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Is An Aircraft "He" Or "She"?  
User currently offlineESGG From Sweden, joined Feb 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7398 times:

A short but vital question!
After reading a large number of posts I still don´t know. Both words are used to refer to an ac.
From my point of vue an ac always has some kind of personality (may it be bad, ugly, beautiful, sleek..... you name it), so using "it" when referring to an ac is terrible.

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User currently offlineZruda From Czech Republic, joined May 2006, 784 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7392 times:

In English language it's traditionally "she", as that descended from ship names, which are always she. Maybe it's because only men operated first ships, then a/cs. Anyway, I am a girl and in my language is Boeing, Airbus atd masculinum, so I usually reffer the planes as "he".


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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7391 times:

Its a she.

Adam

The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and hard before posting a message in this forum and make it detailed and a valuable addition to the topic discussed.


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7378 times:

In French they are also referred to as "she". In Turkish we do not have any "he" or "she" or "it". We only have the word "o" which is used for "he" "she" and "it".

Little Turkish lesson then  Smile

Ben: I
Sen: You
O: He, She,It
Biz: We
Siz: You (Plural as in "Vous" in french)
Onlar: They



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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7357 times:

"She" for your aircraft, "He" for anyone elses, and "It" for a target. I think.  biggrin 

"She" is the American English traditional usage, stemming from the incorporation of nautical terminology and custom into aviation operations in the early days of commercial aviation. Pan Am especially comes to mind.


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User currently offlineSEAPlane10 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7351 times:

I guess it really depends on the language -- l'avion (masculine -- he), das Flugzeug (neuter -- it), el avion (masculine -- he)

User currently offlineScoliodon From India, joined Oct 2005, 217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7348 times:

Though "She" seems to be widely used, I think the the 737, 747(sheer masculinity) and the 757 look more masculine than feminine.

On the other hand the 767 and the 777 have a pleasing, graceful look, and seem to be more feminine IMHO.

All airbus planes have a feminine touch(especially the A330-my favorite), except of course the A380, "the Hulk".

 Big grin

[Edited 2006-06-01 08:24:49]


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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9527 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7318 times:

If it wasn't here then it was discussed in the German airliners.de. Whereas in German it is - das Flugzeug - but DIE Maschine, it is also DIE Boeing (fem) DER Airbus (masc) or DIE Fokker.

Airbus happens to be masculine because the Bus is. Put an air in front of the bus and it still is masculine. The ship - das Schiff - is always neut. but the ships name is alwys feminine - Die Hanseatic.

A little thing on the side - in some areas of Germany a woman is referred to in the local lingo as DAS Hilde.

When you know all that, it is quite easy......



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7199 times:

It depends.. it the aircraft is working fine and plowing through the sky like it should.. it's a "he"..

If it is broken down, stuck, or generally being a pain in the arse.. it's a "she"..

 rotfl  Oh Gosh, Oh Gosh.. I'm just kidding but that was funny to ME!



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7198 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 8):
It depends.. it the aircraft is working fine and plowing through the sky like it should.. it's a "he"..

If it is broken down, stuck, or generally being a pain in the arse.. it's a "she"..

Oh Gosh, Oh Gosh.. I'm just kidding but that was funny to ME!

Oh boy!! Are you ever in the doo doo with the female elements of A.net Big grin

True though Big grin

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineSkyman From Germany, joined May 2006, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7192 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 8):
It depends.. it the aircraft is working fine and plowing through the sky like it should.. it's a "he"..

If it is broken down, stuck, or generally being a pain in the arse.. it's a "she"..

rotfl Oh Gosh, Oh Gosh.. I'm just kidding but that was funny to ME!

 laughing   laughing   laughing 
You old macho. Made me laugh but take no offense ladies it's just a joke.


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7192 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):
In French they are also referred to as "she".

Sorry, I made a mistake. Airplane "l'avion" is masculine in French so a "he".



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4840 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7192 times:

She.

