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Which Alliance Around The World?  
User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

Hello!

I´m planing to do a trip around the world.
What alliance would you recommend?
I tend to prefer Star since they have the most developed route structure and I´m going to start in Frankfurt...

Perhaps you guys can tell me about advantages and disadvantages of the alliances.

Any comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance

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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

The Alliance to choose really depends on the areas you would like to touch in your RTW. Any thoughts yet ?
I assume, you already have downloaded the RTW-planning tools available on the respective Alliance´s website ?!


Personally I would prefer *A, too, although they still have some blind spots on the map.
For routing, the saying goes: "East is least, West is best", meaning: Fly westbound and you will have less effects on your body (however, in case you fly C-Class the negative effects on eastbound, red-eye flights should be significantly lower than in Y).
-HT



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User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3170 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

I would shop around a bity before buying the ticket out of FRA. If you begin in Denmark or parts of the FSU, the fares are significantly lower, especially in C. I like star, as you can backtrack within a region, so long as you don't have more than one stopover in the same city (though mutliple connections are allowed).

So, for example, you can fly FRA-JFK-LAX-IAD-SFO-NRT...... (even though you are backtracking). You can even fly FRA-JFK-LAX-OGG-SFO-HNL-NRT....



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User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

I´ve been to the US a lot of times and have alraedy seen a lot of places there. So I´d like to go via South America and then touch the US at the west coast to cross the pacific. Other priorities would be on south east Asia.

I´ve already got the planner of Star and did some calculations...there are some white spots on their map though....


User currently offlineDeltaGuy767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 663 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Even though Star seems to be the more world renowned Alliance when it comes to global travel, here's an example of a SkyTeam plan starting at JFK.

JFK-CDG (DL/AF) EWR (CO)
CDG-ICN (AF/KE)
ICN-NRT (NW?/KE)
NRT-LAX (NW)
LAX-NYC (NW/DL/CO) (NW via DTW/MSP)

You could also go from JFK/EWR to Prague,then backtrack to CDG to go on CSA.

From BDL,  wave 
DeltaGuy767



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4462 times:

Quoting Hirnie (Reply 3):
So I´d like to go via South America and then touch the US at the west coast to cross the pacific.

I once was considering a (westbound) RTW on *A through CCS (using TP LIS-CCS), but then found it extremely difficult to get out of that spot again ...
-HT



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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Here's an itinerary for Star:

SA FRA-CPT
SA CPT-JNB
SA JNB-GRU
VG GRU-RIO
VG RIO-EZE
VG EZE-GRU
VG GRU-SSA
VG SSA-GRU
UA GRU-ORD
UA ORD-NRT
NH NRT-HKG
UA HKG-SGN
TG SGN-BKK
TG BKK-DPS
SQ DPS-SIN
SQ SIN-LHR
LH LHR-FRA



The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4442 times:

Thanks for that itinerary CXA. Looks interesting in both, destinations and airlines. But will it work out? As far as I know only a max of 15 destinations is allowed at star. If more are allowed that would be nice though.

HT, I tought about Caracas as well, but I had the same problem: getting away from this spot....

Regards


User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4408 times:

Several of the flights on mine connect......


The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineSpottingpete93 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4347 times:

I did RTW with Star Alliance in 2004 routing as follows:
LH AB6 LHR-FRA
SQ 744 FRA-SIN
SQ 772 SIN-KUL
TG 333 KUL-BKK (HS-TEL in Star Alliance colours funnily enough!)
TG 772 BKK-HKG
SQ 772/744 HKG via SIN to SYD
NZ 320 SYD-AKL
NZ 744 AKL-SFO
UA 735 SFO-YVR
UA 320 YVR-ORD
AC 320 ORD-YYZ
UA CR2/CR2 YYZ via IAD to JFK
RG M11 JFK-GRU
RG 738 GRU-GIG
RG 733/M11 GIG via GRU to LHR


User currently onlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

You could try OneWorld from FRA:

QF FRA-SIN
CX SIN-HKG
CX HKG-NRT
AA NRT-LAX
LA LAX-LIM
IB LIM-MAD
EI MAD-DUB
BA DUB-LHR
BA LHR-HEL
AY HEL-FRA

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

It depends what World area you can prefer.

In South America (within and to/from) the best alliance in coverage is OneWorld, in Asia Star Alliance has leadership (Asiana, Singapore, Thai, ANA) Over the North Atlantic and inside US and Mexico (NW, DL, CO, AM) SkyTeam has a great network.

Anyway, this subject is very personal. Everyone to his own taste.



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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 4285 times:

If you want to focus on South America then give OW a go. LA has a good network down there with flights to Easter Island!

Then take your pick from CX, QF and BA for the longhauls. I think on average OW has the best airlines for it's size, but then that is my opinion.



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User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 4278 times:
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I'd pick, Star Alliance because it has the best coverage plus you have lots of options starting off with LH. Also, NZ has a really good network within the pacific islands which might be worth having a look at. Also, star have the 2 only airlines in the world to offer true round the world service, NZ and SQ. Europe has heaps of *A carriers, so if you did not want to fly from europe to another continent on LH there are better airlines to choose from like NZ, ANA and SK. Also, there is good product offerings in Star. The best airlines in Star for each continent to me would be :
SQ-Asia
NZ-Oceania
SA-Africa
RG-South America
UA-North America
Swiss-Europe
Good variety of airlines to choose different route sturctures from.


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 13):
Star Alliance because it has the best coverage

Again you can't generalize.

It depends what countries and routes you wish to travel. Here you're an example:

I would like making someday a RTW trip like that:
MAD-LHR-DXB-HKG-JKT-PER /surface/ SYD-CHC /surface/ AKL-SCL-BOG-MAD.
This journey is just available with the Oneworld's network.

A small variation with Star Alliance could be: MAD-BKK/surface/ KUL-SIN-PER-AKL (or PER /surface/ SYD-CHC /surface/ AKL) AKL-LAX (or SFO) California-MAD. If you wish to visit New Zealand and South America in the same RTW a stop in North America is mandatory on the Star network ...unlike Oneworld.



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User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

Thanks for all the replies.

I think I have to make up my mind between Oneworld and Star...


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4232 times:

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 14):
If you wish to visit New Zealand and South America in the same RTW a stop in North America is mandatory on the Star network

"mandatory" (*A) means "there is no non-stop flight from New Zealand to South America", but not "it is in the rule book to make a stop in North America" ...
HT



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