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User currently offlineZoheb From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 184 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week ago) and read 3297 times:

My aunt has decided to come with me to JED, however for her to take the same flights as me on EK would have cost her around £1500, which is why she is now flying from CDG, as CDG-DXB-JED return on EK was £460, booked via the EK website (www.emirates.com).

The thing is, her flight from AF flight, LHR-CDG reaches CDG at 12:25, whilst the EK flight is at 15:30. Will 3 hours 5 Minutes be enough time for her connect from AF in Terminal 2F to EK in 2C? Also will she need to leave the airport and re-enter? Does she need to get her bags and go between the terminals, or is she able to send her bags to EK from Terminal 2F?

She has been advised by EK to pick up her transit hotel voucher from the EK ticket desk, where is this located. Is she able to do this from after the baggage claim section?

Also, do you think its better for me to go with her to CDG to help her, as my flight from LHR isn't till 20:30. I am getting a return airfare from LHR-CDG for under £90. Not that my French is any good but still, it might be better for her. What are your views?

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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Quoting Zoheb (Thread starter):
AF flight, LHR-CDG reaches CDG at 12:25, whilst the EK flight is at 15:30. Will 3 hours 5 Minutes be enough time for her connect from AF in Terminal 2F to EK in 2C?

3 hours is enough time (even at CDG T2) to make that connection.

Quoting Zoheb (Thread starter):
Also will she need to leave the airport and re-enter?

CDG T2 consists of 6 Halls ("Concourses" to U.S.-people); they located across eachother with a layout as:
A - C - E
B - D - F
Connections are best done by walking enclosed corridors.
T2F uses buses from/to the a/c on remote stands.

As your aunt will need to get her EK-checkin at CDG anyhow, there will be no sense for her to use an "airside" bus to connect from 2F to 2C; she should walk.

Quoting Zoheb (Thread starter):
Does she need to get her bags and go between the terminals, or is she able to send her bags to EK from Terminal 2F?

I don´t know if AF and EK have an interline agreement. If your aunt is travelling on two separate tickets, chances are rather low, that AF will take care of checking-through her luggage onto the continuing EK-flight.
Call Air France to get the confirmed info about interlining.

Quoting Zoheb (Thread starter):
She has been advised by EK to pick up her transit hotel voucher from the EK ticket desk, where is this located.

at DXB ?!

Quoting Zoheb (Thread starter):
Also, do you think its better for me to go with her to CDG to help her, as my flight from LHR isn't till 20:30. I am getting a return airfare from LHR-CDG for under £90. Not that my French is any good but still, it might be better for her. What are your views?

In case your aunt is at least a slightly experienced flyer, she should be able to navigate through CDG T2 and to communicate with the staff around in English. Though I do not like to connect in CDG T2, those staff I met were very well able to communicate the necessary information in English.
And while not every signpost at CDG shows the optimum way from place A to B, somebody with a basic sense of orientation hardly can get lost.
As a comparison: Navigation through CDG T2´s 6 halls/concourses is much (!) easier than through LHR.

In order to prepare your aunt for her connection through CDG T2, go to www.adp.fr and get a map of CDG T2. Show your aunt the basics and she should be fine.

-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineOkees From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 424 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

3 hours is more than enough! i used to have 50 minutes to transfer between terminals to catch my next flight, and i had enough time to trasfer, sit down for a coffee before they started boarding calls.

Quoting HT (Reply 1):
Connections are best done by walking enclosed corridors.

That may not always be the case. Between E and F it is best done by corridors, but distance between C and F is quite long, and i dont think there is even a corridor between them. If you have 3 hours to connect, the bus wouldnt be a problem.

CDG T2 is full of signs. All you have to do is read them properly. Some people complain that transfering is confusing there, but if you read the signs properly, theres nothing confusing about transferring there!

As for the baggage issue, if she checks in for both flights from LHR, i think her bags will be trasnferred to the EK flight. It would be better if you ask though.

Quoting HT (Reply 1):
In order to prepare your aunt for her connection through CDG T2, go to www.adp.fr and get a map of CDG T2. Show your aunt the basics and she should be fine.

Thats a good idea. But dont worry, 3 hours is way more than enough, and if she were to get lost, the staff at the airport are very helpful and informative.

regards
okees



mobs jakis
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

Quoting Okees (Reply 2):
and i dont think there is even a corridor between them.

There is.

Quoting Okees (Reply 2):
the bus wouldnt be a problem.

That lady will not have an onward Boarding pass in her hands (she will not be able to check-in with EK at LHR). I therefore assume, she will be denied to use the airside bus.

Quoting Okees (Reply 2):
As for the baggage issue, if she checks in for both flights from LHR,

Technically very difficult, as AF and EK use different terminals at LHR.
Plus it is rather doubtful, if EK will check her in at LHR for a flight out of CDG.

Quoting Okees (Reply 2):
i used to have 50 minutes to transfer between terminals to catch my next flight, and i had enough time to trasfer, sit down for a coffee before they started boarding calls.

Keep in mind that that lady will have to go through inbound immigration (the U.K. is not part of Schengen-area), in case she cannot interline she will have to pickup her luggage, make her way from 2f to 2C (10-15 Minutes), queue at EK counter for new check-in, go through outboud immigration and security control
I have seen some pretty long waiting lines (for european standards) at outbound immigration and security control at CDG, while not all stations were staffed (I used CDG on 5 days in 2005 and every single time somebody was on strike ...)
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineOkees From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 424 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 3):

Thanks for clarifying, not a big traveller within the EU, so not sure about their policies. I usually have AF tickets all the way, so everything i said applies to me. I guess it doesnt to different tickets.