747 queen of the skies

shes a lovely aircraft etc

comes from maritime days.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7166 times:

I thought the 747 was the whale jet? I know if you call an American woman a whale, she is going to kill you. And then cuss you out. And then kill you again.. and she will hit you in your blow-hole.. and win in court! But maybe that's just Americans..  bomb 


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User currently offlineETFokker50 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7146 times:

Well, are we talking about technically or in the "normal language"? Technically, a language will either define an object, such as an airplane, as being of a specific gender. Some languages, such as Turkish and also Finish don't have gender-specific pronouns. Lots of Finish people find it hard and struggle with getting their pronouns right in English, because the Finish language doesn't have them. On the street, or among normal people in a talking situation, ofcourse language does weird things and you never know.

User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4840 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7146 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 13):
I thought the 747 was the whale jet? I know if you call an American woman a whale, she is going to kill you. And then cuss you out. And then kill you again.. and she will hit you in your blow-hole.. and win in court! But maybe that's just Americans..

No the 747 is the Jumbo Jet...
The A380 is known as the large oceangoing mammal...



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User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7102 times:

SHE, no doubt...  wink 



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User currently offline4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7097 times:

In Hebrew it's "He", even though ships are "she".

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7083 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):
In French they are also referred to as "she"

 no 
In French, it's always "HE". "Plane" = "Avion" is masculin.
it's LE or UN Boeing 7xx, LE Concorde , etc ...

The only "feminin" aircraft in French is "Caravelle".
LA Caravelle ...


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3594 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7044 times:

I was going to make a comment about female planes having cockpits, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7001 times:

Although some planes do appear rather masculine, on the whole, I'd say 'she' when referring to an aeroplane.
The Boeing 737 - a 'he' perhaps, but a little 'he'. They're so short and fat - and kind of cute in a weird sort of way.
747 - such a graceful aeroplane, would have to be a she.
If the A380 is a she, it's the most ugly female I have ever encountered :p
I think, in English, notions of gracefulness and elegance, tend to have a feminine overtone. And most of the aeroplanes I see are both - so they're "she". As others have said, it's also descended from the days of ships, which are always she, - and the captain and first officer of an airliner, also from the ships.
The A380 is the ugliest aeroplane since the Armstrong Whitworth Argosy.

On the other hand, my car, named "Tank" is most definitely a he, far too beaten up (from crashes) and too chunky in shape, to be a female.



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User currently offlineAerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6971 times:

I think it depends on the type
747s definitely a she - gracefully pregnant
A3 anything - definitely a he
Except for the A380 - that will have to be an it


User currently offlineFoxDelta From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6956 times:

In Spanish, airplane (avión) is refered to as "HE", but ship (nave) is a "SHE". However, a ship -boat in this case- can also be a "HE" (barco), but aircraft (aeronave) is a "SHE". Please, English speakers correct non-english speakers.
Confused enough!?
So it depends in which word you are using at the time.

Cheers  confused 


User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1559 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6940 times:

Very interesting topic, especially with Raggi ad ERJ170 replies  rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Well, being a french native speaker I'll say "he", and I keep the "he" when I speak english...



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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6923 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):

In French, it's always "HE". "Plane" = "Avion" is masculin.
it's LE or UN Boeing 7xx, LE Concorde , etc ...

Excusez moi monsieur but I corrected myself later  Wink



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25 Post contains images FlySSC : No problem ... I wish just I could also speak Turkish ...
26 ASalo : I heard this explanation a long time ago: In English ships were called "she" as in the old times they used to be unreliable, unpredictable and lovable
27 AI : looking at the shape of all aircrafts in general, i think theres no doubt that it should be a "HE". AI
28 SpeckSpot : Okay, I'm not addressing the correct usage in (any) language -- just personal taste here. When I was learning to spot jets as a kid, 727s, DC9s, and F
29 Broocy : I think all people carrying machines are "she". Seems they are feminine in that they carry you around inside them and are hard working, just like wome
30 Breiz : Correct. But it is linked to the name. "L'avion Caravelle" is masculin, while "La Caravelle" is feminine. Similarly, the helicopter "Alouette" is fem
31 Post contains links YYZYYT : That was my first instinct also, but if you read CVR and ATC transcripts, other aircraft are almost always referred to as "he" A quick search on ASN
32 TWAtwaTWA : Interesting, yet, isn't it possible that what the ATC and pilots are referring to as "he" is the other pilot inside the a/c? Analogy: A male inside a
33 Post contains images HorizonGirl : Given the history, I'd say it's she. I never really use gender pronouns on aircraft. Most of the time, I will just use it. My Dad uses she to refer to
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