with some advice about NZ if you don't mind. Even though I was in your great country a few months back I do have a question or two.


Horus



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Horus,

Look at my Username: have you ever considered LHR-KUL-AKL v.v. ???



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Sure, how can I help you?

User currently offlineCxsjr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Why not fly CX from LHR-HKG on the A343 service, stopover in HKG for a bit, from HKG-SYD on the A346 service, then return from MEL-HKG on the A333 and back to the UK on the A343 again?

I'm off to Oz at the end of Feb and this is exactly the routing/flights I'm taking. We paid £649 incl taxes each.

All you need to buy then is a Boomerang ticket from SYD-AKL-MEL, which when I did it the other way around a couple of years back was cheap as chips!


User currently offlineOzvirginuk From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 396 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

Hi Horus,

Why don't you try VS LHR-HKG-SYD and then use DJ (Pacific Blue) over to AKL, or even NZ. The timings are good, and you have the option or Y or W Class (prem econ) or J if you can afford it. Have just come back from home (BNE) via SYD on VS and VS upper class suite is the ONLY way to fly.

If you are a oneworld FF, and that's what is going to decide it, the go with CX, they are way better than QF and BA.

Enjoy your trip.

Ozvirginuk


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

If you like the unsual way you could fly with Royal Bruniei!!  Smile


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Quoting MH017 (Reply 10):
Look at my Username: have you ever considered LHR-KUL-AKL v.v. ???

Well I'll have a look but I really would prefer BA/QF/CX...

Having said that Malaysia is the one country I would love to visit in Asia. It appeals to me more than other South Asian countries.

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 11):
Sure, how can I help you?

Thanks. You'll get an email pretty soon

Quoting Cxsjr (Reply 12):
Why not fly CX from LHR-HKG on the A343 service, stopover in HKG for a bit, from HKG-SYD on the A346 service, then return from MEL-HKG on the A333 and back to the UK on the A343 again?

Well CX is by far the cheapest and quickest option if i go LHR-AKL. If I can fly with them LHR-HKG (B744), HKG-SYD (A346-never flown before), MEL-HKG (A333-never flown before) and HKG-LHR (A343) then I would be really (really) tempted to go CX.

I'll check out the price for that this week and keep you posted...hmmm interesting

Quoting Ozvirginuk (Reply 13):
If you are a oneworld FF, and that's what is going to decide it, the go with CX, they are way better than QF and BA.

Funnily I never considered VS. I just assumed they'd be more expensive.

I would have to disagree with you about VS being better than BA (having flown both airlines).

Quoting Soups (Reply 14):
If you like the unsual way you could fly with Royal Bruniei!! Smile

Exotic indeed

Horus



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User currently offlineOzvirginuk From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 396 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting Horus (Reply 15):
Funnily I never considered VS. I just assumed they'd be more expensive.

I would have to disagree with you about VS being better than BA (having flown both airlines).

Don't ever assume!!!!! VS pricing tends to mirror what BA are doing and fares to OZ/NZ are very competitive. I have flown VS and BA on the LHR-BNE run (LHR-SYD many more) so many times I've lost count, and for overall comfort and service, VS win hands down.

On VS on the LHR-HKG and HKG-SYD routes, you get alot of Hong Kong crew, and their service skills are top notch....

I would still check it out if I were you......

Oz


User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

I did the NZ and the CX trip, and I have been on BA and QF longhaul on other routings. Since you did NZ via LAX, I would go for CX - the best economy experience I ever did - much better than SQ in my opinion (although there is certainly nothing wrong with SQ). I love BA in longhaul as well, but was not impressed by QF. So it is indeed a close call, but due to the only one stop I think CX is the better bet...

As someone said before: Why not try something different? I wasn't impressed with TG, but I loved the SQ trip. I just did the NZ/LH via HKG as well, and it was a great experience despite the lack of PTVs...

Cheers
micha


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

Cool, post on here when you sent the email.

SUJ


User currently offlineLordanmol From India, joined May 2005, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

I would personally go with Thai as their economy calss product is very good, and also you get IFE.

Regards

LordAnmol



Hmmmmm....
User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Quoting Ozvirginuk (Reply 16):
Don't ever assume!!!!! VS pricing tends to mirror what BA are doing and fares to OZ/NZ are very competitive. I have flown VS and BA on the LHR-BNE run (LHR-SYD many more) so many times I've lost count, and for overall comfort and service, VS win hands down.

