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£75 Upgrade To Economy Plus On VS? Should I Do It?  
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6476 times:

Im going to Hong Kong in November on business with work, I have decided to extend my stay there and will be staying for a further four days for leisure, as I have never been there before and I just have to pay the difference for the hotel while there during my own time.

My company are tight b*stards and will only fly me economy....

They have a deal with Virgin Atlantic where most business travel is booked through them, and if I choose I can pay £75 each way extra to fly Economy Plus or £350 each way to fly Upper Class.

Upper Class is immediately out of question, I don't have that sort of money available. But I am seriously considering Economy Plus upgrade for £75, but would like to know what I am getting for money.

This is my first long haul business trip and all my own long haul trips have been in economy with Gulf Air and US Airways and had no issues.

Do you get bigger seats or is it the same seat width with just more leg room? I am aware VS isn't renowned for the greatest leg-room in Economy and was wondering if it would only be comparable with other carriers who have a more generous legroom in Y. Are the meals, IFE and service upgraded? My other concern is the cabin Economy Plus always looks very small with curtains blocking off Economy and Upper Class, does this make the cabin space feel claustrophobic?

Unfortunately they will not allow VS to award Frequent Flyer miles.

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I do have another option and that is that I choose a carrier of my choice and pay on my credit card and claim it back. The company will pay back up to 120% of the value of of the equivalent fare with Virgin Atlantic in Y... They do however get discounted fares from them and the ticket I purchase must be flexible.

If I do this option, I was considering trying out Air New Zealand's new service LHR-HKG, which will be running by then. I know with them they offer a good 34 inch legroom and IFE is good in economy on the newly refurbished 744's.

Also I can earn Dividend Miles with US Airways as part of Star Alliance.

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Would appreciate your feed back and if the £75 upgrade fee is worth it.

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User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6447 times:

I would do it... I think that Economy plus on VS looks much more comfortable and the seat/pitch is a lot bigger. So if you appreciate your space, Absolutely.

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User currently onlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2103 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

For £75 it has to be worth it, especially as it's HKG you're flying to.


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User currently offlineWJ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

Not even a question. an upgrade on such a long leg for 75gbp is a no-brainer. Do it now, do it often.


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User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6364 times:

Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
My company are tight b*stards and will only fly me economy....
? welcome to the club.

[Edited 2006-06-26 22:32:13]


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User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 905 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

Personally I would go for Air new Zealand in Y almost the same legrom as VS Premium but you will get a more sophisitcated cabin service!!

User currently offlineBjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

£350 for C seems pretty cheap - I'd go for Upper Class any day on a 12 hour flight such as this  Smile


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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

£75 is a very good deal  thumbsup  However paying £350 for Upper Class is even more of a bargain and I'd go with the latter.

Out of interest why did you immediately rule out the upgrade to Upper Class but were willing to consider the £75?



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19258 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 7):
Out of interest why did you immediately rule out the upgrade to Upper Class but were willing to consider the £75?



Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
I don't have that sort of money available.

I would also upgrade, although Economy Plus is a silly name.



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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6292 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 7):

Out of interest why did you immediately rule out the upgrade to Upper Class but were willing to consider the £75?

Its cause Im a trailer trash boy and don't appreciate quality! - LOL

Seriously I would like a little extra space and comfort especially on such a long flight, the longest non-stop flight I have flown before is 9hrs (LGW-CLT) and I get very figity and distracted on long flights. The extra service and luxuries does not really bother me. Also I simply can't afford to run to £700 to upgrade to Upper class on a return trip. Im not some big money earning management executive, I've been chosen to represent my department at a conference!

That £700 can pay for spending money and hotel costs while in HKG, and I would probably never go there if it wasn't for this trip.

This will probably be my first and last long haul business trip, busines travel for me usually involves me flying LTN-EDI/AMS on easyJet!

What aircraft do VS operate to HKG and can anyone answer any of my original questions in the Thread Starter, regarding service and personal space.

