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User currently offlineKmsyd777 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8558 times:

Hi guys,

I'm just wondering which airline has the best economy class product in the world at the moment? Me thinks... BA, SQ, EK, CX, QF, NZ would be up there?

What do you reckon????

Cheers
Kmsyd777

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User currently offlineBjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8511 times:

I'd say probably MH with that extra seat pitch or SQ.

QF, NZ, BA and other western airlines does not match the Asian airlines if you ask me. I did CX on LHR-HKG-TPE return and did not appreciate their Y service - I think they focus hard on C/F service.

I have no experience of EK but I've hear good (and bad) things about them.



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3323 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8500 times:

MH for sure....

Possibly even TG for seat pitch


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8469 times:

Just my opinion but seat pitch is a huge factor and therefore QANTAS, BA, and anyone with 31" of pitch fall very short. At the end of the day the food in Steerage will be semi-edible, the seats too narrow, and the blankets too thin so no Coach product is great IMO but some are less worse than others.

Even with other bells and whistles like AVOD and such don't help the fact that anyone over 5'5" will get a good view of the head of the person in front of them as soon as the seat is reclined.



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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8438 times:

NZ without a doubt good food, service and entertainment

User currently offlineStarGuy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8423 times:

For me, a good product is based around the IFE. If the food is edible, the seat reclines, and their are crew onboard that bring me a drink and a meal every now and then I'm satisfied. AVOD IFE is what makes a 12 hour flight seem like a four hour one.

I'm my opinion, SQ and VS economy are the best. The AVOD IFE is a winner and makes the flight fly by. The service is good. The seat pitch is no better than any other economy class though. 1 inch here or there doesn't really make any difference in my opinion and I'm 6 feet tall. If you are worried about lots of leg room, pay for business or first, end of story.

BA is pretty standard in my opinion, good for a western airline, but falls behind Asian standards, they will have more to offer once the IFE is updated, but the food and the seat pitch are very standard. The service can be professional but no more than their competitors.

EK has good IFE although I am not a fan of the 10 a breast seating on the 777 and the service can be inconsistent.

Air New Zealand has got an very good product now that the cabins have been updated but it have experienced a very rude crew member whilst flying with them.


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3207 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8410 times:

US Airways has a great economy product. 34" seat pitch and AVOD system. US gets my vote!  thumbsup 


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User currently offlineKrje1980 From Norway, joined Feb 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8393 times:

Actually, when I flew SQ from Amsterdam to Singapore last December, the seat pitch was absolutely wonderful (must have been 34 inches at least). The plane was a Boeing 777, and I could even walk past the guy in the isle seat without him having to stand up. I think this is just standard on a few of SQs flights though. When I flew a 747 back from Singapore to Paris, the seat pitch was much less. Nevertheless, the footrest is a true blessing for me since I do not get any of those leg cramps I always get on planes which do not have them. So even with less space, SQ gets my vote for the best economy class. The attendants are really nice and professional, you get plenty of food (for being Y at least), the IFE rocks, and you usually start or end your journey in wonderful Changi airport.

User currently offlineChulalongkorn From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8368 times:

I give you.... All Nippon Airways.


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User currently offlineHa787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

jetblue has the best coach service in the skies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8266 times:

TG have always been the best because they maintain a high standard, which I feel is the key component to a successful product, in any service class. And we all know that with a standardised product throughout the fleet, the ground crew and F/A's are the key to a happy journey and experience.

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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8243 times:

(drum roll please)...

I nominate Asiana (OZ). Great food, attentive service, sparkling clean cabins, and (on 777s), AVOD.


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User currently offlineTg 747-300 From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8127 times:

To me Seat Pitch, Food and Crew is where you can make a difference. IFE i don't care too much about. ( As long as i have some music, and an airshow I'm generally happy. Not that i mind some nice AVOD though)

With this in mind TG will probably be my favourite. Good seat pitch, friendly crew, and excellent big meals.

KL ranks quite high with me for their crews, but seat pitch could be better for longhaul. NW too has a quite good long haul product.

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User currently offlineZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1662 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8097 times:

depends on weather your travelling short haul or longhaul, tho as I travel longhaul a lot, would have to say NZ, just love that 34 inch and IFE !! the food is ok, - tho think they could put in another meal, WITH only 2 meals on a 13 1/2 sector SUCKS!!


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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8056 times:

Definitely TG - but only on their newer Y class - like on the A345/346. Those are magnificient - 34" pitch, huge (10"?) screens with full AVOD, good service etc.

The older TG/Y was good - but due to the lack of IFE, not the best.



