Go3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3269 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5829 times:
I've flown with FR. I have no complaints about their service. The planes were clean and comfortable, and for me to say that they are comfortable and me being a lardass, is saying something. I did wonder if they had figured out a way to save money by not pressurizing the cabin as much as others, because I had opened a soft drink on the plane, and it ended up all over me. The drink was not shaken at all. I have not had this happen before, or after that.
BA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5823 times:
They are a good airline, I just dont like the way they are ruining BA, my national airline. I have flown both airlines and i am willing to poay more for the superior service and better safety. And i pay more because i expect y pilots to land at the correct airport lol Apprreciate your response though regads T.C.
Tia From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 551 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5813 times:
No, I don't like FR, but I do like the fact that in two weeks I'm flying BGY-Torp R/T for about 65 euros, everything included. So while I might prefer to fly on another airline, you can't beat Ryanair's fares.
LHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5802 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 2): I have flown both airlines and i am willing to poay more for the superior service and better safety.
How are you quantifying "better safety" ? I have never flown FR, and fly BA regularly, but I disagree one is 'safer' than the other. If Ryanair were unsafe they wouldn't be allowed to fly, in my opinion.
Quoting BA787 (Reply 2): And i pay more because i expect y pilots to land at the correct airport lol
IIRC Wasn't the latest incident an EIRJet flight on behalf of FR ?
"Our 319's are very reliable. They get fixed very quickly."
BA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5794 times:
Quoting LHRjc (Reply 5): IIRC Wasn't the latest incident an EIRJet flight on behalf of FR
Very true My mistake was meant as a joke.
Quoting LHRjc (Reply 5): How are you quantifying "better safety" ? I have never flown FR, and fly BA regularly, but I disagree one is 'safer' than the other. If Ryanair were unsafe they wouldn't be allowed to fly, in my opinion.
There have been a few stories in some of the British Newspapers eg: Ryanair flight has 3 wing bolts instead of 17 Might be untrue but i ahve read something like this in the past. Might not be accurate but along those lines
Amhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5756 times:
Used to- until they stripped everything down so far it wasnt worth the bother to fly out/into STN. I take BA, BMI, or another national carrier to wherever Im going now. Its just easier to use LHR or LGW as the "savings" for using Ryanair are negated by having to take the train out there. At least I can get some luggage onto the "big" carriers and a humane seating arrangement.
Ive never tried Easyjet- maybe I will this summer intraEurope. Ill be on Sterling in a few weeks, but that one looks fairly ok.
VinnieWinnie From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 846 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5756 times:
They are ok but not an airline you could fall in love with!
I just hate MOL he is just an arrogant fool. Also don't like Ryanair's spin which is misleading not so say wrong! Look at their argument about fuel surcharges for example: They attack BA about it but indirectly charge passengers as well through higher average fares!
Shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6581 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5725 times:
I have flown with FR twice and the first flight was on a 737-200. It was not the most comfortable flight and the crew were not very nice. Once we landed the cabin crew went on and on about how you can book flights, travel insurance, hotels and car hire. I would have preferred the normal, "Ladies and Gentleman you are all very welcome to Dublin, the local time 4.20pm and on behalf and Ryanair and all our crew thank you for flying with us today".
The second flight was on a 737-800 and was much better but the crew were still quite rude and the price was very similar to Aer Lingus.
Quoting VinnieWinnie (Reply 9): They attack BA about it but indirectly charge passengers as well through higher average fares
Aer Lingus just added a charge on Long-haul routes and FR was saying "fly Ryanair to avoid the rip off charge from Aer Lingus". If I'm correct FR dont fly to DXB and LAX like Aer Lingus does.
Cwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5667 times:
I can't stand them! I hate the way they think they rule the European skies and everyone needs to answer to them! They try ridiculing other airlines and airports, which is making people hate them more, and more!
At least other airlines like easyJet, bmiBaby, Jet2, and even those who aren't LCCs, welcome competition, and don't slate it!
They've become too big for their own good, but they're certainly one airline company I will gladly avoid for my entire life!
Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
Dogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5644 times:
Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 15): Again, same here, I also don't like Richard Branson, both are pr specialists, and do anything to get publicity (eg- VS wanting to buy Concorde), sometimes at others expense.
Sorry, but i disagree with the Richard Branson comment. IMO there is nothing wrong with him, he is a genuine guy. Fair enough he has an airline in 4 continents.
