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User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Would you be afraid to fly in a plane that is made in the 60s or the 70s? Such as a DC9 or a 742? Do you care how old a plane is?

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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3207 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

I don't really mind about the age, I don't usually find out to be honest. If the plane looked in very bad condition though I would consider maybe getting a different flight.


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User currently offlineNHGrafx From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

I have nothing against flying in an old plane as long as it has been well taken care of and properly maintained. I would rather fly in a impeccably maintained 731 or 732 than one that looks like its been to hell and back, although thats not a very sound argument because I have seen nearly new planes that look like they have been to hell and back. But generally, I don't really mind old planes.


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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

Hi

I'd be more nervous of flying a new 777 or A340 that looks like crap inside and out than flying a Dc-9 that looks brand new and can clearly see maintained to the highest standard

Rgds --James--



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User currently offlineThepilot From Canada, joined Jan 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

I don't mind old vs. new plane, I like the type of plane and the airline more.
Just a fun fact, after retiring their 737-200s, WestJet now operates the youngest fleet in North America.



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting NHGrafx (Reply 2):
I have nothing against flying in an old plane as long as it has been well taken care of and properly maintained

That's exactly how i feel.


User currently offlineLawrenceMck From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

The older the aircraft the better I'd say. To be honest I don't think about how airworthy the aircraft is because it has to pass a certain degree of safety before it fly's anyway. Nowadays there aren't too many old aircraft operating. Back in August I flew on a Boeing 747-200 (TF-ABA) which is now out of service, I feel kinda honoured to be one of the last groups of passengers to have flown on this beautiful bird.


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User currently offlineReidYYZ From Kyrgyzstan, joined Sep 2005, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

I'll say one thing, a 30yr old Tristar is more reliable than when an A330 gets up to 20yrs. IMHO

User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Thread starter):
Such as a DC9 or a 742? Do you care how old a plane is?

Hm...is this post directly targeting NW? The only US airline that still flies DC9s and 742s?  Smile



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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 968 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

The older, the better. 20+ years is fine.
The more beat up, the better. Peeling paint and a rough, beaten cabin don't bother me at all.

I find flights to be more of a fun adventure on rickety, old airplanes! Especially when things go wrong with them!

Quoting ReidYYZ (Reply 7):
I'll say one thing, a 30yr old Tristar is more reliable than when an A330 gets up to 20yrs. IMHO

I agree. And if I could have a choice for a flight on a 30 year old L-1011, B-747, B-727 or DC-9 instead of a five year old airplane, the old airplane is the winner.



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User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3148 times:

I flew in a 62 year-old DC3 last week, so I guess the answer is no.

User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

I have no problem just as long as it is maintained.Plus I have flown in several P-51's, DC-3's,B-17 and a B-24.  Smile

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Quoting Nonfirm (Reply 11):
have no problem just as long as it is maintained.

And again, before I flew on these two planes last week, I checked their age from the list I brought with me and funny enough I felt more comfortable on a 2 year old 777, than a 16 year old 747.


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User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3105 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 12):
I felt more comfortable on a 2 year old 777, than a 16 year old 747.

is that because you felt less could go wrong with the two year old plane.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3094 times:

Quoting Nonfirm (Reply 13):
is that because you felt less could go wrong with the two year old plane.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the sweet 16, but this 777 still had that brand new smell, oh what am I trying to say, yeah you are right. I felt safer in a newer plane. Go figure that!


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

Here's my favorite NW DC9. I've flown it more than any other airliner. It doesn't bother me that it's over 38 years old.


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3083 times:
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I fly 732s and 727s regularly, until recently SAA were still operating 742s, my wife is a f/a on DC-4s and DC-3s, as long as they are properly maintained age is not a factor for me.


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User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 14):
I felt safer in a newer plane

I understand completely.


User currently offlineJAFA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 782 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

Old planes didn't get old by being unsafe.
I would rather fly a 5-20 year old design that has all the kinks worked out, and of course properly maintained.


User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Thread starter):
Would you be afraid to fly in a plane that is made in the 60s or the 70s? Such as a DC9 or a 742? Do you care how old a plane is?

Absolutely I care....I actively try and get on the older types. They won't be around forever you know...


User currently offlineVarig_dc10 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

Flew on these two aircraft before Christmas:


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Nationwide 727-281, ZS-OZR. First flight 15th June 1972.


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1 Time DC-9-32, ZS-NRB. Manufactured on 28th October 1970.

Could have flown on newer aircraft with Kulula, Comair or South African Airways. But I picked Nationwide and 1 Time so that I could log these old aircraft.

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User currently offlineRyGuy From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2981 times:

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 4):
after retiring their 737-200s, WestJet now operates the youngest fleet in North America.

you gotta love WestJet!!!
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User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

I'll fly a DC-3/4/6 any day if it's been maintained. This year is the 70th birthday of the DC-3 and there are still plenty flying, most still operating in Part 135 or 121 service in different places. They'll probably still be flying well after the 767s and similar types have been relegated to museums or the scrap heap.


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User currently offlineTg 747-300 From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

The older the better. Give me a early born jet any day.

The newer planes, I'd rather wait with till they get older once in the furure.

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User currently offlineDeltaGuy767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 661 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Quoting Skydrol (Reply 9):
I find flights to be more of a fun adventure on rickety, old airplanes! Especially when things go wrong with them!

Amen to that my friend. I flew from CUN-Merida in an Aerocarribe DC-9 and once we got on the runway and the Capt. applied full power, the airframe began to shake and ricket. It continued to do that inflight and when we were on approach, the right engine cut and I could feel the airplane buffet due to the power loss. Then the Capt. appiled almost full in the left and we made it down with fire trucks and the calvary following us all the way to the gate.  bigthumbsup 

From BDL wave 
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User currently offlineFlyingRev From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

You might find that this topic "How Is An Aircraft's Safety Tested?" is very helpful to you. You can find it under civil aviation archived. Many of these same things are discussed, but you will find some very interesting information about older a/c and how they are rated, tested, and about their reliability.

Hope this helps!

Happy Flying,
FlyingRev


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