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What Would You Do To Prevent Hijacking?  
User currently offlineJamesJimlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5695 times:

personally my self i think there should be a handreader thing ( for pilots only not even flight attendants.) or a password that only the pilots know. you?


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User currently offlineRyGuy From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5690 times:

If i recall correctly, WestJet has a this special swipe key, i believe they are called FOB's.
and I remember the late JetsGo had a security password that only the Captains of the airline knew.

Take Care.

RyGuy



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User currently offlineSeanp11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

Almost every airliner now has a system in place where someone wanting to gain access to the cockpit has to get the pilots to let them in, but there is an override code that the flight attendants have, but will give the pilots plenty of time to improvise a weapon if a hijacker uses it to try to gain access to the cockpit. Flight attendants do need access to the cockpit, in case of both pilots being incapicitated.

User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5640 times:

Quoting RyGuy (Reply 1):
WestJet has a this special swipe key, i believe they are called FOB's

That seems kind of silly, seeing as the hijackers could simply "swipe" away the FOB from the FA (excuse the pun!)

Just my $0.02 (CDN)

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User currently offlineDeltaGuy767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 649 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5636 times:

I would think the most practical thing would be to have a camera pointed to the outside of the cockpit door and a monitor in the cockpit. Then the pilots would be able to buzz in the flight attendant to bring them food etc. In the case of having the pilots incapacitated, I think a number code on a keypad would suffice, if only the flight crew knew the code. Also I think Boeing and Airbus should impliment a hijack feature on their autopilot systems so that the aircraft will atuomatically fly itself to the nearest suitable airport and lands. This feature should idealy include a nonoverride feature so that the hijackers will not be able to take control of the aircraft. Just my twocents .

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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5627 times:

I'd promote world peace and cultural understanding.  angel 

That way they'd be no need for hijacking.  Wink


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

Air Marshals... more of them! But i'm into Law Enforcement.. so that's my opinion.


Quoting JamesJimlb (Thread starter):
a password that only the pilots know

i like that idea as well.. but i don't know if it would take you too far!.. what do you think ?


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21129 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5604 times:

I think I remember a story when one of the crew went to the bathroom during the flight, and forgot the password to get back in. The flight had to divert.

Aircraft going to DCA used to have a password to give to ATC in order to be allowed to approach the airport. One flight got it wrong, and had to divert to IAD and be thoroughly searched before the pax were allowed to get off.

So maybe passwords aren't the best idea.  Smile

I like electronic locks with a camera so that the pilots can identify who is trying to come in, with an override code so that the F/A can get in in an emergency.

-Mir



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5598 times:

Simple, outfit all planes with those doors that prevent entry and arm the pilots. El Al has the right idea.

User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7135 posts, RR: 87
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5596 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
. El Al has the right idea.

Is LY allowed to carry firearms on flights into North America? If so, why doesn't it work both ways...letting US pilots fly armed on international flights?

Thanks!!!


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

The best ways are to keep potential hijackers off the aircraft in the first place, limiting access to the cockpit and training pilots and cabin crew in procedures in case of a hijacking or other event.
ElAl, because of their unique situtaion, is the absolute best at reducing all those major areas of risk but is at a level unacceptable to any other airline due to costs, time, facilities and invasions of passanger's privacy. In the meantime, much can be done in simplier ways to reduce the risks.
A properly run TSA, like seen in many EC and Asian countries, can have well trained people along with sound and effective procedures keeping off potential troublemakers as well as potential weapons and bombs.
Limiting access to the cockpit, including 2-door or reinforced door systems with coded bypass systems for emergency crew access or access for food and toilet facilites by cockpit crews are already well established on many airlines. Had they been in effect prior to 9/11, they probably would have prevented those terror acts.
While there are limitations at this time on systems to operate a/c remotely in case of a hijacking where the cockpit is taken over, those could be developed over the next several years. In the meantime, there can be training of cabin crew to thrwat acts along with armed Air Marshalls. Pilots can have coded messages from cabin crew to make severe manuvers of the aircraft that will disrupt hijackings early on.


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