On VS on the LHR-HKG and HKG-SYD routes, you get alot of Hong Kong crew, and their service skills are top notch....

I would still check it out if I were you......

Well I guess my instincts were correct and indeed VS are more expensive. Also their limited service (daily) makes it less favourable. Would have been nice to fly them again (flown them twice to the US).

As for BA vs VS. I have always found BA's product to be more superior and consistant (in WT and WT+). Even though seat pitch is the same, BA's seats are more comfortable and the staff more professional. Having said that VS are still a very good airline, but BA are just one step ahead. Period

Quoting ZKEOJ (Reply 17):
I love BA in longhaul

Absolutely

Quoting ZKEOJ (Reply 17):
I did the NZ and the CX trip, and I have been on BA and QF longhaul on other routings. Since you did NZ via LAX, I would go for CX - the best economy experience I ever did -........So it is indeed a close call, but due to the only one stop I think CX is the better bet..

Well CX is the cheaper and quickest option and I've never flown them before. Even though it is a one-stop service I really have no problem (in fact I prefer) more stops as it means more flying. Cxsjr's suggestions of flying CX on this routing: LHR-HKG (B744), HKG-SYD (A346-never flown before), MEL-HKG (A333-never flown before) and HKG-LHR (A343) is extremely tempting. I could then fly NZ SYD-AKL on a B777 and AKL-MEL on a QF B743...mmmmmmm

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 18):
Cool, post on here when you sent the email.

Check your email

Quoting Lordanmol (Reply 19):
I would personally go with Thai as their economy calss product is very good, and also you get IFE.

I've decided to give TG a miss on this trip. Nothing against them but I had to limit my choices.


Horus



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User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 2245 times:

Quoting Horus (Reply 20):
could then fly NZ SYD-AKL on a B777

You gotta hurry for that one! NZ is only using the 777 on TransTasman flights for a couple of months. They are then going on the AKL-SFO routing. In fact, I think the first 777 is already doing that. My colleague is on the 777 to SFO next week (on the 12th)... Usually, NZ uses A320 and B763 on the TransTasman routes, and occasionally the B733...

Have a great trip - I am sure you will be happy with CX!

Cheers
micha


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2194 times:

what about AR LON-BUE-AKL




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User currently offlineBuckieboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

All,

Slightly off topic, however I flew SQ in 1995 from MAN to CHC in the days that the plane stopped in BOM. It was the cheapest of all to CHC and my most enjoyable experience in long-haul economy ever. It was relatively important for me to get to CHC at the time and I ended up flying AKL to CHC twice in B744s, which was pretty cool for a relatively short flight. I have a preference for Asian carriers, so I'd go either SQ, CX, TG or MH.

Alas, we are all different! Big grin

Enjoy!

Buckieboy


User currently offlineDoor5Right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 707 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

Are you mad! Fly SIA and transit/break the journey at Changi. This way you can also check out some of the amazing LCC's like Jetstar Asia or Tiger if you want a side trip out of Singapore (or nip across border to take advantage of Air Asia's INCREDIBLY cheap flights round Malaysia. SIA allow breaks at Changi and u can get a bargain budget room AIRSIDE for only £27 for a 12 hour block - Chagis is heaven, heaven, heaven!


My soul is in the sky...
25 RCS763AV : Can i suggest a couple of crazy routings??? LGW-MAD-EZE-AKL on Air Plus and AR LHR-MIA-SCL-AKL on AA/BA and LA LHR-MAD-SCL-AKL on IB/BA and LA LHR-ICN
26 Post contains links and images Cedars747 : MALAYSIA TRULY ASIA.......FLY MH View Large View MediumPhoto © Eduard Brantjes
27 Planemanofnz : You could fly BA to LAX and QF to AKL? Personally I would take LAN via MAD and SCL however my 2nd choice would be EI from LHR to LAX and NZ to AKL.
28 Zkojh : you could always go LGW-HKG-AKL with NZ when it comes online in Oct 06
29 Post contains images ZKSUJ : What about TN? fly to GDC and go to AKL via LAX and PPT. Would be a great experience!!!
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