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Overhead Bin Question  
User currently offline102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

This has happened to me twice in the past month and it’s pissing me off. Okay I have a full fare Y ticket, and I’m assigned to sit in the first row of the Y cabin, thus I’m usually the last to board the aircraft (As most airlines board passengers from the rear of the aircraft first). In any event by the time I get to my seat, there’s luggage in the overhead bin above me, but I’m the only passenger in that row of seats. Both times the FA “solves” the situation by moving some bags around and making room for my carry-on in the rear of the aircraft. This sucks as I have to wait for everyone to file out before I can walk to the back of the aircraft and pick up my carry-on.

Does the contract of carriage guarantee me space in the overhead bin compartment above my seat? If not why are the overhead bin compartments labeled with corresponding seat numbers?

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User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

That's a good question, and one I'd like the answer to as well since this happens to me all the time.


'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
User currently offlineOutlier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Bulkhead seats suck.

We recently flew the Hawaiian Vacations charter (flown by Hawaiian Air).
The ticket agent was excited for us as we got the bulkhead "people really love those!"

Well of course we were the last group called. Found our overhead space full. Tried to use small compartment with the Oxygen sign. FA got involved.
FA: Sir you can't put that there, its for oxygen.
Me: There is no oxygen in there, its empty.
FA: (silly look on her face) Well sir its for oxygen.

I looked across the cabin, on on the opposite side was the oxygen bottles clearly sitting in the compartment.

Me: The oxygen's over there. (I point)
FA:"Well sir, you boarded late, and that's what happens when you don't board on time. We'll have to stow this in the back."

ME: "No, I boarded when I was instructed to. My row was the last row called. I need to have my personal carry on items with me, that's why I carried them on. I've been instructed to carry on anything that I don't want lost, or stolen, and I don't want them in the back somewhere where I'll lose them and not be able to access them in flight. You can't punish me because I followed directions. "

FA then did the right thing. She poked around in the compartments until she found a bag nobody within ear shot would claim, took it out, and put mine in there - which just happened to be right above my seat.

I know their jobs are tough, but blaming me for following instructions is a bit much. I tried to make peace with her later, but she would not talk or look at me.


User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

Technically all it guarantees you is that your allowed baggage will be transported on the same flight. The seat numbers on the overhead bins are solely there to designate the numbers of the seats below them.


"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2736 times:

Often, the numbnut in the back of the plane sotres his/her bag in the first overhead they see and then prances on back to their seat . . .  irked  irked  irked 

I don't have a problem telling said numbnut to move take their crap with them to the back of the bus.

I fly F routinely, and don't often find that an issue in F . . . generally, the F/As handle that. I have seen pax stow their luggage in the overhead in F and go back to Y; then seen the F/A call 'em on it and make them move their bags.

On RJs I prefer a bulkhead seat. . . where often I find the F/As gear stowed in the overhead in the bulkhead row. Solution - I only bring my computer aboard, but I DO find it obnoxious that a paying pax has to compete with overhead space with the crew.

Quoting Outlier (Reply 2):
I tried to make peace with her later, but she would not talk or look at me

Piss on her then. Her mistake in the first place. She'll get over it, or write about you on A-Net . . .  biggrin 

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
Does the contract of carriage guarantee me space in the overhead bin compartment above my seat?

No

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
If not why are the overhead bin compartments labeled with corresponding seat numbers?

The Numbers aren't numbering the bins, they are numbering the seat rows.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
Does the contract of carriage guarantee me space in the overhead bin compartment above my seat?

Nope. It barely guarantees you a seat as it is now.

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
If not why are the overhead bin compartments labeled with corresponding seat numbers?

Good luck enforcing that one.

Quoting Outlier (Reply 2):
Bulkhead seats suck.

Yes they do.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Often, the numbnut in the back of the plane sotres his/her bag in the first overhead they see and then prances on back to their seat . . .

Should be a capital offense in my opinion.  Wink

DL is usually pretty good about chasing folks to the back that try this tactic.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
I have seen pax stow their luggage in the overhead in F and go back to Y; then seen the F/A call 'em on it and make them move their bags.

Absolutely one of the funniest things to see on an airplane.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6901 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

Legally the airline doesn't have to do anything if you don't have space for whatever reason. It is common for a full flight to not have enough overhead space, so requiring certain bags to be gate checked.

Personally I think they should just have the old open hat/coat bins, rip the overhead bins out, anything valuable like cameras/laptops goes under the seat in front...


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

My normal smart ass answer is get to Elite Status with your favorite airline if you can then don't really worry about it!  Smile And then if you do, flying CO currenty with a "Y" fare and elite OnePass status you can normally upgrade upon ticket purchase to first class, seats available of course so you get on the plane first then you can put your overhead where you like. Otherwise as someone posted you get the luggage on the same flight if you are lucky.


Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2629 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2679 times:

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
This has happened to me twice in the past month and it’s pissing me off. Okay I have a full fare Y ticket, and I’m assigned to sit in the first row of the Y cabin, thus I’m usually the last to board the aircraft (As most airlines board passengers from the rear of the aircraft first). In any event by the time I get to my seat, there’s luggage in the overhead bin above me, but I’m the only passenger in that row of seats. Both times the FA “solves” the situation by moving some bags around and making room for my carry-on in the rear of the aircraft. This sucks as I have to wait for everyone to file out before I can walk to the back of the aircraft and pick up my carry-on.

 banghead 

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Often, the numbnut in the back of the plane sotres his/her bag in the first overhead they see and then prances on back to their seat

 checkmark 
What a bunch of cheakskate lazy f##ks who can't take their bags with them.


User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 972 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2604 times:

It annoys me BIG time every single time to see HOW MUCH stuff people take on board. Two days ago, when SIA boarded the 744 bound for AKL, I looked at it: There is hardly any passenger with ONE (or none) piece of carry on luggage, but many with two, three, or even four pieces! And those are not small handbags! Many people take more on board than what I check in. I can't understand why airlines are not stricter with this. It is annoying and it is a safety hazzard. And yes, although I hate boarding first because I don't like sitting on my seat any longer than necessary, I now make use of my gold card and board with the biz/first class passengers, so that I have space for my carry on luggage...

Cheers
micha


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