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3300 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8041 times:
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Based on the airlines I've flown I vote either LX or VS.

LH is pretty good, but I hate the complete lack of PTV's, even if the IFE is not nearly the most important part of a flight for me.

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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8027 times:

Out of my personal experiences, I would have to say that KL, AC, LH and BA are quite up there. All offer fantastic service and out of my extensive Trans Atlantic flights, I've never had a problem with them yet.

The seats are incredibly comfortable, with the exception of the B747's and KL's B767. Food has always been pleasing, the staff (both on the ground and in the cabin) have always been professional, not always the friendliest, but professional.

As far as PTV goes, I could care less about it myself. Doesn't do anything for me. Understandably, in today's business world, it is something very important to market an airlines product. But personally, if I wanted to watch TV, I could have stayed at home and done it for free. When I book at ticket, I want to experience the thrill of air travel. Simple as that.

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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8017 times:

AC's is really good, especially on their widebody aircraft. As someone 6'4" (1,93m) AA back during "more room throughout coach" was my favorite, even without AVOD, and my experience has been good with AA flight crews.

CO gets extra points for flawless execution though.



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7987 times:

What are my criteria for judging long/medium haul flights?

Efficient and well staffed check in desks
Comfortable seating - well designed, adjustable (e.g. movable headrest) and not worn out!
Legroom - more than 31 is nice
Width - 9 or 10 abreast seats on 777s for example?
IFE - AVOD systems are a great improvement, working headphones are essential too, having a wonky headphone socket is very annoying!
Food - edible, tasty meals with decent portions
Alcohol - some complimentary alcohol helps the journey pass  Wink
Drink - plentiful water or juice - a water dispenser is nice (e.g. EK) or perhaps a galley where you can help yourself (I've seen this on a VS flight)
No annoying intrusions - e.g. those IFE boxes on the floor! The last TG A346 flight had good legroom, but a IFE box just where I wanted to put my feet!
Hostesses - attentive, polite and efficient (being attractive is a bonus too!)

On these criteria, SQ narrowly wins over TG (I haven't travelled MH or NZ long haul so sadly can't comment on them)



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User currently offlineUalcsr From United States of America, joined May 2006, 485 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7983 times:

Of the airlines I've flown, VS takes the top spot. Great IFE, decent food (with snacks from the galley if you get hungry midflight) and cheery flight attendants. Seat pitch was average, but I was lucky to be on 1/2 empty flight and got a whole row.

User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7976 times:

North America: JetBlue.
Europe: Virgin Atlantic.
Asia: Cathay Pacific.



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User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7949 times:
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Obviously MH as they were voted best economy product by Skytrax for 2006. They have AVOD, 34" seat pitch, and their cabin staff are consistently ranked amongst the best in the world. To me, SQ and CX would be closely tied behind.

-QF, BA, VS, KL and LH are all let down by their seat pitches.
-NZ is let down by their service, partly due to the fact that they have much less cabin crew on a 744 then SQ/MH/CX e.t.c do.
-TG is let down by the in-consistency of it's product, i.e on one sector you have a fabulous new 346 with AVOD, yet on another flight you have an old and tired 744 with dreadful over head screens.
-EK is let down by the HUGE brain box under the seat for the IFE and also because of the 3-4-3 configuration on their 777's.


User currently offlineChulalongkorn From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7905 times:

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 21):
-QF, BA, VS, KL and LH are all let down by their seat pitches

NH should be added to this list. ANA's economy class service is 5 star, only let down by the seat pitch.

Cheers!



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User currently offlineDimoko From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 307 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7870 times:

KL has those ham sandwiches...yummy

of the airlines i have been on, i prefer CO. they just seem to be more professional, when dealing with them. like they know you are on business, not just on your way to disneyland. i like that approach.



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User currently offlineBaguy From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7798 times:

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25 BananaBoY : US: United Europe scheduled: overall, probably BA Europe scheduled: First Choice Asia: TG beats SQ for me.. it's all about the legroom! Both NZ and QF
26 LPLAspotter : To be fair, I haven't flown NZ and some of the other mentioned here, but I thought SQ was fantastic. All my flights were short (shortest was 3 hours)
27 VHVXB : I reckon its great regardless of how many f/a are there[Edited 2006-08-02 08:39:19]
28 USAF757300 : YX Signature Service. Huge seats, great service, and awesome cookies. Even their Saver Service isnt bad.
29 Copenhagenboy : TG because of legroom, nice food and always friendly staff, they even make my Bloody Mary, not with Mr and Ms T mix, but from the ground with Tabasco
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