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Biggest Airline Rivalry?  
User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 922 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7446 times:

Which two airlines do you feel have had the best rivalries? I'd put my top five as follows:

1. American vs. United: the two largest airlines in the world, sparring for decades.
2. Pan Am vs. TWA: the great international rivalry for nearly half a century.
3. British Airways vs. Virgin Atlantic: colorful Branson against the BA establishment.
4. Delta vs. Eastern: Different origins but similar networks.
5. easyJet vs. Ryanair: Stelios and O'Leary.

Other possibilities: American vs. Southwest, Delta vs. JetBlue (still young), United vs. Northwest, Emirates vs. Etihad (also young)

I realize that my list may seem very Amero-centric, but I feel like the best rivalries arehave been those that within the same country. Your thoughts?

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User currently offlineVatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1010 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7436 times:

Quoting Simairlinenet (Thread starter):
Delta vs. JetBlue

Try Delta vs. AirTran.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11972 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7437 times:

This topic came up a few months back, and I'll say now what I said then.

At least in my mind, there is no rivalry in the history of the airline industry that matches the bitterness or downright contempt between ...

British Airways and Virgin Atlantic

Personally, I regard this as the grand-daddy, end-all-be-all of airline rivalries.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7417 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
British Airways and Virgin Atlantic

Was the first thing that came to my mind!



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User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7398 times:

Quoting Simairlinenet (Thread starter):
1. American vs. United: the two largest airlines in the world, sparring for decades.
2. Pan Am vs. TWA: the great international rivalry for nearly half a century.
3. British Airways vs. Virgin Atlantic: colorful Branson against the BA establishment.
4. Delta vs. Eastern: Different origins but similar networks.
5. easyJet vs. Ryanair: Stelios and O'Leary.



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 3):
Was the first thing that came to my mind!

VS and BA was the first thing that came to my mind too. My money's on Virgin.

I also think Air Canada/Westjet could be a good contender. Westjet has dared to take on the socialist goliath of a sad excuse for an airline that is Air Canada.

easyJet and Ryanair co-exist pretty peacefully, and are only just starting to add same city combinations in competition with eachother.


User currently offlineMarkabcan From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7370 times:

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 4):
I also think Air Canada/Westjet could be a good contender. Westjet has dared to take on the socialist goliath of a sad excuse for an airline that is Air Canada.

Finnaly, someone that shares my opinion regarding Air Canada!


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7364 times:

Japan Airlines and AllNippon Airways
Qantas and Ansett
Pan American and Eastern ( Flights from FL)
British Airways and British Caledonian
Air France and UTA
Air Canada and Canadian
SAS and Finnair


USADreamliner


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7364 times:

The Nordic area:

SAS vs. Finnair

These two keep each other busy, both outside and inside the Nordic area: both have created a LCC (Blue1 & Flynordic) to harm the ark rival.

Finnair is growing faster (especially to Asia) and it is in better shape, but the bigger SAS is still hitting back - meaning better deals for us Nordic travellers.

[Edited 2006-07-01 02:22:57]

User currently offlineDETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7302 times:

Braniff vs Southwest and Braniff vs American were two big rivalries back in their day. Also Varig vs TAM, Air Canada vs Canadian Airlines are some that I can think of.

User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1607 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7285 times:

First things that sprang to my mind were WN vs AA and Pan Am vs TWA.

BA vs VS is a big one, yes, but Pan Am vs TWA was the original... and no one's had more rivalries than AA.



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User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7264 times:

AA and WN are not really rivals, Crandall and Kelleher were, and are still, really good friends.

Matt


User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 922 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7265 times:

To justify my selection of American and United:

The two have been arch rivals since the end of World War II, and have swapped 1 and 2 spots in the (Western) world a few times. Any move by one demanded an immediate response from the other. Examples include:
-Sabre vs. Apollo and other travel agent arenas.
-Chicago.
-United buys its way into Heathrow via Pan Am. American follows immediately via TWA.
-American buys Eastern's South America routes. United follows buy purchasing Pan Am's routes.
-United announces it will buy US Airways. American counters with TWA.
-Earlier examples involving coast-to-coast service, I'm sure.


User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7265 times:

America West vs South West.......LAS and PHX hubs for both airlines (okay maybe not for WN but "heavy connecting airports")

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 6):
Japan Airlines and AllNippon Airways

Good one!



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User currently offlineReyes27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

Singapore and Thai

EVA and China Airlines


User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet:

Aeromexico vs. Mexicana


User currently offlineSkyexramper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7222 times:

These days it's a royal rumble! Last name standing.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7204 times:

BA versus VS by far the biggest with UA versus AA a distant 2nd...


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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4973 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7204 times:
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Have to agree with those who say that the BA/VS war is the king of all airline rivalries. It is the most explicit, most amusing one where they literally trash talk each other; none of the others really come close in terms of direct finger-pointing. Compared to BA/VS, the other traditional rivalries are nothing but gentlemanly bouts. The next closest is probably Pan Am vs. TWA in the old days but then that was more of a fight between Juan Trippe and Howard Hughes rather than really between the two companies.

User currently offlineFlyer62 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7172 times:

agreed!! Delta vs Eastern, bring back EASTERN!!

User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7125 times:

Quoting Flyer62 (Reply 18):
agreed!! Delta vs Eastern, bring back EASTERN!!

If you really want to go back, don't forget National vs. Eastern, National vs. Pan Am, and Western vs. Continental. Those three were quite the rivalry.



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

UA v. Pan Am
AA v. SouthWest
Mexicana v. AeroMexico
Most of all: British Airways v. Virgin



Go big or go home
User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7008 times:

UA and AA out of ORD is pretty competitive

User currently offlineJrosa From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 367 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7008 times:

From Brazil:

VARIG x TAM - the traditional and friendly airline x the young bragging yuppie airline.

