Sponsor Message:
Travel Polls & Prefs Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Air France Business Class  
User currently offlineRichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5693 times:

Hi

A few months a go someone told me that AF post their business class menus on there website. I have tried to find these but have been unable. Does any one know where?

Also whats the new business class like?

Thanks for any help

Rich

8 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineB777A340Fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

I was trying to find it too, but couldn't either. L'Espace Affaires is pretty good. It's better than AA or DL, but nowhere near CX or SQ. Hope it helps.

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5448 times:

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 1):
L'Espace Affaires is pretty good. It's better than (..) or DL

That hardly concurrs with my own experience (see Crossing The Atlantic In Business Class: DL Vs. AF (by HT Dec 20 2005 in Trip Reports) )
and I have specifically chosen DL´s B/E over AF for the next trip to AT ( Crossing The Atlantic Ocean DL B/E > ATL - 2nd Try (by HT Mar 24 2006 in Trip Reports) ).

No idea about menu lists on web.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 1):
L'Espace Affaires is pretty good. It's better than AA or DL,

Not necessarily. I end up averaging at least one transatlantic RT on AF/DL and I've decided I'd rather fly DL in BizE than AF's Affaires.

For seat comfort and overall cabin I would rate them as:

1. DL 777
2. AF NEV
3. DL 763
4. AF Old Espace

However, where I think DL really wins is the food service. AF's food might be a little better in quality, but you don't get the much wider selection that Delta has.

And I just don't understand why AF's meals are served in trays!


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5409 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 3):
I've decided I'd rather fly DL in BizE than AF's Affaires.

Amen to that !

Furthermore, I very much prefer the personal touch that DL´s B/E-staffs gives to pax over AF; even KL used*) to be better.
*) "used" as experince was a while ago.

Unfortunately, it´s CDG T2 that puts in some bitter taste into an otherwise very (!) well experience on DL´s B/E, but for me it´s a bit difficult to fly through other hubs for continuation on DL to the U.S.:
KL-feed to AMS is the second best option, though currently the early morning flight out of HAJ leaves at 0605h grrr!
LH-feed into FRA, STR or MUC: No e-ticket possible, no through-checkin possible (as I´ve been told) and change of Terminals (at FRA & MUC) which makes it less desirable for business travel, though company-rates we get are pretty good (my employer gets much better rates on SkyTeam longhaul Business class than on StarAlliance).

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 3):
1. DL 777

The seats really give you a lot of space (seat pitch & aisle width) with their 6-abreast seating !
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 5401 times:

Here is a report that I wrote on AF C:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/61054/


User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5393 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 4):
Furthermore, I very much prefer the personal touch that DL´s B/E-staffs gives to pax over AF; even KL used*) to be better.
*) "used" as experince was a while ago.

I agree. To be fair though, the AF crew are usually pretty good too. They just have a different - French? - approach. A little standoffish, like they're pitying the rest of us for not being French.  Wink All part of the experience.

The best combination will be crew with AF looks and DL demeanor; DL seats with AF IFE; DL food (and service - I HATE the damn trays!) with AF's wines (though Delta's aren't too bad).

Quoting HT (Reply 4):
Unfortunately, it´s CDG T2 that puts in some bitter taste into an otherwise very (!) well experience on DL´s B/E, but for me it´s a bit difficult to fly through other hubs for continuation on DL to the U.S.:

You mean 2E, right? Or all of the halls?
And yeah, it's the number of flights with varying departure times out of CDG that make AF/DL very attractive in that regard.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 6):
You mean 2E, right? Or all of the halls?

While it is okay with me, that T2E is being used while construction is going on (the AF lounge and also the area around the gates basically are in okay shape), it is mainly the poor performance that takes place on the apron that I have my problems with.
I've stated it before (in other threads), that I don't like in which style (premium paying) B/E-pax are being bussed between a/c and terminal v/v, while being yelled at (not "asked") to move even closer together, just as a result that not enough buses are employed to shuttle pax back and forth.
I'm not sure, who is to blame for this: Either the airline(s) or ground handling, but as I am a customer of the airline and so it is also the airline who will "feel" my personal response.

CDG T1 may not be the nicest place and may also have some other negative aspects, but sofar ops ran smoother over there for me than in T2.

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 6):
AF's wines (though Delta's aren't too bad)

Sofar I cannot complain about Red wine and Champagne offered by DL, but especially with Red wine it comes down to one's personal preference.
That Shiraz from Oz I had was a good companion to the Tenderloin of Beef, which was preceeded by some sips of Champagne Lallier (while it was "Lallier only" on my redeye flight of which about one bottle consumed left no hangover but attributed to a good night rest Big grin )

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 6):
And yeah, it's the number of flights with varying departure times out of CDG that make AF/DL very attractive in that regard.

Indeed. Especially if one has to set off from home (HAJ) for week full of business meetings in Atlanta already Sunday morning.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineFly707 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5298 times:

I flew Air France First class twice & they have good service.


Without mistakes we will never learn
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
KLM V Air France Business Class posted Fri Jul 7 2006 20:30:11 by James768
Air France Business Class posted Wed May 3 2006 13:38:53 by Richcandy
Korean Air's New Business Class Or Asiana's posted Wed Sep 13 2006 20:14:51 by KE086
How Is Air India's Business Class On LAX-FRA-BOM? posted Mon Oct 11 2004 08:13:04 by Mfamguy79
Eva Air Super Business Class posted Sat Jun 14 2003 20:40:20 by Monarch
Air France A340 Business Class posted Tue Dec 11 2001 16:44:58 by Eal401
Air France Y-class posted Tue Mar 14 2006 04:54:18 by NWA757boy
Air France - What To Expect In C Class? posted Wed Mar 1 2006 21:28:40 by Mptpa
Air France Or KLM In Business? posted Thu Sep 29 2005 19:41:10 by JMJAirways
Gulf Air Business Class posted Tue Sep 27 2005 19:32:43 by Paul