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"United 93" Movie. Did You See It?  
User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7382 times:

Hello everyone,

I have seen the movie "United 93" ("Vol 93" here) yesterday night. I just wanted you guys to give me your impression on the movie! What did you think?

I thought it was really good, very few aviation-related mistakes, and makes your heart beat the whole movie. Bearing in mind that this really happened...

Regards,
Philippe


It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.
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User currently offlineDreamsUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7371 times:

Nah, I haven't seen it, dont think I will, I think it is horrible that we are marketing off a tragedy like the new movie 9/11 or whatever it is called, I remember it, and don't need to relive it thank you... Anyway, there is a 737 on the box... it was a 757, such a blatant mistake is not worth the effort to me, but I'm curious at how the rest was, we had a special on the Discovery Channel about it, it was called the flight that fought back... that was good but a motion picture... I just don't know...

-Josh



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User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7367 times:

I had that feeling too when going to the movie, of course not with the same feelings that Americans have, it hasn't affected us the same way. But the movie is really human, and very well made, it's not the kind of Hollywood $$$making motion pictures that you see everyday. Really. I don't think that the ones who directed the movie wanted to make money on it, because a lot of americans are just not ready to see a movie about 9/11 yet I guess. They are aware of that. To me it's more of a tribute to the people that died that day.

Quoting DreamsUnited (Reply 1):
Anyway, there is a 737 on the box

I'm not sure I get you here, the whole movie happens inside a 757, and for once, the movie does not show a 737 at takeoff, a 747 inflight and a 757 at landing. Factually (at least with everything to do with aviation), the movie was very accurate.



It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.
User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7360 times:

When I watched "United 93" I was less interested in the aviation details but very interested in the decisions passengers made to take the situation in hand and accept the consequences.

User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7360 times:

Quoting DesertAir (Reply 3):

Yeah me too, but I can't help myself to look at these details  Wink



It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.
User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7355 times:

Quoting DreamsUnited (Reply 1):
Anyway, there is a 737 on the box

That was Flight 93, not United 93:


The TV version, Flight 93, was a horrible, poorly done version from HBO, or Lifetime (something like that), not the same one from Hollywood with high awards. It used bad computer graphics and focused too much on the drama, even graphically depicting stabbings and the crash, and made the ordeal look "sci-fi": was distasteful and disgraceful.

I believe this thread is talking about United 93


The Hollywood movie, United 93, with all of the awards, was very good and the aviation theme was excellently researched. Unlike the TV version, United 93 focused more on the heroic efforts and aspects of teamwork. While it showed blood, it did not depict the airplane crash or stabbings. But one important note:

United 93 is a powerful movie of reflection, and should not be viewed as a source of "fun" entertainment.

So would I recommend it to a family for a Friday Night outing? Probably not. But if you enjoy powerful movies (such as foreign films), I'd say yes.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

Yes I did. Twice, actually. I thought it was very, very well done. It was really interesting to see the two perspectives that were presented.

Very moving, but a must see.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 814 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7329 times:

It comes out in Australia later this month, so I am planning on seeing it then.

User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7323 times:

Having seen the dreadful ‘Flight 93’ my expectations for ‘United 93’ were low but then somewhere I read (maybe on a.net) a review of the film written by a Delta pilot who was on flying duties on the day and received the warning about cockpit intrusions and subsequently the order for the immediate grounding of all aircraft in US airspace. The review was very favourable, heavily pointing out the accuracy of the sets, the crew’s actions, the action on the ground at ATC (my recollection is that the person who played the chief at ATC in the film was the real person who was on duty that day – his first day in the new position) and elsewhere, and the attention to detail. Partly due to this excellent review and my interest in civil aviation, the film was a “must see” and I saw it on the day of its release in the UK.

