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Is This Trip Realistic?  
User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1863 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3477 times:
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here is the routing for the RTW trip im planning, feel free to look it over and comment on whether you think this trip is realistic, if it's not realistic, what should i cut?

the overall goal of the trip is to see as many airports as i can in a two week period, the other goal is to fly on the six major a/c types i've yet to fly on:
A330-200 and 300, 777-300, A340-200, A340-500 and A340-600

your comments are welcome and appreciated!

Northstar boy

1 CO 1510 2SEP DEN IAH 630A 950A S 738 2.20 876 N

2 CO 1646 2SEP IAH ORD 1035A 118P S 733 2.43 935 N

3 CO 1182 2SEP ORD EWR 300P 626P 735 2.26 721 N

4 CO 474 2SEP EWR SJU 955P 140A1 D 739 3.45 1607 N

1 AA 381 3SEP SJU ANU 1225P 130P 757 1.05 296 N

2 BW 415 3SEP ANU BGI 435P 535P 738 1.00 320 N

3 BW 991 3SEP BGI POS 640P 735P 343 .55 214 N

4 V0 2103 3SEP POS CCS 1150P 1250A1 S 737 1.00 382 N

2 VH 932 4SEP CCS BOG 100P 200P S M82 2.00 638 N

3 TA* 133 4SEP BOG LIM 400P 655P 319 RF
LIM SCL 905P 1230A1 RF 320 2.25 1527 N



1 AF 417 5SEP SCL EZE 100P 350P M 772 1.50 710 N

2 RG 8641 5SEP EZE GRU 600P 835P D 772 2.35 1056 N


3 RG 8721 6SEP GRU GIG 700A 800A B M11 1.00 228 N

4 RG 2333 6SEP GIG POA 1000A 1200N S 733 2.00 697 N

5 JJ 3442 6SEP POA CWB 415P 520P S 100 1.05 333 N

CWB CPQ 545P 635P S .50 217 N

CPQ CNF 700P 800P D 1.00 304 N

6 JJ 3376 6SEP CNF SSA 1030P 1205A1 D 320 1.35 603 N

7 JJ*6382 7SEP SSA AJU 700A 745A F50 .45 158 N

AJU MCZ 800A 840A .40 134 N

8 JJ 3576 7SEP MCZ REC 110P 145P L 100 .35 113 N

9 RG 2216 7SEP REC FOR 455P 610P S 733 1.15 389 N

10 JJ 3892 7SEP FOR SLZ 730P 840P D 100 1.10 404 N 

SLZ BEL 900P 1000P D 1.00 306 N 

1 RG 2251 8SEP BEL GIG 700A 1030A B 733 3.30 1526 N

GIG GRU 1110A 1210P S 1.00 228 N


2 IB 6824 8SEP GRU MAD 445P 645A1 BD 346 9.00 5211


3 IB 3734 9SEP MAD CAI 450P 940P D 319 3.50 2081 N


1 MS 610 10SEP CAI KWI 815A 1215P 340 4.00 997

2 KU 613 10SEP KWI BAH 500P 600P S 310 1.00 262 N

3 BA 125 10SEP BAH DOH 810P 855P S 777 .45 91 N

4 QR 120 10SEP DOH AUH 1145P 140A1 S 320 .55 191 N

5 GF 602 11SEP AUH DXB 1045A 1130A S 320 .45 79 N

6 EK 502 11SEP DXB BOM 130P 545P M 332 2.45 1199 N

7 AI 310 11SEP BOM DEL 825P 1015P D 310 1.50 708 N

8 9W 901 12SEP DEL CCU 615A 815A B 734 2.00 816 N

9 S2 307 12SEP CCU HYD 1035A 1235P S 737 2.00 740 N

10 IC 948 12SEP HYD MAA 415P 515P S 320 1.00 329 N

11 UL 124 12SEP MAA CMB 900P 1050P H 343 1.20 402 N

1 UL 312 13SEP CMB KUL 705A 1240P B 332 3.35 1524 N

2 KL 809 13SEP KUL CGK 350P 450P D 747 2.00 724 N

3 SQ 163 13SEP CGK SIN 715P 950P M 345 1.35 557 N

4 SQ 60 14SEP SIN BKK 845A 1010A M 773 2.25 897 N

5 TG 606 14SEP BKK HKG 400P 745P M 743 2.45 1049 N

6 CX 905 14SEP HKG MNL 955P 1150P R 773 1.55 712 N


7 PR 896 15SEP MNL TPE 705A 905A B 320 2.00 731 N

8 TG 634 15SEP TPE ICN 1250P 415P M 773 2.25 911 N

9 KE 805 15SEP ICN GUM 830P 150A1 D 772 4.20 2002 N

10 NW 73 16SEP GUM NRT 415P 700P D 742 3.45 1561 N

11 NW 10 16SEP NRT HNL 835P 845A DS 744 7.10 3831 N

12 TZ 4754 16SEP HNL LAX 1100A 715P S 73H 5.15 2553 N

13 HP*6223 16SEP LAX LAS 905P 1009P CR9 1.04 232 N

14 HP 608 16SEP LAS DEN 1150P 238A1 733 1.48 615 N


Why are people so against low yields?! If lower yields means more people can travel abroad, i'm all for it
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User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

So where's the trip report?


bla
