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What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?  
User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

Hello everyone  Smile
I was wondering, what would people give up for a cheap LONG HAUL ticket.
1) Think of this.

SAY Ryanair were starting long haul flights with a 757. Would you put up with ALL of these things for a £150 ticket ?

28in leg room.
No head/leg/foot rests.
No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).
All catering would have to be payed for ( including drinks).
No duty free.
a 3 seating abreast config.
No hot food.
No window shades/blinds.
No recline.
No reading lights.
No free things ( i.e - pre flight drinks and snacks, kids stuff etc.)
Single class interior ( not that bad I know).
a departure from STN at 4:00 am.
A routing of..
STN-DUB-YHZ-SAN-FLL-AMA-CMH-DUB-STN ?

2) What WOULD you give up for a cheap flight ?

Wrighbrothers


Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

I would be willing to give up all said amenities, barring the ridiculous itinerary, since I simply couldn't handle so many crazy stops. as long as the flight was truly "cheap", but not expensive, and merely having the services taken away under the guise of some cheap fares (*cough* US Majors *cough*)


What now?
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4584 times:

I would not be willing to do any of those things except duty free (find it pointless), and as long as I know in advance I'm not paying for food and drink and they offer food worth buying, that's fine too.


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User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

If I knew upfront and in advance not to expect anything on your list, I would be ok. I would not budge on punctuality, however.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4539 times:

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 3):
If I knew upfront and in advance not to expect anything on your list, I would be ok.

you'd sit in a 28" pitch, no headrest, no recline seat for 24 hours as long as you knew in advance?

Before you commit to that, try it for 10...



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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
28in leg room.
28in leg room.
No recline.

Not sure what the pitch is currently, but 2 1/2 hrs STN-MJV was about the most I could stand with the non recline.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).

They had IFE for hire with a limited selection of DVDs? Well, at least they did when I flew them back in Jan.



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User currently offlineBaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

Surely this question is the same as asking "How rich are you?"

Everyone would like to travel first class but very few can actually afford to. The rest of us then have to make a compromise between cost and amenities.

Personally I usually fly WT+ on BA because I can afford to and I am happy with the price for the comfort I get, but when I first starting working (16 years ago) and wasn't earning very much I was flying in economy and looking for the cheapest possible fares without much thought to the level of service I would be getting.



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User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4476 times:

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 5):
They had IFE for hire with a limited selection of DVDs? Well, at least they did when I flew them back in Jan.

If I remember correctly, The trail was unsuccessful, and they stopped it, but Easy Jet tried it, and I think it's now on use on most flights ( over 2 hours I think)

Wrighbrothers



Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
1. 28in leg room.
2. No head/leg/foot rests.
3. No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).
4. All catering would have to be payed for ( including drinks).
5. No duty free.
6. a 3 seating abreast config.
7. No hot food.
8. No window shades/blinds.
9. No recline.
10. No reading lights.
11. No free things ( i.e - pre flight drinks and snacks, kids stuff etc.)
12. Single class interior ( not that bad I know).
13. a departure from STN at 4:00 am.

1. Would be prepared to give up an inch or 2. Most QF Y class are now 30-31 inches so what's the difference.

2. u're talking Y class right ? Don't ever remember leg/foot rests in Y & even in C, don't do anything unless youy're about 4 feet tall !!!

3. IFE hasn't worked or hasn't worked on so many trans-Pacific flights I've ben on over the last 12 months (both QF & UA) that feel the way for airlines to go is to rent or sell (duty free) portable DVD players. They're getting so cheap. Saw one the other day for AUD$149 (~USD$109) which included 10% GST & probably some duty. If a large airline approached a manufacturer & said they wanted thousands, they'd probably get them for almost nothing !!!

When they break - throw them away & use a new one. It's a throw away world & makes more sense than what sems like very expensive IFE systems. (nothing worse than a faulty IFE system holding up departure of large expensive bus)!!!

