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Does Anyone Like Ryanair At All?  
User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4911 times:

i am not a great fan of Ryanair or their MD's snidey remark Anyone agree or disagree

79 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4900 times:

I've flown with FR. I have no complaints about their service. The planes were clean and comfortable, and for me to say that they are comfortable and me being a lardass, is saying something. I did wonder if they had figured out a way to save money by not pressurizing the cabin as much as others, because I had opened a soft drink on the plane, and it ended up all over me. The drink was not shaken at all. I have not had this happen before, or after that.


Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4894 times:

They are a good airline, I just dont like the way they are ruining BA, my national airline. I have flown both airlines and i am willing to poay more for the superior service and better safety. And i pay more because i expect y pilots to land at the correct airport lol Apprreciate your response though regads T.C.

User currently offlineTia From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4884 times:

No, I don't like FR, but I do like the fact that in two weeks I'm flying BGY-Torp R/T for about 65 euros, everything included. So while I might prefer to fly on another airline, you can't beat Ryanair's fares.

User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4879 times:

Dont get me all wrong i like LCCs I jhust dont like Ryanair because they have stated and make it obvious that they do not like BA and like making life difficult. At least EZY are civil lol

User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4873 times:

Quoting BA787 (Reply 2):
I have flown both airlines and i am willing to poay more for the superior service and better safety.

How are you quantifying "better safety" ? I have never flown FR, and fly BA regularly, but I disagree one is 'safer' than the other. If Ryanair were unsafe they wouldn't be allowed to fly, in my opinion.

Quoting BA787 (Reply 2):
And i pay more because i expect y pilots to land at the correct airport lol

IIRC Wasn't the latest incident an EIRJet flight on behalf of FR ?



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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4865 times:

Quoting BA787 (Thread starter):
Does Anyone Like Ryanair At All?

Pe@rson! Big grin He is a very vocal supporter of Ryanair!



Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4865 times:

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Quoting LHRjc (Reply 5):
IIRC Wasn't the latest incident an EIRJet flight on behalf of FR

Very true My mistake was meant as a joke.

Quoting LHRjc (Reply 5):
How are you quantifying "better safety" ? I have never flown FR, and fly BA regularly, but I disagree one is 'safer' than the other. If Ryanair were unsafe they wouldn't be allowed to fly, in my opinion.

There have been a few stories in some of the British Newspapers eg: Ryanair flight has 3 wing bolts instead of 17 Might be untrue but i ahve read something like this in the past. Might not be accurate but along those lines


User currently offlineAmhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4827 times:

Used to- until they stripped everything down so far it wasnt worth the bother to fly out/into STN. I take BA, BMI, or another national carrier to wherever Im going now. Its just easier to use LHR or LGW as the "savings" for using Ryanair are negated by having to take the train out there. At least I can get some luggage onto the "big" carriers and a humane seating arrangement.

Ive never tried Easyjet- maybe I will this summer intraEurope. Ill be on Sterling in a few weeks, but that one looks fairly ok.



Hang on tightly, Let go lightly
User currently offlineVinnieWinnie From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 772 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4827 times:

They are ok but not an airline you could fall in love with!  Wink

I just hate MOL he is just an arrogant fool. Also don't like Ryanair's spin which is misleading not so say wrong! Look at their argument about fuel surcharges for example: They attack BA about it but indirectly charge passengers as well through higher average fares!


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4802 times:

Finally some people nearly agree with me and Vinnie Winnie is my new best friend lol MOL is a pain in the arse

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6324 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4796 times:

I have flown with FR twice and the first flight was on a 737-200. It was not the most comfortable flight and the crew were not very nice. Once we landed the cabin crew went on and on about how you can book flights, travel insurance, hotels and car hire. I would have preferred the normal, "Ladies and Gentleman you are all very welcome to Dublin, the local time 4.20pm and on behalf and Ryanair and all our crew thank you for flying with us today".
The second flight was on a 737-800 and was much better but the crew were still quite rude and the price was very similar to Aer Lingus.

Quoting VinnieWinnie (Reply 9):
They attack BA about it but indirectly charge passengers as well through higher average fares

Aer Lingus just added a charge on Long-haul routes and FR was saying "fly Ryanair to avoid the rip off charge from Aer Lingus". If I'm correct FR dont fly to DXB and LAX like Aer Lingus does.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineAmhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4796 times:

I dont like all those stupid little hidden fees that seem to change by the month. Makes me feel like im getting screwed over by a shady Irishman who is laughing all the way to the bank :P


Hang on tightly, Let go lightly
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4770 times:

I like the FR livery, i like their cabin interiors.