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3417 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Thread starter):
here is the routing for the RTW trip im planning, feel free to look it over and comment on whether you think this trip is realistic, if it's not realistic, what should i cut?

Can i be your hand luggage?



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlinePanaman From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

You have to much time on your hands do something constructive like help the homeless or volunteer at a hospital. You might find a calling worth something.


Sorry I moved from SXM, looking for a new house on Anguilla now!
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3303 times:




Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Thread starter):
RG 8641 5SEP EZE GRU 600P 835P D 772 2.35 1056 N


3 RG 8721 6SEP GRU GIG 700A 800A B M11 1.00 228 N

4 RG 2333 6SEP GIG POA 1000A 1200N S 733 2.00 697 N

EZE-POA-CWB-GRU-GIG is more realistic

Alex!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineBAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

I know that this is an aviation enthusiasts forum etc...but every now and again somebody really does need some sense slapped into them.

If you did go ahead with this (somewhat over-ambitious) itinerary, it would be such a sad waste of your time. Going to so many countries and not venturing outside of the airport is shocking. Disgusting, even. Even if it is just 24 hours, you should at least try and sample something of your host country. If you have such a burning desire to try and fly as many different aircraft as possible and visit different airports, you really should exercise some patience.

Regardless, no matter how enthusiastic you are, you would eventually become pissed off to high heaven with inefficient Indian airports and the like. A mild delay would utterly scupper your plans.

If you turn out to be Alan Whicker and have actually visited more countries than the number of Xmas cards I received this year, then I apologise. If you are a regular guy with a regular number of passport stamps, I would sternly admonish you for contemplating embarking on a trip that would be so culturally ignorant.



I need to get laid
User currently offlineNHGrafx From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

I hope you got lots of money because this sounds like it will cost a small fortune.


Is it weird I have a RemoveBeforeFlight pitot cover on my car rear view mirror?
User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3248 times:

Man, you must be into pain.

User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3235 times:

Unlike others, I can appreciate the idea of doing it just to do it, as a true airplane trip.

But it does sound pretty brutal. I think you'll quickly find that everything runs into everything else after the first 48 hours or so.

Try building up your endurance by doing a shorter version, say, DEN-SFO-NRT-BKK-CDG-JFK-DEN and see how that goes.

 Smile

Put me in the jealous catagory, though, if you do it!

Steve


User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7335 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

It is tough flying a schedule like that, but stuff what everyone else says I say if you got the time, the inclination & most importantly the money, then why not? You can always go back and do it all again with more time in the destinations later. I do both kinds of trip, I do the adventure trips where I go and visit somewhere I haven't been, and I do plane spotting trips, where the only point of my trip is to take plane photos and get new regos so I only visit/transit airports.