4. On a long flight eg. over say 4 hours, u have to get something basic, even bread & water (sandwiches & bottles of water - not airline water(don't want to kill pax)). The longer the flight the more catering has to be included. Ie. for a long flight from OZ, for breakfast, maybe minimum cereal, fruit (apple) & cup of tea & water.

5. In flight duty free in most cases seems more expensive with little choice than airport duty free (I guess though captive market) This is a small profit centre for airlines/crew on charters, so would not be cut out.

6. 3-3 ? Again r u talking Y ??? or do u mean 3-3-3 in a 332 like Air Transat instead of normal 2-4-2 or 2-4-2 in high density 767?

7. light meals are actually better on long haul anyway & this means u can keep it basic & low cost

8, 9 & 10. Most aircraft has these. (only some brand new Ryanair don't I believe)

11. apart from kids stuff, who gives these in Y?

12. yeh

13. Australians are used to departing at any time. BNE for example has departures almost 24 hours a day. Not a lot ot 0300, but plenty until 0030 & then ramp up again at 0500.


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
u're talking Y class right ?

Yes, I'm talking a single class aircraft ( Y only)

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
3-3 ? Again r u talking Y ??? or do u mean 3-3-3 in a 332 like Air Transat instead of normal 2-4-2 or 2-4-2 in high density 767?

Well, the aircraft I was talking about is a 757, whic is a single isle so far as I know. so the cabin lay out would be 3-3

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
(don't want to kill pax)

You sure about that  Wink

Wrighbrothers



Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
All catering would have to be payed for ( including drinks).

Had to pay extra if you wanted in flight meals on a flight from Gatwick to Cuba on My travel



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User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4344 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 9):
Yes, I'm talking a single class aircraft ( Y only)

Uh? So what single aisle commercial aircraft don't have 3-3 seating except regionals ????

How is sitting in 3-3 seats giving up anything then?


User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1008 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
Would be prepared to give up an inch or 2. Most QF Y class are now 30-31 inches so what's the difference.

I think it is a HUGE difference! NZ has 34" on the B744 and SQ on the B777 - and you REALLY feel the difference to the standard 31/32" on most airlines. Going below 31 on a long haul would kill me - and I am not even that tall (5'10")...

I can easily do without all the amenities and services. I can bring my own food (or have a bite at one or a few of the many stops), bring my own iPod, book, laptop, etc... No problem at all for a good fare.

The many stops are appealing to me if I have time. When I am going for business it would be a bit of a long stretch (just took me 50 hours to get from AKL to ADB, arriving at 10pm at the hotel, and giving a keynote next morning - that was a bit too much, hehe). But if I were on holiday, or had a day or two before work at the destination, I'd love to stop a few times.

The one thing you didn't mention, but which became quite important to me now, are frequent flyer miles. Ryanair doesn't have those, and a concept like the one you proposed will most likely not offer that either...

Overall, it really boils down to HOW MUCH cheaper it is. For 100 quid more I'd certainly go for a "mainstream" airline...

Cheerio
micha


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 11):
How is sitting in 3-3 seats giving up anything then?

I didn't say it was giving up anything, I was just saying that was the cabin layout.

Wrighbrothers



Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

In 1993, i bought a ticket from BEY to SCL with SU for (310$) because it was very cheap giving up everything for money(AF1200$) .The routing was BEY-SVO onboard an IL-85 with ten hours transfer in SVO, than i board an IL-62 from SVO to SCL with a stop in LUX-SNN-MIA.But for my surprise,this flight has became my best ever.The service onboard was far better than expected and the IL-62 was very comfortable


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User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

I would forgo the following off your list.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
Single class interior ( not that bad I know).
a departure from STN at 4:00 am.
A routing of..
STN-DUB-YHZ-SAN-FLL-AMA-CMH-DUB-STN ?
No reading lights.
No free things ( i.e - pre flight drinks and snacks, kids stuff etc.)
No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).

In general I'd rather just fly on NZ staff tickets and would pay for a seat on one of the many airlines that I deem has acceptable seat pitch and service.


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