But, i DO NOT like Mr Michael O'Leary. He is an arrogant person, and does not care for any of the passengers that travel. He will just see them as €/£/$ etc. in his pocket.

Personally if he were to lose everything tomorrow, i would have no sympathy.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4760 times:

i agree

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 13):
Personally if he were to lose everything tomorrow, i would have no sympathy.

and I wish Aer Lingus hadn't left oneworld, but thats another thread


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4742 times:

In short, No, I don't like FR, as mentioned, they'll try anything to squeeze BA, or poke a bit of fun at them, although they aren't the only airline who love to hate BA.

Quoting BA787 (Reply 4):
that they do not like BA and like making life difficult



Quoting BA787 (Reply 2):
I just dont like the way they are ruining BA, my national airline

Another BA supporter, I see we have a lot in common !

Quoting BA787 (Reply 2):
better safety

That's not true, they do have to comply with safety rules as do BA

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 13):
But, i DO NOT like Mr Michael O'Leary. He is an arrogant person

Again, same here, I also don't like Richard Branson, both are pr specialists, and do anything to get publicity (eg- VS wanting to buy Concorde), sometimes at others expense.

Wrighbrothers



Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
User currently offlineCwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4738 times:

I can't stand them! I hate the way they think they rule the European skies and everyone needs to answer to them! They try ridiculing other airlines and airports, which is making people hate them more, and more!

At least other airlines like easyJet, bmiBaby, Jet2, and even those who aren't LCCs, welcome competition, and don't slate it!

They've become too big for their own good, but they're certainly one airline company I will gladly avoid for my entire life!



Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4738 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 15):
better safety

i changed this further downb when i realised my mistake we do have a lot in common see my oneworld, star or skyteam in "polls" cheers tc


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4738 times:

cwl dude is right oonce again tc

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 4715 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 15):
Again, same here, I also don't like Richard Branson, both are pr specialists, and do anything to get publicity (eg- VS wanting to buy Concorde), sometimes at others expense.

Sorry, but i disagree with the Richard Branson comment. IMO there is nothing wrong with him, he is a genuine guy. Fair enough he has an airline in 4 continents.

And, i think he would have liked to keep Concorde flying. He is in a small war with BA, but all of that has settled down and really VS would more than likely have given up on Concorde by now.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 4673 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 19):
And, i think he would have liked to keep Concorde flying.

We will never truly know, but My personally opinion is that it was a publicity stunt, done to get his face on the tele and his name in the papers.
There were too many things against it, he would have needed to convince airbus to continue to make spare parts (which was the main reason why BA retired Concorde), he would have had to have had qualified engineers, flight and cabin crew, new maintenance bays in his hangers, he'd have to repaint them, and re-do the interior.

Next, the fuel cost- well at today's price, it wouldn't have really been profitable, and prices will only rise. The maintenance cost will also have risen, as the planes got older.
Also, he wanted to use Concorde in a 2 class lay out, Concorde wasn't meant for that. Personally, I also think Concorde would had looked ugly in the VS livery.
To conclude:
He knew BA wouldn't let him have Concorde, he would have stolen their passengers. So why not humiliate BA while he gets all the good press ?
Seems like a great idea to me.
BA spent literaly BILLIONS keeping Concorde afloat, how much would he been willing to pay ?

Wrighbrothers



Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 20):
BA spent literaly BILLIONS keeping Concorde afloat, how much would he been willing to pay

i agree especially considering that VS has been billed as almost low cost byt their own pr


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

Well, One thing about Virgin Atlantic is that everyone knows who owns Virgin. How many people know who owns British Airways?

Somehow, if Virgin had gotten a Concorde i think it would very easily pay off.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

The point of view from someone that deals with FR:

There are so many ground to be covered with FR, some I agree with some I dont. But everyone seems to forget 1 fact, Its the passenger who cause their own problems sometimes... Especially when it comes to FR.

You dont pay much, and all you get is a point A to B service, if you want the full works, you have to pay more and fly with an airline that offers you more. The main problem is this is Passengers Assumption. Here is an Example:


Baggage
Now when your checking in a MJV or REU flight, you can almost guarantee your going to collect more than £500's worth of Excess baggage, From who? Passengers traveling in family's, normally a Mum, Dad and 3 young children. Now they turn up at Check in, They stick 1 bag on the belt which weighs up to 30Kg (which is 10Kg) over, You advise the passenger that they are 10Kg over and there will be an Excess charge of £55 and the Mum or the Dad will automatically say "But there are 5 of us".

