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Best Business Class Over The Pacific  
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6879 times:

Ok, I'm flying from SMF to MNL in a few weeks. I'm looking for the best business class service accross the Pacific. I'm not sure I wanna take the direct Phillipines Arlines flight SFO-MNL and was looking for some advise on wat the best biz class is. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. I was thinking more of SMF-LAX on UA then LAX-HKG-MNL on CX. What do you guys think??

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User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6846 times:

I don't know what how your paying (if with miles or something) but SQ flys over there and i have heard that their business class is better then CX, also CX seat doesn't go all the way flat... close, but not quite.
Also you can go through SYD or Brisbane with Qantas.
Qantas skybed goes all the way flat!
I sat next to some on on Qantas a few weeks ago and he said that he flys around the world for his business and Qantas sports the best business class seat out of all the airlines he has flown on.

so if you don't mind flying to the down under then I'd go with Qantas, if you don't then SQ. this said CX isn't a terrible airline, they are quite good.

also ANA's new business class looks really classy! I don't believe they fly to manila, but they could get you over in that direction!
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 1):

It's on my employer's tab so the price is not a big issue. I think I like SQ's the best and QF's full recliners aren't bad at all. Thanx for the info and the pics.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9661 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6613 times:

The business class seats flying across the Pacific are on Air New Zealand. The Virgin style suites are amazing, but of course that is not practical for your trip.

I recommend Singapore. I liked their Spacebed. It is really well designed and easy to sleep in. I enjoyed it on the 18 hour journey between EWR and SIN. I've heard good thing about ANA and they really have been hyping their new business class. JAL is also competitive. I haven't flown CX, but they are supposed to be good.

Not all Asian airlines are the same though. A certain few give the region a good reputation, but there are some pretty bad business classes out there.

Phillipine Airlines isn't good from what I hear. They are outdated just like China Airlines and Eva. Eva has 46'' pitch, China has 50'', Phillipine has 45''.

In comparison SQ has 58'', ANA has 65'', JAL has 62'' and Cathay has 60''.

For US airlines, NW has 60''. It is the average of all the airlines. Decent service, food and seats.



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6586 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):

Thanx for the info. My co-workers are flying Phillipines since it's a direct flight but I heard their biz class is waay outdated. I figured since it's gonna be a long flight either way, I'll shop around. I think I'll definitely try SQ's this time around and since I'll be doing the trip once a month till the end of the year, I'll try JAL and ANA later.

Is UA's business class any good? Chanel 9 on an international would be nice.


User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6566 times:

Have you considered Asiana? I hear they're ok.

User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6557 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):
Is UA's business class any good?

If you want lie-flat seats then no.
they still have the old fashion cradle seats, plus i wasn't to impressed when I flew with them, maybe it was just bad luck, but the flight attendants, calling centre and ticketing agents were REALLY rude to me. now I'm not going to say that everyone at United are pricks, that wouldn't be true, but personally I would rather fly on a asian carrier.

(ANA, SQ, JAL, CX) thats four airlines, if your going once a month tell the end of the year, then you can try every airline once and then at the end fly the one you liked the most a few more times  Smile
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.



to some people the sky is the limit, to aviation enthusiasts, its home!
User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6547 times:

The ones that Alaskaqantas has mentioned are good choices there is also OZ which is a pretty good airline

User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6532 times:

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 6):
(ANA, SQ, JAL, CX) thats four airlines, if your going once a month tell the end of the year, then you can try every airline once and then at the end fly the one you liked the most a few more times

Good idea. I might just do that.... I'm definately looking forward to an Asian airline.

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 7):
The ones that Alaskaqantas has mentioned are good choices there is also OZ which is a pretty good airline

From what I hear, their biz class is quite decent too.


User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 6490 times:

Has anybody here ever flown Korean air? Are they any good? I couldn't find much cabin shots in the database.

User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 6486 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 8):
From what I hear, their biz class is quite decent too.

yeah i have flown OZ SYD-ICN-SFO in economy as their service was excellent you won't be disappointed


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 6480 times:

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 1):
Qantas skybed goes all the way flat!

Since when? It's just another lie-flat at an angle.

Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 5):
Have you considered Asiana? I hear they're ok

OZ 747/767 C is as patetic as PR, the refurbished 777s should be nicer. PR C is definitely not the way to go, especially if you happen to get N754PR - it has an even more cramped upper deck than the rest. PR F is somewhat equal to SQ C comfort wise... and might be cheaper too.



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 6478 times:

Looks like SQ will be out of the question since my godamn co-workers flew PR and paid so little that my boss is barking over the $6800 quote I gave him on SQ. I might have to do OZ or Korean at this rate but PR is out of the question for me.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 6469 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):
My co-workers are flying Phillipines since it's a direct flight but I heard their biz class is waay outdated.

It reminded me a bit of the old NW classic WBC. The new NW world business class gets high ratings. You could do SMF-DTW-NRT-MNL.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 6458 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 13):
The new NW world business class gets high ratings. You could do SMF-DTW-NRT-MNL.

Do they have it on all their prans-pacific A330's and 747's?


User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months ago) and read 6445 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 11):

Since when? It's just another lie-flat at an angle.

i was just trying to say that they recline to 180 degrees, I didn't say that they weren't angled (at least I didn't mean to Wink) I was also just saying that because CX doesn't go quite flat... like I said its close to it, but not quite.

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 12):
Looks like SQ will be out of the question since my godamn co-workers flew PR and paid so little that my boss is barking over the $6800 quote I gave him on SQ. I might have to do OZ or Korean at this rate but PR is out of the question for me.

asaina has a new business class seat, its angled and doesn't go completly 180, it goes to 167 degrees.
heres a link: http://www1.flyasiana.com/sub/other/newair/main.html

korean have a lie-flat seat

I don't know what airline has better service or what have you, but I'd look into the trip report section.
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.



to some people the sky is the limit, to aviation enthusiasts, its home!
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6438 times:

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 15):

Thanx for the link and the pic and thanx to it, I booked myself on OZ for quite a bargain. $2500 for a full fare. Thanx again, now I'm excited.  bouncy 


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6435 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 14):
Do they have it on all their prans-pacific A330's and 747's?

Yes, but it doesn't matter anymore that you booked already.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6430 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 16):
Thanx for the link and the pic and thanx to it, I booked myself on OZ for quite a bargain. $2500 for a full fare. Thanx again, now I'm excited

what a/c will you be flying on tinkerbelle??
Enjoy your trip


User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6421 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 17):
Yes, but it doesn't matter anymore that you booked already.

You're right. I don't think I'd have flown them anyways but was just wondering.

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 18):
what a/c will you be flying on tinkerbelle??
Enjoy your trip

I'll be flying a 772ER SFO-ICN-MNL on both legs. The link above claim 777's to SFO are equipped with the new business class thus my excitement. I was even more stoked when I found out they are a Star Alliance member.


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