And the Hor Concour: British Airways x Virgin Atlantic.


User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6983 times:

Maya Island Air versus Tropic Air in Belize Big grin

before clicking the thread I thought Virgin vs BA


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User currently offlineUalcsr From United States of America, joined May 2006, 485 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6967 times:

BA/VS is not just a business rivalry, it can get personal too; clearly the front-runners here.

25 Avatordon : JAL and ANA - neither one of them care what their non-Japanese counterparts do, so long as neither one one ups the other. Very strange rivalry.
26 Ualcsr : Some more that have come to mind: COPA vs. TACA Korean vs. Asiana And two oldies..... Avianca vs. ACES Faucett vs. Aero Peru
27 Jetdeltamsy : A HUGE rivalry of the past was Continental/United. Of course, the once highly profitable and highly arrogant United hammered Continental into the grou
28 NorthwestEWR : My vote also goes to BA/VS !! Nothing else like it.
29 JetBlueLuv : I'd say every US legacy carrier Vs. Southwest
30 Antonovman : "Have to agree with those who say that the BA/VS war is the king of all airline rivalries. It is the most explicit, most amusing one where they litera
31 VinnieWinnie : Has Ryanair VS British Airways (Or any other European airline which flies throughout Europe) Been nominated yet? With all the crap PR ryanair does sur
32 Aloha73G : Aloha vs. Hawaiian ......Though I would say its a very friendly rivalry. -Aloha!
33 ANCFlyer : Interisland there's not much difference IMO - and I've flown both AQ and HA interisland plenty of times - except the airframe. Across big water, the
34 Wrighbrothers : BA/VS, they (usually VS) just make punches at each other, Richard Branson wanting to buy Concorde, deliberately comparing BA club world to VS upper cl
35 Post contains images Antonovman : "once he challenged Rod Eddington to let 5 passengers travel on BA club world, then on VS upper class, who ever lots the competition, had to dress up
36 FlySSC : There's never been rivalry between Af and UT as they were complementary but have never been competitors !!! UTA was flying network AF was NOT flying.
37 Post contains images Azza40 : Easyjet vs, Go (BA's subsidary). That is before EZY finally bought them out Aaron
38 DC10Forever : If Varig shuts down, the fight will be GOL x TAM (Oranges x Apples).
39 Post contains images Mig21UMD : ah, the good old days. I still become sad when I think of Ansett. Ansett had Qantas beat in may fields including pasanger service and empolyee morale
40 Arecibo : Eastern - American - Pan Am @ SJU People Express - Eastern Suttle Kiwi - Carnival TWA - Pan Am Prinair - Bwia
41 Zone1 : Nothing can beat BA and VS, but the CO and DL fight in NYC is getting kind of fun to watch.
42 ABfemme : I'd say thet these two are tops
43 YYZYHZ : I would say Air Canada vs WestJet, it has the story of corporate spying, predatory pricing, and the launch of Zip, a Western discount carrier, to try
44 Tango29 : Ryanair and every airline in europe!!!!
45 1stfl94 : TWA vs Pan Am BA vs VS Easyjet vs Go Air Canada vs Canadian Ryanair vs LH, AZ, Easyjet, AF etc Possibly rivalries in the future EK vs EY Air India vs
46 Elite : I think that SQ-CX is one that will grow, but not sure if anyone have paid attention to these 2.
47 BA747YYZ : All Good The next big one! Air Canada vs. Canadian was pretty big back in the day!
48 T7ILS13LatJFK : From the Middle East (with service to the USA), I'd say El Al and Continental.
49 BAxMAN : Ryanair v Aer Fungus is one of the most significant European rivalries of recent times. Although Ryanair have a rivalry against practically every carr
50 Philly : My top three: Virgin Atlantic vs. British Airways Pan Am vs. TWA American vs. United (ORD) There are so many others to mention but more market specifi
51 BCAL : You have to be joking to think there was any rivalry between BA and BCal. For starters, BA was then a state owned airline, heavily subsidised and pro
52 Airtanzania1 : In Africa I say: SA vs. KQ or KQ vs. ET I dont really know who is gonna come on top on this battle but I hope they will be able to increase the standa
53 UsAirways16bwi : i wouldnt call it a rivalry really....DL and FL pretty much co-exist in ATL. When something happens to a DL flight, DL puts pax on FL where possible,
54 BA787 : Branson is a smarmy bastard but a good businessman BA/VS no contest Still think BA will come out on top, especially if the Bermuda agreement is lifte
55 Ha787 : my opion for the biggest airline rivalry are North America low cost- Jetblue vs. Southwest North America majors- American vs. United South America/Cen
56 TACAA320 : That's definitely a great challenge.
57 Tom12 : Me too, before i even opened the thread Yeah, Ryanair and whoever is on one of there routes. Tom
58 Post contains images Vhqpa : That was actually Geoff Dixson (QF CEO) not our PM. The dare was if Virgin Atlantic started flights to Australia in that calendar year Geoff Dixson h
59 Pe@rson : You'll actually find that neither U2 nor FR compete on many routes and that the two carriers do, on the whole, target different markets. They do, as
60 MechEngineer : Lufthansa and dba on the domestic flights, although they pretend not to notice each other. Don't ask the Lufthansa crew for your chocolate heart when
61 CruzinAltitude : I'm thinking we need a competition to vote to the A-Netter's favorite, or biggest rivalry. Simairlinenet, you should put one together with all these g
62 777jaah : I thought on that one too, but is such a small rivalry compared to BA - VS. I would like to think in Copa against TACA. JAAH
63 ContinentalGuy : Please, EVA should be paired with CX.
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