Thanks
okees



mobs jakis
User currently offlineZoheb From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 1):
Quoting Zoheb (Thread starter):
She has been advised by EK to pick up her transit hotel voucher from the EK ticket desk, where is this located.

at DXB ?!

No, at CDG. So, where will the EK ticket desk be in CDG and how far from check in?

Quoting HT (Reply 1):
I don´t know if AF and EK have an interline agreement. If your aunt is travelling on two separate tickets, chances are rather low, that AF will take care of checking-through her luggage onto the continuing EK-flight.
Call Air France to get the confirmed info about interlining.

No, I don't think they have an interline agreement. What should she do? Does she collect her baggage, leave the airport and then re-enter?

Quoting HT (Reply 3):
Quoting Okees (Reply 2):
the bus wouldnt be a problem.

That lady will not have an onward Boarding pass in her hands (she will not be able to check-in with EK at LHR). I therefore assume, she will be denied to use the airside bus.

So, how long is the walk from 2F to 2C?

Quoting HT (Reply 3):
Keep in mind that that lady will have to go through inbound immigration (the U.K. is not part of Schengen-area), in case she cannot interline she will have to pickup her luggage, make her way from 2f to 2C (10-15 Minutes), queue at EK counter for new check-in, go through outboud immigration and security control
I have seen some pretty long waiting lines (for european standards) at outbound immigration and security control at CDG, while not all stations were staffed (I used CDG on 5 days in 2005 and every single time somebody was on strike ...)

oh, O.K. so this is the most likely run of events?

Do you think my aunt should check in online for EK, will it speed up the procedure? The thing is as she has a stop-over in DXB, will she be able to just check in the CDG-DXB sector?

Thanks for all your help. We really appreciate it.


User currently offlineZoheb From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

Basically, what would be your step by step guide for her. From the AF counter in LHR to the EK counter in CDG?

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Quoting Zoheb (Reply 5):
So, where will the EK ticket desk be in CDG and how far from check in?

I don´t know, but it SHOULD be in T2C (the concourse where also EK´s checkin is performed). That building isn´t that big and it can be navigated rather easily; it should be only a few minutes walk within the building.

Quoting Zoheb (Reply 6):
what would be your step by step guide for her.

Okay, some steps are pretty obvious, but ...
  • check in with AF to CDG at LHR T2
  • go through security
  • proceed to departure gate (incl. outbound immigration)
  • at CDG 2F: Go through inbound immigration
  • retrieve checked luggage
  • make your way from T2F to T2C on foot (10-15 minutes; clearly signposted; all corridors are covered)
  • at T2C, proceed to EK´s Ticket desk to pickup your Stay-over-voucher for DXB
  • goto EK´s check-in; check-in pax and luggage for DXB only (my suggestion as I prefer to have my luggage with me during a nightly stopover)
  • proceed to outbound immigration
  • security control
  • goto departure gate
  • enjoy flight to DXB

As your aunt has 3 hours to make the transfer, she should have ample time to carry out all the steps outlined above.
"Online check-in with EK": I don´t know about EK´s current procedures. Call them and ask them if it is possible to check-in online; if not, ask them if they can already assign a seat for your aunt (depending on their reaction, you might want to tweak the truth a bit and tell them, that your aunt is a bit unsure when travelling alone and that a seat already blocked for her will help to ease her nervousness ...).
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineZoheb From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3244 times:

Thanks for all your help.

Quoting HT (Reply 7):
"Online check-in with EK": I don´t know about EK´s current procedures. Call them and ask them if it is possible to check-in online;

EK does indeed offer online check-in: http://www.emirates.com/uk/Traveller...nline_check-in/check-in_online.asp

Quoting HT (Reply 7):
if they can already assign a seat for your aunt

EK are more than happy to assign seats, providing you are a skywards member. I have selected the bulkhead seats on all flights, for my aunt, by looking at the seatmaps on the EK website.

Thanks again for all your help.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3239 times:

Quoting Zoheb (Reply 8):
Thanks again for all your help.

Always a pleasure to help !
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

UPDATE !

I was connecting through CDG T2 earlier today and I checked out EK´s locations as follows:
- Ticket counter is in the middle of 2C just before the exit of the arriving pax
- Check-in was handled at "Check-in 4" which is only a few footsteps from the ticket counter.

-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineCPH757 From Denmark, joined Sep 2005, 684 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 3196 times:

Quoting Zoheb (Reply 5):
So, how long is the walk from 2F to 2C?

10 minutes or so...nothing special  Smile

And to support the others, you can easily connect within T2 in 3 hours. Done it in 50 minutes myself twice, both times had to exit and re-enter through security...



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User currently offlineZoheb From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3187 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 10):
I checked out EK´s locations

Thanks, how strict are AF with luggage restrictions


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Quoting Zoheb (Reply 12):
Thanks, how strict are AF with luggage restrictions

I flew Trans-Atlantic in C-Class, so there was a lot of allowance for me ...  Wink

However, while checking in at HAJ the other day I overheard a conversation between the counter agent and the father of a family of four (Asians, but I can´t state their destination), wo had to pay 225 Euros for overweight luggage (or he could remove some stuff from his to-be-checked) luggage.
Based on this, I am inclined to say that it would be wise to keep an eye on weight when packing ...
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
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