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Worst Economy Class Seats Ever  
User currently offlineSkyHigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 17396 times:

Hey all,

I was looking through some photos and spotted these economy class seats:

http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00146155

Those look miserable, especially on a long haul flight... I think the seats on the greyhound to NYC are more comfortable than those. They barely have a place to rest your head. Does anyone else know of any truly atrocious airline seats? Honestly, I may be exaggerating but if I stepped on that plane for a flight I would do a 180 and walk right back off.  

[Edited 2006-05-13 10:07:56]


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User currently offlineComeAndGo From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1041 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 17390 times:

How about no seat at all ? I've seen taxi aircraft in Central America where you sit on bags of coffee. Seat belts ? Not seat belts here. No chair either.

Of course it was a case of being stuck in the middle of nowhere and no other way out except this plane or a two day mule ride.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12209 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 17359 times:
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Yikes, they look like the seats from the Intercity/Newmans buses that New Zealand has, and the seats from a ferry that is now based in AKL

User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 17351 times:

Try these between FRA and LAX  yell 


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 17330 times:

Isn't there some Chinese airline that overbooks its flights and ends up seating some passengers in deckchairs in the aisle? That's got to be pretty bad...!

User currently offlineIMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 17330 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):
Try these between FRA and LAX

Got you soundly beaten man:


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Try that FRA- YVR and back!!!

IM


User currently offlineLordHowe From Finland, joined Jan 2003, 728 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 17234 times:


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Here we go - HEL-BKK - just sit back and relax?

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User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 16866 times:

Finnair and Emirates are the only scheduled airlines I know that fly longhaul aircraft with an extra seat per row.

Emirates flies the 777 in a 3-4-3 configuration (everyone else is 2-5-2 or 3-3-3).

Finnair flies the MD-11 in 3-4-3 configuration, but this is only in the aft cabin.

Lufthansa and Thai have A300s with an extra seat per row, but these fly only in short-haul markets.


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 16735 times:

The worst economy seat that I ever experienced?


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As the photographer says in his narrative, leg room looks tight. It is, and it is made worse by the IFE box that is located under the seat in front of you so that you cannot strectch your legs out comfortably. I started feeling uncomfortable within an hour, and there were another 10 hours to go before landing at LHR!



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User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1093 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 16720 times:

I do not understand those loads of LH basher. KLM and BA has 1 inch less legroom compared to LH. So shall we say KLM (without PTV) is the worst?


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 16689 times:

Quoting IMatAMS (Reply 5):
Try that FRA- YVR and back!!!

If you think those are bad, try one of LH´s 747s (or most 747s for that matter) or KL´s 767 on the YVR runs. LH´s A340s are for the most part very comfortable in Y class, at least in my opinion.



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User currently offlineWaukewan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 16686 times:

My worst experience was when i was young flying a MD-88 maybe? Anyway, i go all excited because the seat i had was a window seat but it ended up to be in the last row of seats which didnt have a window at all  Sad

User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 16678 times:

Heh...got everybody beat. Try this:

http://photos.airliners.net/photos/photos/2/0/8/0117802.jpg

Seat 7C on N194AT...BWI-SNN-FRA-ADA last July 10/11. Config is 3-4-3; interior still TWA-configured for 2-5-2 (difficult to reach overhead bins and bins only on the sides).

Since 194AT was in her last days, the interior hadn't been updated in several years. My seat cushion was so worn out, by an hour into the flight, all I could feel was the metal seat frame pushing into my legs. Seatback was somewhat broke, such that when I leaned back, it would recline over time without pushing the button.

Still a bittersweet flight, though. While I should never say 'never', I'm sure I will never again fly on a beautiful full-body L1011-100.  Smile


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2432 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 16673 times:

Quoting Musapapaya (Reply 9):
So shall we say KLM (without PTV) is the worst?