Whilst it will never be know for certainty what exactly happened on United 93 that day, the film was an engrossing, but disturbing, and probably an accurate account. It did not feature the usual Hollywood heroes who save the world from villains, but the average guy from the street who had found himself in an unique and dangerous situation and realised that his death would perhaps save many other people’s lives. At most stages the film was very sensitive and it appeared to me that the director was more concerned in telling the story accurately than making a film that would be a box office success.

There were few people in the cinema when I saw the film but it was obvious that they were all moved by the film. When the end credits came up, there was not the usual scramble to get out but everyone remained seated until the house lights came up. At that stage, someone clapped and immediately the whole audience joined in. Leaving the auditorium, strangers were talking to each other about the film and the impact that it had had on them.

I would not recommend the film as a blockbuster or adventure to play one evening for the family or friends. But if you wanted a film that is highly engrossing, albeit disturbing, or have any interest in civil aviation or the events of 9/11, I would urge you to see the film.

I cannot wait for it to be released on DVD. I believe it is due out in the US on 9 September (to coincide with the date) but in the UK the DVD release is not until late October.



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User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7313 times:

Yes I did go and see it!

I thought it was also pretty good, but also I found it quite disturbing. As people have mentioned, this is definitely not one for "the family" on a quiet night in.

I would probably buy it on DVD when it arrives in the UK.

Did anyone see the documentry made by those French guys, surrounding 9/11? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312318/

Cheers,
Justin  Smile


User currently offlineCell1721121 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7293 times:

I saw United 93 and thought it was very well made. The director didn't focus on just one person. I did notice one mistake were there should have been a 757 there was an A320. Besides that it was a really good movie.

User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7289 times:

Quoting Jkw777 (Reply 9):
Did anyone see the documentry made by those French guys, surrounding 9/11?

Yeah I saw it, it was on TV here in 2002. Very incredible!



It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.
User currently offlineDreamsUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7284 times:

Huh, interesting, I think maybe I'll think about renting it then, however I did like how the Discovery Channel's documentary was set up, even though it was quite graphic for a tribute, horrible CGI though...

-Josh



Do not abort a takeoff because a cockpit window pops open!
User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7247 times:
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Its on my list of best movies this year.
I was on the edge of my seat the whole way through the film and felt shivers down my spine, knowing it was all based on real events.

Quite a film

Kev.



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User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7232 times:

i agree with DreamsUnited on his first response, living through 9/11 the first time was bad enough, seeing the movie is going to bring back some bad memories for me... but to answer your question, yes I'm going to see it (haven't seen in yet obviously).

-Ryan



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User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7223 times:

I haven't seen it, but I just came from watching World Trade Centers. At the end of that movie there were people crying, teenagers of my age were crying. Then some bloke in the back had to laugh at something. oh well I found the World Trade Centers very moving and a movie that keeps you thinking about what really happened on that day.

Mr. Cage said at the end that the day would be remebered for the evil, but mainly for the love and courage that came from the men that worked to save the souls lost at the World Trade Center.

I will watch United 93, can't wait to see another show of bravery!

I bet two main things were running through the mens head on United 93, One: I can't let other people die when I can help it. Two: we have a beeter chance if we try to do some thing.
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.
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User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7142 times:

Yeah I just saw WTC the other night. After it was over there was silence. When we walked out we just walked and didnt speak. I got in the car and turned off the music and just sat there. It was very sad and very real. I will watch United 93 when it comes out on dvd.


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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7134 times:
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Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 2):
Factually (at least with everything to do with aviation), the movie was very accurate.

They even got a real pilot to act as one of the pilots aboard United 93. I have not seen the movie, but if I am not mistaken one of the pilots is an African-American. The person who plays him(I do not know his name) is a 747 pilot for UPS and is also certified on the 757. The director wanted his movie to be painfully accurate, so he went so far as to get an actual airline pilot for the role of an airline pilot. I believe he was a consultant on the movie due to his extensive
knowledge of how airliners fly.