Quoting Panaman (Reply 3):
You have to much time on your hands do something constructive like help the homeless or volunteer at a hospital. You might find a calling worth something.

Sod off, It's a bit overambitious, but honestly flying for enjoyment is as constructive as helping some bum on a street pay for his next packet a cigarettes and bottle of moonshine. It may not be your cup of tea, but it is by no means a waste of time or money.


User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1863 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3173 times:
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First of all, thanks everyone for the feedback, both positive and negative, i appreciate it.

i think ultimately this trip is about me pushing my own limits, deciding for myself what is too much and what i can handle in the future. to be sure, this is, most likely, a one time thing, i doubt i'll do something like it again. i think the trip is also about going places i've never been before, to fly their national airlines, check out the efficiency or inefficiency of their airports, and see their scenery from 35,000 feet. the trip is also about flying airplanes i've never flown on before. i've never been to south america, i've never been to the middle east, i've never been to India or Sri Lanka, i've been to Asia twice, but not to the Phillippines, Korea, or Taiwan.

having done my fair share of international travel, i build into the trip at least two hours between connections on as many legs as i can, because i understand that there are eventualities such as canceled flights, delayed flights and whatnot that, if i don't allow myself leadtime, can cause problems, i also realize that if a flight is delayed or canceled and i know where i need to be by the end of the day, the airline will take care of me, and if worse comes to worse, i can buy a direct ticket to be where i need to be for the start of the next day.

on the the issue of cost: 9600 approximately, 6000 out of my own pocket, 3500 from my parents.

planning the trip has been half the fun, figuring out how many legs i can fly per day, the routings, and how cheap i can get the trip, are all part of the fun. the flying, of course will also be fun, not to mention the 48 new regos i get to add to the 395 i already have. will i be exhausted when i get home? i'm sure i will, but it will be something i'll remember for the rest of my days, if only to say to myself "do you remember the time you decided to drill a hole in your head and do 48 sectors in 14 days?"

once again, thanks for your input



Why are people so against low yields?! If lower yields means more people can travel abroad, i'm all for it
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

What if one of your flight was cancelled or delayed for mechanical/weather reasons?
U will probably loose the rest of the journeys



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20784 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Thread starter):
2 VH 932 4SEP CCS BOG 100P 200P S M82 2.00 638 N
3 TA* 133 4SEP BOG LIM 400P 655P 319 RF
LIM SCL 905P 1230A1 RF 320 2.25 1527 N
1 AF 417 5SEP SCL EZE 100P 350P M 772 1.50 710 N

If it were me, I'd try to get onto a classic 727 with Lloyd Aero Boliviano for part of this routing.

http://www.labairlines.com/index_eng.asp



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6840 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 8):
Man, you must be into pain.

Yep, one flight can be bad enough, but upto 4 a day for 2 weeks. Even pilots don't fly that much. Planning any sleep at all?

I do think you are cutting it very fine. One delay and the whole rest of the schedule could go out the window, especially if you get stuck in the wilds and there aren't daily flights to the next port of call.



wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 11):
i've never been to India

You won't be going to India if you don't have a visa from them. Have you considered all the visas you may have to get before your flights even start?

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 11):
i also realize that if a flight is delayed or canceled and i know where i need to be by the end of the day, the airline will take care of me, and if worse comes to worse, i can buy a direct ticket to be where i need to be for the start of the next day

For the price you are saying you can do this for you'll be the last one the airlines will care about if a flight is delayed. Cheap fare = first one booted/last one rescheduled.

That said, good luck although I think you are wasting valuable time visiting the countries you would be flying into.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3995 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

I haven't done too much for the needy myself lately. But I sincerely hope for you that you will miss a flight somewhere in Bolivia or India, get out of the terminal, and experience life there with its cons and pros.


The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
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