I can testify to that!!! I flew with KLM AMS-SIN-SYD and back in 1999/2000, and even though I was only 12 at that time, I thought that the room was tight. No ptvs (okay it was 6 years ago) but NO big screen in the center either. Only small 14" screens above the aisles. Worst long haul experience ever! And if that wasn't enough, our flight was delayed with a couple of hours on the way to SYD


User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 16653 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):
Try these between FRA and LAX



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agreed 110% I will never fly LH long haul again, YYZ-FRA on a LH B744 was the most uncomfortable flight Ive ever had.


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 16637 times:

Quoting Mats (Reply 7):
Finnair and Emirates are the only scheduled airlines I know that fly longhaul aircraft with an extra seat per row.

Emirates flies the 777 in a 3-4-3 configuration (everyone else is 2-5-2 or 3-3-3).

Finnair flies the MD-11 in 3-4-3 configuration, but this is only in the aft cabin.

Lufthansa and Thai have A300s with an extra seat per row, but these fly only in short-haul markets.

After AY's good (often great) short haul flight in Europe, their long haul product is a dissapointment... perhaps the new wide bodies change the picture.


User currently offlineSkyHigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 16602 times:

Honestly for me, one of the best long-haul seats I have had is on Economy Plus in United. I even remember in Jan of this year flying from ASU-DCA all on AA arriving to DCA in the morning. That night I had to go to Dulles airport to catch my United flight to MCO because I had to work in Orlando for that week. When I sat down on the United flight later that same night, I could definately feel the difference from the United seats compared to AA's seats. United's seats, to me, felt a lot larger and had more lumbar support, as well as more comfortable headrests and a larger seat in general. My worst personal seat experience was flying MIA-LIM on AA's A300....those seats were like sitting on a bench for 6 hours.


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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 16590 times:

Some Air Canada Airbus 319, 320 or 321s (can't remember exactly which right now), have these bright green seats that are simply rigid! Even for a short flight YWG - YYZ it is terrible. No problem with the older green/gray seats Air Canada uses.



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 16515 times:

Quoting Mats (Reply 7):
Lufthansa and Thai have A300s with an extra seat per row, but these fly only in short-haul markets.

No they don't...


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Quoting Mats (Reply 7):
Finnair flies the MD-11 in 3-4-3 configuration, but this is only in the aft cabin.

I've never understood that... how can they have two different economy products on one plane? Does one Y section have better (as well as wider) seats than the other?


User currently offlineLobster From Germany, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 16366 times:

By far the WORST seat I've ever had was a KLM 744M. I was sitting in the front small section of econ. I was more comfortable on a CRJ than that thing. The seats were pitched at a weird angle, no legroom, and something else just seemed odd. I'll never fly that bird again.

User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 16304 times:

The worst economy class ever. I was lucky enough to travel on a few near empty flights but even still the legroom and width of seat were extremely uncomfortable and passengers get ratty and irritated. Not the nicest flying experience.

After 8 flights I had to demand my company to transfer me to BA or SV or I wouldn't travel to Europe. It was that bad.

Notice the shoulders overhanging the seats.

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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2634 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 16239 times:

My vote goes for KL B744 and OK A310. Both narrow seats, no legroom, no PTV. OK makes it worse with banning portable CD/DVD players.

User currently offlineTango29 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 16232 times:

the worst for me was 12 hours on a BA 744 from hong kong to LHR, uncomfotable seats, bad food and bad service, never again. i should have come back qantas.


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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 16228 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 20):
Notice the shoulders overhanging the seats.

All the more reason that these seats should be considered for economy class.

http://www.thompsonsolutions.co.uk./ts_economy_cap.html


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 16222 times:

Quoting ComeAndGo (Reply 1):
I've seen taxi aircraft in Central America where you sit on bags of coffee.

May I ask where in Central America ?

My worst experience in coach. CO from SJO/IAH/EWR/LGW and return. Horrible seat, bad food and unfriendly crew.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2432 posts, RR: 24
Reply 25, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16199 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 20):

that's funny, because my dad said the exact same thing to me. A couple of months ago he flew with Swiss to South Africa and back and he said he hated it. He rather wants to fly BA to South Africa or SAA IF it is on the 346, not their 744


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