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User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2556 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7134 times:

Quoting Jeffry747 (Reply 17):
They even got a real pilot to act as one of the pilots aboard United 93. I have not seen the movie, but if I am not mistaken one of the pilots is an African-American. The person who plays him(I do not know his name) is a 747 pilot for UPS and is also certified on the 757. The director wanted his movie to be painfully accurate, so he went so far as to get an actual airline pilot for the role of an airline pilot. I believe he was a consultant on the movie due to his extensive
knowledge of how airliners fly.

That is correct. The pilots were played by actual airline pilots and the FAs were actual or retired FAs. I recall that the actors who played the terrorists were also segregated from the others except when on set to increase the tension.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7130 times:

Just to double check....Flight 93 and United 93 are two different films? I saw Flight 93 and was amazed at the incredible bad acting, ruined it for me.


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User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7129 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 19):
Just to double check....Flight 93 and United 93 are two different films? I saw Flight 93 and was amazed at the incredible bad acting, ruined it for me.

One was a made for tv movie... the other was in theatres and will be on dvd soon.



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12269 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7086 times:
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United 93 was released in New Zealand last week. I was going to watch it the first day it came out but those plans got changed. I'm going to buy it on DVD when its released and I might see it in the movies. I'm keen on seeing also 'World Trade Centers'

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 7063 times:

Yes, I saw it a while back. Very moving picture and something you have to watch with a certain level of intensity and understanding, it's not a lighthearted or action packed hollywood film. I thought that it was emotionally gripping and had me affected the whole evening after as though it lingered in my mind. The thing I found most chilling was the fact the guys were just sat there being treated like normal passengers. I know this is obvious, but it's strange to actually see, as before you sort of seperate the two.

Quoting BCAL (Reply 8):
There were few people in the cinema when I saw the film but it was obvious that they were all moved by the film. When the end credits came up, there was not the usual scramble to get out but everyone remained seated until the house lights came up. At that stage, someone clapped and immediately the whole audience joined in. Leaving the auditorium, strangers were talking to each other about the film and the impact that it had had on them

As the film ended where I was everyone was silent, and that continued as people left. There were a few people crying too, it felt like we were mourning those who had died, very strange, like seeing a powerful piece of theatre it managed to grip you in such a realistic sense.

Sam



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User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 814 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 7058 times:

Saw the movie last wednesday.

Thought It was very well done, and really captured on what might of happened on Flight 93.

I like how they used Real pilots and F.A's rather than actors and how the people in the ATC centre played themselvs.

The movie was quite moving and there were some obvious aviation-related mistakes which were not that bad IE United A320 taking off and how they referred to some of the hijacked flights as 757's instead of 767's. (May of happened due to all the confusion)

Does anyone know what 757 was used when the Co-pilot did the walkaround in EWR?

Quoting A340600 (Reply 22):
As the film ended where I was everyone was silent, and that continued as people left

I noticed that too. People walked out very quietly at the end.


User currently offlineAmritpal From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

sorry to be little off topic, but Flight 93 was, in the start, shot at YVR. just thought of sharing this info.

[Edited 2006-09-02 17:50:00]


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25 777ER : I've just seen Flight93 at home and thought it was excellent. Why did they show an A320 as the aircraft at the gate?
26 Amritpal : just watched the United 93, actually its much much better movie than Flight 93. my heart beats speed up when the second plane hit the tower, to see ev
27 Dale : Just finished watching United 93 on DVD much better than Flight 93 ,Very sad to watch ,Could not believe the break down in the chain of command.
28 Skookum : I love the fact that the first several aircraft visible in "Flight 93" (or the crummy TV movie one) are an AC 'bus, a couple of CMA 1900s, and a WestJ
29 Post contains images BMIFlyer : I now have it on DVD, and yes I watched it. Very sad movie Lee
30 I530j : Just bought the DVD and yes I have seen it in theaters also very good movie 5 stars. Made me cry a bit to. Cheers, Justin
31 Post contains images Highflyer9790 : I saw the movie twice, and it is one of the best made movies ive ever seen. this is in no way "marketing off 9/11..." it was done repectively and dire
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