And, i think he would have liked to keep Concorde flying. He is in a small war with BA, but all of that has settled down and really VS would more than likely have given up on Concorde by now.
We will never truly know, but My personally opinion is that it was a publicity stunt, done to get his face on the tele and his name in the papers.
There were too many things against it, he would have needed to convince airbus to continue to make spare parts (which was the main reason why BA retired Concorde), he would have had to have had qualified engineers, flight and cabin crew, new maintenance bays in his hangers, he'd have to repaint them, and re-do the interior.
Next, the fuel cost- well at today's price, it wouldn't have really been profitable, and prices will only rise. The maintenance cost will also have risen, as the planes got older.
Also, he wanted to use Concorde in a 2 class lay out, Concorde wasn't meant for that. Personally, I also think Concorde would had looked ugly in the VS livery.
He knew BA wouldn't let him have Concorde, he would have stolen their passengers. So why not humiliate BA while he gets all the good press ?
Seems like a great idea to me.
BA spent literaly BILLIONS keeping Concorde afloat, how much would he been willing to pay ?
Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
Kazzie From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 1684 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5559 times:
The point of view from someone that deals with FR:
There are so many ground to be covered with FR, some I agree with some I dont. But everyone seems to forget 1 fact, Its the passenger who cause their own problems sometimes... Especially when it comes to FR.
You dont pay much, and all you get is a point A to B service, if you want the full works, you have to pay more and fly with an airline that offers you more. The main problem is this is Passengers Assumption. Here is an Example:
Now when your checking in a MJV or REU flight, you can almost guarantee your going to collect more than £500's worth of Excess baggage, From who? Passengers traveling in family's, normally a Mum, Dad and 3 young children. Now they turn up at Check in, They stick 1 bag on the belt which weighs up to 30Kg (which is 10Kg) over, You advise the passenger that they are 10Kg over and there will be an Excess charge of £55 and the Mum or the Dad will automatically say "But there are 5 of us".
Now after explaining this to the passenger they start to argue their case, But I cant really turn round and say that FR are at Fault, If the passenger in front of me has not taken it upon themselves to check the baggage allowances which i also stated in the email sent to them then its their own fault. Then the common argument is "that they have flown with Thompson's last year and they let us!", But your flying Ryanair, Not Thompson's. You cant just turn up and assume every airline has the same policy.
Now the problem with this is, Because the Passenger would rather spend more time fighting their case and cursing FR or Me then to actually get themselves sorted out, which I am happy to help with , But this hold sup the queue, So the people who are at the back of the que start to complain when they get to the front because they have been waiting more than 45 mins... and then draw the same baggage problem and start to hold people up behind them. And you always hear the same line "Ill never fly Ryanair Again" But the Passenger is at fault? whats to say you get caught out with a different airline because you cant be bothered to read the Terms and conditions.
When people turn round and say "there is no customer Service". Now I cant speak for Ryanair or any other airport apart from LTN, But when there is a flight Delay, Passenger in need of assistance or something there are Always staff around to help.
This is becoming quite a problem right now,Passengers missing their check-in, They will run over to you and ask if the BGY flight is still open, you will reply to them no its closed now and you will direct them to the ticket desk to arrange a transfer. No not good enough, They scream, they shout, they Beg, They fight their case and they Threat but it clearly states to them on their confirmation "Be at the airport at least 40 mins prior to departure" and they turn up 35 mins or 30 mins until departure. I know it may seem harsh to refuse them travel but so much needs to be dine in those 40 mins that there is just not enough time to recalculate everything for 1 passenger. Things we need to account for and do:
- Passenger Figure's
- Baggage Figures
- Bag To Gate Figures
- Fuel Loads (taxi fuel / flight fuel)
- Balance and Weight
- Time sheets
- Getting the A/ C boarded
- Time for the Passengers to get from the Check-in to the Gate
- Meeting the arriving aircraft
- A/C security Checks
- A/C cleaning
Its not a simple job and although we do get it done on time 1 passenger could make a lot of Difference in Fuel loads, Baggage, Weight and balance, the TOB and so on.
So ill conclude Ryanair as not a bad airline, you dont pay much to get to A to B, It gets you their in 1 piece and Quick. No I dont agree with all their rules but if your going to fly cheap then stick within them, Nothing is free There is always a small print, so read it.