ESGG From Sweden, joined Feb 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9256 times:
A short but vital question!
After reading a large number of posts I still don´t know. Both words are used to refer to an ac.
From my point of vue an ac always has some kind of personality (may it be bad, ugly, beautiful, sleek..... you name it), so using "it" when referring to an ac is terrible.
Zruda From Czech Republic, joined May 2006, 784 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9252 times:
In English language it's traditionally "she", as that descended from ship names, which are always she. Maybe it's because only men operated first ships, then a/cs. Anyway, I am a girl and in my language is Boeing, Airbus atd masculinum, so I usually reffer the planes as "he".
BA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9249 times:
Its a she.
The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and hard before posting a message in this forum and make it detailed and a valuable addition to the topic discussed.
Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9216 times:
"She" for your aircraft, "He" for anyone elses, and "It" for a target. I think.
"She" is the American English traditional usage, stemming from the incorporation of nautical terminology and custom into aviation operations in the early days of commercial aviation. Pan Am especially comes to mind.
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PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 10648 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9176 times:
If it wasn't here then it was discussed in the German airliners.de. Whereas in German it is - das Flugzeug - but DIE Maschine, it is also DIE Boeing (fem) DER Airbus (masc) or DIE Fokker.
Airbus happens to be masculine because the Bus is. Put an air in front of the bus and it still is masculine. The ship - das Schiff - is always neut. but the ships name is alwys feminine - Die Hanseatic.
A little thing on the side - in some areas of Germany a woman is referred to in the local lingo as DAS Hilde.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6865 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9024 times:
I thought the 747 was the whale jet? I know if you call an American woman a whale, she is going to kill you. And then cuss you out. And then kill you again.. and she will hit you in your blow-hole.. and win in court! But maybe that's just Americans..
ETFokker50 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9004 times:
Well, are we talking about technically or in the "normal language"? Technically, a language will either define an object, such as an airplane, as being of a specific gender. Some languages, such as Turkish and also Finish don't have gender-specific pronouns. Lots of Finish people find it hard and struggle with getting their pronouns right in English, because the Finish language doesn't have them. On the street, or among normal people in a talking situation, ofcourse language does weird things and you never know.
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 5194 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9004 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 13): I thought the 747 was the whale jet? I know if you call an American woman a whale, she is going to kill you. And then cuss you out. And then kill you again.. and she will hit you in your blow-hole.. and win in court! But maybe that's just Americans..
No the 747 is the Jumbo Jet...
The A380 is known as the large oceangoing mammal...
NZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8859 times:
Although some planes do appear rather masculine, on the whole, I'd say 'she' when referring to an aeroplane.
The Boeing 737 - a 'he' perhaps, but a little 'he'. They're so short and fat - and kind of cute in a weird sort of way.
747 - such a graceful aeroplane, would have to be a she.
If the A380 is a she, it's the most ugly female I have ever encountered :p
I think, in English, notions of gracefulness and elegance, tend to have a feminine overtone. And most of the aeroplanes I see are both - so they're "she". As others have said, it's also descended from the days of ships, which are always she, - and the captain and first officer of an airliner, also from the ships.
The A380 is the ugliest aeroplane since the Armstrong Whitworth Argosy.
On the other hand, my car, named "Tank" is most definitely a he, far too beaten up (from crashes) and too chunky in shape, to be a female.
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FoxDelta From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8814 times:
In Spanish, airplane (avión) is refered to as "HE", but ship (nave) is a "SHE". However, a ship -boat in this case- can also be a "HE" (barco), but aircraft (aeronave) is a "SHE". Please, English speakers correct non-english speakers.
So it depends in which word you are using at the time.