PipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1591 posts, RR: 52 Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4410 times:
Hello everyone,
I have seen the movie "United 93" ("Vol 93" here) yesterday night. I just wanted you guys to give me your impression on the movie! What did you think?
I thought it was really good, very few aviation-related mistakes, and makes your heart beat the whole movie. Bearing in mind that this really happened...
Regards,
Philippe
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DreamsUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4399 times:
Nah, I haven't seen it, dont think I will, I think it is horrible that we are marketing off a tragedy like the new movie 9/11 or whatever it is called, I remember it, and don't need to relive it thank you... Anyway, there is a 737 on the box... it was a 757, such a blatant mistake is not worth the effort to me, but I'm curious at how the rest was, we had a special on the Discovery Channel about it, it was called the flight that fought back... that was good but a motion picture... I just don't know...
-Josh
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PipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1591 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4395 times:
I had that feeling too when going to the movie, of course not with the same feelings that Americans have, it hasn't affected us the same way. But the movie is really human, and very well made, it's not the kind of Hollywood $$$making motion pictures that you see everyday. Really. I don't think that the ones who directed the movie wanted to make money on it, because a lot of americans are just not ready to see a movie about 9/11 yet I guess. They are aware of that. To me it's more of a tribute to the people that died that day.
I'm not sure I get you here, the whole movie happens inside a 757, and for once, the movie does not show a 737 at takeoff, a 747 inflight and a 757 at landing. Factually (at least with everything to do with aviation), the movie was very accurate.
It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.
DesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1389 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4388 times:
When I watched "United 93" I was less interested in the aviation details but very interested in the decisions passengers made to take the situation in hand and accept the consequences.
The TV version, Flight 93, was a horrible, poorly done version from HBO, or Lifetime (something like that), not the same one from Hollywood with high awards. It used bad computer graphics and focused too much on the drama, even graphically depicting stabbings and the crash, and made the ordeal look "sci-fi": was distasteful and disgraceful.
I believe this thread is talking about United 93
The Hollywood movie, United 93, with all of the awards, was very good and the aviation theme was excellently researched. Unlike the TV version, United 93 focused more on the heroic efforts and aspects of teamwork. While it showed blood, it did not depict the airplane crash or stabbings. But one important note:
United 93 is a powerful movie of reflection, and should not be viewed as a source of "fun" entertainment.
So would I recommend it to a family for a Friday Night outing? Probably not. But if you enjoy powerful movies (such as foreign films), I'd say yes.
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3094 posts, RR: 48 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4372 times:
Yes I did. Twice, actually. I thought it was very, very well done. It was really interesting to see the two perspectives that were presented.
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4351 times:
Having seen the dreadful ‘Flight 93’ my expectations for ‘United 93’ were low but then somewhere I read (maybe on a.net) a review of the film written by a Delta pilot who was on flying duties on the day and received the warning about cockpit intrusions and subsequently the order for the immediate grounding of all aircraft in US airspace. The review was very favourable, heavily pointing out the accuracy of the sets, the crew’s actions, the action on the ground at ATC (my recollection is that the person who played the chief at ATC in the film was the real person who was on duty that day – his first day in the new position) and elsewhere, and the attention to detail. Partly due to this excellent review and my interest in civil aviation, the film was a “must see” and I saw it on the day of its release in the UK.
Whilst it will never be know for certainty what exactly happened on United 93 that day, the film was an engrossing, but disturbing, and probably an accurate account. It did not feature the usual Hollywood heroes who save the world from villains, but the average guy from the street who had found himself in an unique and dangerous situation and realised that his death would perhaps save many other people’s lives. At most stages the film was very sensitive and it appeared to me that the director was more concerned in telling the story accurately than making a film that would be a box office success.
There were few people in the cinema when I saw the film but it was obvious that they were all moved by the film. When the end credits came up, there was not the usual scramble to get out but everyone remained seated until the house lights came up. At that stage, someone clapped and immediately the whole audience joined in. Leaving the auditorium, strangers were talking to each other about the film and the impact that it had had on them.
I would not recommend the film as a blockbuster or adventure to play one evening for the family or friends. But if you wanted a film that is highly engrossing, albeit disturbing, or have any interest in civil aviation or the events of 9/11, I would urge you to see the film.
I cannot wait for it to be released on DVD. I believe it is due out in the US on 9 September (to coincide with the date) but in the UK the DVD release is not until late October.
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Jkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4341 times:
Yes I did go and see it!
I thought it was also pretty good, but also I found it quite disturbing. As people have mentioned, this is definitely not one for "the family" on a quiet night in.
I would probably buy it on DVD when it arrives in the UK.
Cell1721121 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 12 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4321 times:
I saw United 93 and thought it was very well made. The director didn't focus on just one person. I did notice one mistake were there should have been a 757 there was an A320. Besides that it was a really good movie.
DreamsUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4312 times:
Huh, interesting, I think maybe I'll think about renting it then, however I did like how the Discovery Channel's documentary was set up, even though it was quite graphic for a tribute, horrible CGI though...
-Josh
Do not abort a takeoff because a cockpit window pops open!
FlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1349 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4275 times:
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Its on my list of best movies this year.
I was on the edge of my seat the whole way through the film and felt shivers down my spine, knowing it was all based on real events.
Quite a film
Kev.
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Ordryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4260 times:
i agree with DreamsUnited on his first response, living through 9/11 the first time was bad enough, seeing the movie is going to bring back some bad memories for me... but to answer your question, yes I'm going to see it (haven't seen in yet obviously).