Please take a moment to read this:
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/faqs....=bag&quest=checkedbaggageallowance

Now after explaining this to the passenger they start to argue their case, But I cant really turn round and say that FR are at Fault, If the passenger in front of me has not taken it upon themselves to check the baggage allowances which i also stated in the email sent to them then its their own fault. Then the common argument is "that they have flown with Thompson's last year and they let us!", But your flying Ryanair, Not Thompson's. You cant just turn up and assume every airline has the same policy.

Now the problem with this is, Because the Passenger would rather spend more time fighting their case and cursing FR or Me then to actually get themselves sorted out, which I am happy to help with , But this hold sup the queue, So the people who are at the back of the que start to complain when they get to the front because they have been waiting more than 45 mins... and then draw the same baggage problem and start to hold people up behind them. And you always hear the same line "Ill never fly Ryanair Again" But the Passenger is at fault? whats to say you get caught out with a different airline because you cant be bothered to read the Terms and conditions.

Customer Service
When people turn round and say "there is no customer Service". Now I cant speak for Ryanair or any other airport apart from LTN, But when there is a flight Delay, Passenger in need of assistance or something there are Always staff around to help.

Late Passengers
This is becoming quite a problem right now,Passengers missing their check-in, They will run over to you and ask if the BGY flight is still open, you will reply to them no its closed now and you will direct them to the ticket desk to arrange a transfer. No not good enough, They scream, they shout, they Beg, They fight their case and they Threat but it clearly states to them on their confirmation "Be at the airport at least 40 mins prior to departure" and they turn up 35 mins or 30 mins until departure. I know it may seem harsh to refuse them travel but so much needs to be dine in those 40 mins that there is just not enough time to recalculate everything for 1 passenger. Things we need to account for and do:

- Passenger Figure's
- Baggage Figures
- Bag To Gate Figures
- Specials
- Infants
- Fuel Loads (taxi fuel / flight fuel)
- Balance and Weight
- Time sheets
- Getting the A/ C boarded
- Time for the Passengers to get from the Check-in to the Gate
- Meeting the arriving aircraft
- A/C security Checks
- A/C cleaning

Its not a simple job and although we do get it done on time 1 passenger could make a lot of Difference in Fuel loads, Baggage, Weight and balance, the TOB and so on.

So ill conclude Ryanair as not a bad airline, you dont pay much to get to A to B, It gets you their in 1 piece and Quick. No I dont agree with all their rules but if your going to fly cheap then stick within them, Nothing is free There is always a small print, so read it.