[Edited 2006-06-26 22:43:39]

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6275 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8):
I would also upgrade, although Economy Plus is a silly name.

That's why its called Premium Economy  Wink

I would do it for £75. I flew Premium economy on Heathrow-San Francisco, and it was well worth the extra cash, and that was £180 extra one way. However that was with the benefit of flying in the upper deck on the B744, which of course isn't available on the A346 to HKG


User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 10):
Premium economy

Thats what I mean!!!

Its referred to in my paperwork as Economy Plus... LOL

Unless that is another class like an exit seat in Y?


User currently offlineWillyj From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

they have 2 flights (or at least the second starts soon) One flight is a 346 and one is a 343. the 346 continues on to SYD and will have much better IFE.
I would go with the 75 pound upgrade in a heartbeat. It makes the flight so much more pleasant, and it will be something new for you, from the sounds of it. VS economy is really tight!


User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

That's £700 return for the Upper Class though - a lot of money, even if it is a steep discount!
The £150 return for Premium Economy does sound like a very generous offer.

On the other hand, you might well appreciate the in-flight service of Air New Zealand more, whatever class you end up in  Smile And there's the miles you would earn for a future leisure trip or upgrade...

I'd go for the £150 upgrade to Premium Economy on Virgin Atlantic personally - it sounds the most cost effective option to get a more comfortable trip.



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User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1628 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

Virgin fly an A340-600 to HKG.

It is configures 2-4-2 in Y class, and 2-3-2 in Premium economy.

VS are also introducing their new Premium Economy seat over the next few months, and it's rolling out intially on the A340-600's - so you may be lucky and get that.

With Premium Economy on VS you also get dedicated check in, priority baggage, priority food service, and extra drinks service.

£75 is very good value - esp considering HKG is a long sector.


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6228 times:

Here are some pics of the W cabin on the A346 :-


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Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
Do you get bigger seats or is it the same seat width with just more leg room?

The whole seat is bigger and wider. The seat in the pic is the current seat. New seats are being fitted to W that look much better, they a the same colour and material as the Upper Class Suite seat.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
Are the meals, IFE and service upgraded?

The meals are the same as Econ, but you get served first so get first choice. The IFE is standard throughout the a/c.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
My other concern is the cabin Economy Plus always looks very small with curtains blocking off Economy and Upper Class, does this make the cabin space feel claustrophobic?

Not at all. Blocks out the riff raff sat behind you, and there is a galley between the W and J cabin. It makes it feel more private.

I'd definately take that £75 option. If you can, why not take Upper at least one way - may as well for that price - if you do though, do it on the LHR-HKG sector then you can use the LHR clubhouse.

 Smile



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User currently offlineStarGuy From United Kingdom, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6171 times:

Quoting Rdwootty (Reply 5):
Personally I would go for Air new Zealand in Y almost the same legrom as VS Premium but you will get a more sophisitcated cabin service!!

BS! I have flown Air New Zealand, and as good as they are, there is NO WAY that their economy seats have as much room as Virgin PE seats. Not to mention that the whole PE seat is much wider with more recline at Virgin.

For a £75 upgrade you should do it without hesitation. An absolute bargain if you ask me.

[Edited 2006-06-28 16:59:49]

User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2036 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6080 times:

Everytime I've walked past the PE section on VS I think "Why didn't I book it?" At 75pounds it's a bargain, you get the benefits of the really good VS IFE (if on a AVOD equipped plane like the A346) plus decent legroom and wider seat.


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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2876 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6072 times:

For �75 you really should upgrade to Economy Plus. There has been some debate over whether it's worth it or not, but after booking World Traveller Plus on BA last summer I've made a mental note to always book Plus or Premium. Even if you decide not to use the IFE system you'd still have a more enjoyable flight; the legroom and seat recline is better than that of economy. Seeing that you are flying from England to Hong Kong, then you'll regret it if you don't :P Yep, it's that good.

P.S: Enjoy your stay in Hong Kong  Smile


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