-Ryan
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Alaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 900 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4251 times:
I haven't seen it, but I just came from watching World Trade Centers. At the end of that movie there were people crying, teenagers of my age were crying. Then some bloke in the back had to laugh at something. oh well I found the World Trade Centers very moving and a movie that keeps you thinking about what really happened on that day.
Mr. Cage said at the end that the day would be remebered for the evil, but mainly for the love and courage that came from the men that worked to save the souls lost at the World Trade Center.
I will watch United 93, can't wait to see another show of bravery!
I bet two main things were running through the mens head on United 93, One: I can't let other people die when I can help it. Two: we have a beeter chance if we try to do some thing.
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Luketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4170 times:
Yeah I just saw WTC the other night. After it was over there was silence. When we walked out we just walked and didnt speak. I got in the car and turned off the music and just sat there. It was very sad and very real. I will watch United 93 when it comes out on dvd.
Jeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 961 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4162 times:
Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 2): Factually (at least with everything to do with aviation), the movie was very accurate.
They even got a real pilot to act as one of the pilots aboard United 93. I have not seen the movie, but if I am not mistaken one of the pilots is an African-American. The person who plays him(I do not know his name) is a 747 pilot for UPS and is also certified on the 757. The director wanted his movie to be painfully accurate, so he went so far as to get an actual airline pilot for the role of an airline pilot. I believe he was a consultant on the movie due to his extensive
knowledge of how airliners fly.
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4162 times:
Quoting Jeffry747 (Reply 17): They even got a real pilot to act as one of the pilots aboard United 93. I have not seen the movie, but if I am not mistaken one of the pilots is an African-American. The person who plays him(I do not know his name) is a 747 pilot for UPS and is also certified on the 757. The director wanted his movie to be painfully accurate, so he went so far as to get an actual airline pilot for the role of an airline pilot. I believe he was a consultant on the movie due to his extensive
knowledge of how airliners fly.
That is correct. The pilots were played by actual airline pilots and the FAs were actual or retired FAs. I recall that the actors who played the terrorists were also segregated from the others except when on set to increase the tension.
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ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4158 times:
Just to double check....Flight 93 and United 93 are two different films? I saw Flight 93 and was amazed at the incredible bad acting, ruined it for me.
Luketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4157 times:
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 19): Just to double check....Flight 93 and United 93 are two different films? I saw Flight 93 and was amazed at the incredible bad acting, ruined it for me.
One was a made for tv movie... the other was in theatres and will be on dvd soon.
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11308 posts, RR: 17 Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4114 times:
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United 93 was released in New Zealand last week. I was going to watch it the first day it came out but those plans got changed. I'm going to buy it on DVD when its released and I might see it in the movies. I'm keen on seeing also 'World Trade Centers'
A340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4103 posts, RR: 53 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 4091 times:
Yes, I saw it a while back. Very moving picture and something you have to watch with a certain level of intensity and understanding, it's not a lighthearted or action packed hollywood film. I thought that it was emotionally gripping and had me affected the whole evening after as though it lingered in my mind. The thing I found most chilling was the fact the guys were just sat there being treated like normal passengers. I know this is obvious, but it's strange to actually see, as before you sort of seperate the two.
Quoting BCAL (Reply 8): There were few people in the cinema when I saw the film but it was obvious that they were all moved by the film. When the end credits came up, there was not the usual scramble to get out but everyone remained seated until the house lights came up. At that stage, someone clapped and immediately the whole audience joined in. Leaving the auditorium, strangers were talking to each other about the film and the impact that it had had on them
As the film ended where I was everyone was silent, and that continued as people left. There were a few people crying too, it felt like we were mourning those who had died, very strange, like seeing a powerful piece of theatre it managed to grip you in such a realistic sense.
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Joffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 775 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 4086 times:
Saw the movie last wednesday.
Thought It was very well done, and really captured on what might of happened on Flight 93.
I like how they used Real pilots and F.A's rather than actors and how the people in the ATC centre played themselvs.
The movie was quite moving and there were some obvious aviation-related mistakes which were not that bad IE United A320 taking off and how they referred to some of the hijacked flights as 757's instead of 767's. (May of happened due to all the confusion)
Does anyone know what 757 was used when the Co-pilot did the walkaround in EWR?
Quoting A340600 (Reply 22): As the film ended where I was everyone was silent, and that continued as people left
I noticed that too. People walked out very quietly at the end.
Amritpal From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3982 times:
sorry to be little off topic, but Flight 93 was, in the start, shot at YVR. just thought of sharing this info.
[Edited 2006-09-02 17:50:00]
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25 777ER: I've just seen Flight93 at home and thought it was excellent. Why did they show an A320 as the aircraft at the gate?
26 Amritpal: just watched the United 93, actually its much much better movie than Flight 93. my heart beats speed up when the second plane hit the tower, to see ev
27 Dale: Just finished watching United 93 on DVD much better than Flight 93 ,Very sad to watch ,Could not believe the break down in the chain of command.
28 Skookum: I love the fact that the first several aircraft visible in "Flight 93" (or the crummy TV movie one) are an AC 'bus, a couple of CMA 1900s, and a WestJ
29 BMIFlyer: I now have it on DVD, and yes I watched it. Very sad movie Lee
30 I530j: Just bought the DVD and yes I have seen it in theaters also very good movie 5 stars. Made me cry a bit to. Cheers, Justin
31 Highflyer9790: I saw the movie twice, and it is one of the best made movies ive ever seen. this is in no way "marketing off 9/11..." it was done repectively and dire
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