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

KAZZIE? do u agree that MOL is a complete idiot

25 Wrighbrothers : Nobody solely owns BA, it's the share holders (I believe) Do you watch 'Airline' on ITV ?, it's always great to see the passengers and their problems
26 BA787 : I do and airport and air crash investigation lol i need to get out more.
27 Kazzie : Immature comment, Whilst I dont agree with some of his thinking, I do think that he is a Fantastic and smart Businessman. Which is Focused on Easyjet
28 BA787 : not immature and read my profile KAZZIE
29 Tom12 : What papers do you read? Although i do agree. I don't like FR but the marketing strategy MOL has, although crazy it seems to be working for him.
30 Planesarecool : A complete idiot? I'd say he's more of a genius. He runs an airline which offers cheap fares for the passengers, yet still rakes in the cash - everyo
31 BA787 : Itwas in either the mail or the express
32 Tom12 : Totally Agree
33 Post contains images Humberside : FR fly to HUY. Good enough reason for me to like them
34 Kazzie : yup, not to mention flights always full
35 VinnieWinnie : Thanks for the honour from a fellow future yorkshire inhabitant! Totally agree with you Kazzie! Fantastic Businessman! So succesful that U can't help
36 Shamrock350 : I am not a fan of MOL and some of the things he has said are very irritating such as "British Airways is the fat cats airline" and "Aer Lingus just wa
37 Post contains images Spantax : Well, if Raynair didn't exist yet somebody should invent it!! Cheap fares, new planes, almost always on time, a lot of routes and growing. And, very i
38 Post contains images David L : I've seen a lot of allegations about FR's safety but they never seem to come to much. I don't have any feelings either way about FR. I like BA - as i
39 Prov1 : I know furloughed AA guys that say that place is the worst.
40 David L : In what respect? To work for?
41 Drnate00 : I just flew Ryanair Thursday and Friday, DUB to PSA round trip, the outgoing flight was great, however with an earlier post, I do wonder what they do
42 Ncfc99 : FR does take safety seriously as one incident will kill the company, and MOL knows this and does spend the money on maintenence and new planes, altho
43 Flygaz : Just flown Stansted to Dinard and return with Ryanair for the first time. I use to dislike FR, but after on time departures, easy check in and very fr
44 BA787 : i dont doubt that MOL is a good businessman i just dont like his personality and the way he goes about being a good business man
45 Post contains images LHRjc : I don't think you''re alone there.... Just seen that you only joined a.net this afternoon - welcome - 72 posts in 7 hours, not bad
46 BA787 : i know not that they were very educated posts but oh well
47 DYflyer : I have two problems with FR. First of all if you book early (like they want you to), and get a low price, you risk getting moved to another flight if
48 BA787 : I agree with DYFlyer Unlucky chum cheers tc
49 FlyKev : I just paid £15 for a plane ticket (return to blackpool) in August. Im not going to complain... I even get to fly on a pratically new 737-800! Kev.
50 Post contains links Tommy Mogren : They do have great fares, right ? Read my view on Ryanair here in my blog, 2 flights with reports... http://www.spottersblog.com/jumpseat/106/LCC+-+Lo
51 BA787 : i'd check and make sure all the bolts are in the wing before you get on m8 only jokin theyre fine really just dnt like MOL
52 NZ8800 : Could hardly believe my eyes when I read that. But then, we don't really even have any equivalent to RyanAir in New Zealand, however much Freedomair
53 Kazzie : Airlines change their schedule's or departure times all the time.. And I doubt That He was moved because he paid a cheap fair, It does not work like
54 Post contains images RJ100 : Excellent to hear from people like Kazzie, who are involved with them frequently. I am a passenger from time to time, and I had only good experiences
55 Post contains images BA787 : Much as i dont really like Ryanair, I doubt that they would stoop as low as this. Kazzie is correct. Jetstar are a bit different because they are own
56 BCAL : The problem with FR is that is a very successful airline and people love bashing something successful. The tabloids know this so whenever there is som
57 Post contains images B742 : Personaly I don't mind Ryanair, they offer a poor service, but so they should with the tiny fares that they are offering! But I would still choose to
58 Post contains images JGPH1A : I do I do - I love Michael O'Leary and want to have his baby. Signed James Pe@rson (Mrs.)
59 Post contains images Icarus75 : Are you talking about the airports or the cities? Those cities would be that bad, they wouldn't have so many people visiting!!! is it because you're
60 DYflyer : It was not new departure times. It was to other flights. If the other passengers were moved too the planes flew empty, because the flights went as sc
61 Ryanair737 : I like using Ryanair; they have a varied and interesting route network and also have excellent punctuality. There are certain things I don't like abou
62 Asturias : No, I don't like Ryanair at all. I choose not to fly them. I'm sure they'd get me between place A and place B without much problem, but I'm fine with
63 Christeljs : When I flew from London to Norway in March, believe it or not. BA & SAS's fares were cheaper than FR, they also fly you to a desent airport, and BA g
64 Post contains images JetBlueAUS : Reading posts from different people, I get the casual idea that on Ryanair what you pay was what you get.
65 1stfl94 : Ryanair is a bit like Ikea really, everytime I use it something makes me think never again (stewardess giggling during the safety announcement, pilot
66 Sbworcs : I am sure that had more to do with the fact that FR flys a lot of routes within the UK and the press thought UK travellers would like to know about t
67 Kazzie : So If BA or SQ hit some turbulence or have a hard landing you'll be put off flying them?
68 Christeljs : I have heard and seen this happening with FR. I had a landing in Norway once, and we hit the ground so hard it hurt, not to mention the breaking on t
69 Post contains images Kazzie : I Had a hard landing on Bmi once, so hard the cockpit door came open, and weather was perfect, I wont fly them again, for that reason...
70 1stfl94 : When combined with terrible cabin crew, a delay on one of the smallest airports in Europe and having adverts blared through the speakers all the way
71 Post contains images Kazzie : Maybe so, But you can combined the Flying to the Actual airline Service... FR makes their decisions with the adverts, CC training, Destinations.. But
72 ACDC8 : I`ve flown on FR several times, I`ve never had a problem with them. Their fares cannot be beat, never had a problem with any staff and have been very
73 BA787 : Sorry i didn't reply sooner. Been banned fro 2 weeks..erm... I think VS are a good airline and much as I love BA i think they were to blame fro the V
74 ACDC8 : Tom, I agree, MOL is not one of my favourtie persons around, but he gets the job done, and thats the bottom line. I honestly don´t understand why so
75 BA787 : He is a great business man. I have thought about this a lot during my period away from A.net to the point where I am beginning to regret opening this
76 ACDC8 : Thats the world of business, thats how it works.
77 Post contains images BA787 : Yep I'm an idealist though Why can't everyone get along? Life would be boring thats why! Tom
78 Post contains images Christeljs : It's clinically proven they are not
79 BA787 : Aye and I have had bad experiences. I don't like thembut they must be doing something right with all those profits. Tom
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