DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1321 times:
are you in Upper Class, Premium Economy, or Steerage? There is a world of difference from the back to the front of the plane.
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DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1300 times:
Check out http://www.v-flyer.com for some info. I have not been in Steerage but I would expect it to be like most other offerings out there. Getting an exit row will cost you extra. You get a little amenity kit, dinner, breakfast, and drink service. Check out that V-Flyer site and see what planes normally fly that route. If you get one with the V:Port IFE you can keep yourself entertained the entire flight. The others are ok but not nearly as extensive as V:Port.
"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
FlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1350 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1264 times:
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I enjoy flying with VS personally, but as I have found, people either like it or they hate it. It goes on how you like to travel, VS have a certain attitude to themselves.
My trip report recently may help you further: VS027 / VS016 LGW-MCO (by FlyKev Feb 28 2006 in Trip Reports)#ID72884
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BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
The vflyer site is strictly for the pro Virgin crowd and you will rarely find any criticism about the airline from the fans on their own site!
If truth were told, my flights on VS were among the worst that I have ever experienced. I was annoyed by the cabin crew's attempts (on both flights) to be comedians and poke fun at passengers and at safety regulations. Whilst this might be acceptable if the service was good, the service was anything but good. The cabin crew all came across as amateurs, fresh out of training college and bottom of the class too, and I dreaded to think how they would react in any emergency.
I am only 5' 10" and found the seat pitch unbearably uncomfortable. I was assured that the pitch was the same on BA, and even more restricted on some charter airlines, but I could only get comfortable by sitting bolt upright and still. The IFE box under the seat in front would not allow me to slip my legs under, and the seat barely reclined, so I was in agony after an hour or so, and there were another 9-10 hours before landing!
Selection of drinks was limited - IIRC there was only Virgin's own brand in some spirits and all mixers, and only one branded beer. Water is served in the smallest cups (eggcups?) I have seen, and constant requests to the flight attendant for a refill or a small bottle of water or soda can were ignored.
There was a mix up with the meal service as a result of which only vegetarian meals were left by the time our row was served. The vegetarian meal smelt awful and was very inedible - just one taste was enough to put me off.
Whilst the IFE was good, and many passengers were obviously impressed by it, I found the constant plugging of Virgin products and services most irritating. Fed up, I picked up the in-flight magazine and it seemed every second page was hype about the airline or some other part of the Virgin Empire! By this time, all I wanted to do was get off and get on a BA plane. Give me professional service and better seat pitch any day over an airline with better IFE and amateurish cabin crews.
MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1245 times:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 8): The vflyer site is strictly for the pro Virgin crowd and you will rarely find any criticism about the airline from the fans on their own site!
I never said this site was unbiased. I made the suggestion just so he could see what he would be getting plane-wise, seat-wise, etc.
Quoting BCAL (Reply 8): The cabin crew all came across as amateurs, fresh out of training college and bottom of the class too
Part of the problem with hiring for sexy looks.
Quoting BCAL (Reply 8): Selection of drinks was limited - IIRC there was only Virgin's own brand
You expect them to serve Coke or Pepsi despite them being competitors?
"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
BAflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1228 times:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 8): If truth were told, my flights on VS were among the worst that I have ever experienced
Same here. I also agree with everything else in your post.
I've made 6 return trips on VS and the IFE worked less than half the time, 1 flight delayed 1.5hrs and another 2.5hrs - it's just a load of advertising hype with no substance to back it up.
I gave up with Virgin in 2001 when they downgraded me from Y+ to Y. I've been BA silver ever since and haven't had cause to complain in 30 return trips. (A 40min delay on one flight is the worst I can think of)
Sorry Mxp for this negative view but it is just my personal experience. I really hope you are lucky and get a good crew and working IFE and enjoy your flight.
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BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1207 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9): Part of the problem with hiring for sexy looks
Give me a Nanny McPhee who knows her job, rather than some sexy bimbo who cannot even think for herself let alone the passengers, any day.
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9): You expect them to serve Coke or Pepsi despite them being competitors?
The trouble with Virgin Cola is that it is the cheapest and most-foul tasting cola beverage on the market, disguised under the 'Virgin' brand so they can charge an inflated price. As for Virgin Vodka, again this is the cheapest brand available imported from some crooked former USSR market where even the locals will not touch it, and 'Virgin' branded to justify the inflated price. Small wonder with these rip offs, the normally higher fares on VS, and the fact that the cabin crew are poorly paid when compared with other British airlines, that Branson is laughing all the way to the bank.
MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
Jetstreamer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
In fact, v-flyer carries a very balanced view of Virgin Atlantic. There are criticisms as well as favourable comments. Being a fan of an airline does not make you oblivious to any shortfalls.
At least on v-flyer all topics are clearly, factually and honestly discussed in an adult manner.
So, Alberto if you really want to find out what to expect on your forthcoming flights with VS you know where to look.........
Just don't try looking for a similar site for BA because not surprisingly it doesn't exist
Aerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1515 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1039 times:
Alberto
When are you travelling? I have only travelled in VS's economy twice- several years ago. From my recollection - It is better than US carriers and other european carriers economy but at the end of the day it is still economy.
What i do seem to recall was the mess on the aircraft at the end of the flight. It was like pigs were on board.
Experimental From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1030 times:
I have only ever been with Virgin Atlantic in Upper Class but in my experience what once was once an enjoyable fun, fresh airline which was all very unique has turned into a pretty awful airline. In comparison with BA everything is worse apart from the looks for the cabin crew. The bed in upper class may have slightly bigger dimensions than club world but it means nothing if it is as uncomfortable as it is.
Everybody is different though, what some people like others hate so I really can't comment about you flight although they sure aren't what they used to be.
Aerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1515 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1013 times:
Experimental
Are you kidding me?!?!?!? you are what not even 16. Dude wait until you have a couple more years under your belt before making such dogmatic statements
Are you kidding me?!?!?!? you are what not even 16. Dude wait until you have a couple more years under your belt before making such dogmatic statements
Because he's under 16, he doesn't know what comfortable and nice is? A lot of people, myself included, agree completely.
Aerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1515 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 992 times:
I was going to give you a lecture on the inanity of infants making dogmatic statements, but then why bother? We are all allowed the freedom to say what we like. If you think that a 15 year old child has the wherewithal to make such judgements - good for you it is your right. I will continue to hold to the opposite point of view and say that a 15 year old child is not seasoned enough to make such statements
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