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Topic: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: CanadaEH
Posted 2003-11-18 04:15:10 and read 3827 times.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/November2003/17/c3039.html

59 Jetsgo fares from Toronto to anywhere in network

MONTREAL, Nov. 17 /CNW/ - Jetsgo is offering a one-way seat sale from
Toronto to anywhere in the Jetsgo network for only $59. The $59 sale applies
to flights leaving from Toronto during the travel period of Nov. 25, 2003, to
April 25, 2004.
"There are tens of thousands of seats available at this rate for travel
in the next five months," explains Jetsgo president, Michel Leblanc. "Any trip
from Toronto will be eligible for $59 fares, with no travel blackout periods."
Reservations for this sale can be made on Jetsgo's Web site at
www.jetsgo.net, from Nov. 18, to Nov. 22. Fares are subject to availability,
and regular taxes and surcharges apply. Full details are available at
www.jetsgo.net.
Headquartered in Montreal with 500 employees, Jetsgo currently offers
discount air service to 11 Canadian destinations: Vancouver, Edmonton,
Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Charlottetown, Halifax, Sydney,
and St. John's, Nfld. Service in the United States is to New York (Newark),
Las Vegas, and Fort Lauderdale, Orlando, St. Petersburg and Fort Myers in
Florida. For full schedule and booking information, log on to jetsgo.net,
phone the call centre at 1-866-440-0441 or contact a travel agent. All
registered jetsgo.net users are eligible for Jetsmiles, Jetsgo's frequent
flier program.


"There are tens of thousands of seats available at this rate for travel
in the next five months," explains Jetsgo president, Michel Leblanc.


How much money is this airline making with so many seat sales?!?

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Lymanm
Posted 2003-11-18 04:24:46 and read 3778 times.

They are making money from those who are willing to pay those $30,000 fares. Yknow, the seats with the best view? ...With a bunch of lights, dials and knobs everywhere.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Gmonney
Posted 2003-11-18 05:02:59 and read 3719 times.

FOFLMAO....good one Lymanm.....good one...but its so true! I am wondering how to get home....anyone interested in flying YYZ-YOW or YUL for a day and then renting a car and coming home?? What does this $59 actually cost....$150 ro $200....lets do it??

Grant

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 05:12:32 and read 3695 times.

They are making money from those who are willing to pay those $30,000 fares. Yknow, the seats with the best view? ...With a bunch of lights, dials and knobs everywhere.

LOL. Don't forget the bitter sky-hags who serve you your hot meal errrr pretzels. I'm tired of paying $30,000 every time I fly AC. Long live Jetsgo and their apparatuses.

anyone interested in flying YYZ-YOW or YUL for a day and then renting a car and coming home??

Grant....I'd be up for that.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Gmonney
Posted 2003-11-18 05:16:15 and read 3682 times.

Hey neil i think it would be really cool to go to Rockcliff as well, the pimp and Lymanm say the DC-9 is worth seeing....the only thing is its winter.... I will converge with others and we will jet this plan into action....whats a good day for everyone...weekday or weekend?? Post your day of choice? Or i guess email me?

Grant

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: B747-437B
Posted 2003-11-18 05:17:21 and read 3682 times.

anyone interested in flying YYZ-YOW or YUL for a day and then renting a car and coming home??

I'm already flying YYZ-YUL on SG on December 4th ($1 fare), so if you can time it for that day I'll be game. I actually don't mind flying SG out of YYZ T3 since my KLM Platinum status allows me to use the KL lounge - which beats AC's MLL in T2 hands down! I can even take a guest into the lounge for a few brews if anyone is interested.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 05:21:10 and read 3668 times.

Hey neil i think it would be really cool to go to Rockcliff as well, the pimp and Lymanm say the DC-9 is worth seeing....the only thing is its winter.... I will converge with others and we will jet this plan into action....whats a good day for everyone...weekday or weekend?? Post your day of choice? Or i guess email me?

Grant, I'm wide open. Any day is fine. YOW is cool. We can pick any day until end of April, we just have to book by Nov 22nd.

Neil.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Cessnapimp
Posted 2003-11-18 05:24:16 and read 3659 times.

... and then make the rental take the $59 fare back to Montreal!

I think you may have something here!

Don't forget the bitter sky-hags who serve you your hot meal errrr pretzels.

I wish you a "not properly affixed" JT8D-217/9 to fall in front of you as you are walking. So there...  Laugh out loud The problem is not the sky hags, the problem is the salary that makes them stay!

No matter how low you pay your staff, I still don't know how he makes money with $100 on average fares. The fuel and Airport fees alone.... can someone explain? Is he going to run dry eventually?

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 05:29:21 and read 3637 times.

I still don't know how he makes money with $100 on average fares. The fuel and Airport fees alone.... can someone explain? Is he going to run dry eventually?

I understand it. He is generating new business with these loss-leader fares. People remember the cheap fares and are happy to return to Jetsgo again and pay their regular fares a 2nd or 3rd time since the deal was so good the 1st time. His costs are also very low, arguably the lowest of any Cdn airline with his large-ish MD-80's and cheap lease rates.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: B747-437B
Posted 2003-11-18 05:30:14 and read 3637 times.

I still don't know how he makes money with $100 on average fares

He doesn't. I've got a highly reliable source that says Michel is bleeding a daily operational loss of almost C$200k. Hence the desperate cash grabs to keep the cash float going.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Captaingomes
Posted 2003-11-18 05:37:35 and read 3619 times.

So Sean, in your estimation, how long will this operation last? Is there any hope? If I were a commercial pilot right now, should I plop $30,000 to work for them? By the way, I'm not in that position at this time anyways.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 05:39:15 and read 3616 times.

I've got a highly reliable source that says Michel is bleeding a daily operational loss of almost C$200k.

Hmmm...that works out to C$6M a month, or about C$72M a year in losses. This seems excessive for such a small airline. I doubt Boeing Capital would lease them addl MD-80's with as poor financials as this.

I presume SG's annual revenue is about $200-300M based on their fleet size. A C$72M loss seems excessive.

I'm not saying I don't believe you Sean, but expanding it out as I did above, C$200k losses per day seems excessive to me.  Smile Maybe I'm missing something.

Neil.



[Edited 2003-11-18 05:40:08]

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: B747-437B
Posted 2003-11-18 05:57:38 and read 3580 times.

If I were a commercial pilot right now, should I plop $30,000 to work for them?

Two simple words - FUCK NO! Not only do you have to shell out $30k, but you are potentially blacklisting yourself for life from any union carrier who consider pay-for-play just one step down from child molestation.

Hmmm...that works out to C$6M a month, or about C$72M a year in losses.

Thats only if you assume the $200k bleed has been ongoing for an entire year. I think he was referring more to Sept/Oct when he gave me these numbers. Obviously summer numbers should have been healthier.

I doubt Boeing Capital would lease them addl MD-80's with as poor financials as this.

At this point in time, BCC would lease Saddam an MD-80 if he asked nicely and came up with enough cash for the deposit. Its hardly like its a booming lease market out there. Beggars cant be choosers.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 06:01:09 and read 3572 times.

I think he was referring more to Sept/Oct when he gave me these numbers. Obviously summer numbers should have been healthier.

Then he might have a wise strategy to fill the aircraft in the slow seasons. Sometimes current cash flow is a more immediate goal than annual profit. In a high turnover business, cash is king.

At this point in time, BCC would lease Saddam an MD-80 if he asked nicely and came up with enough cash for the deposit. Its hardly like its a booming lease market out there. Beggars cant be choosers.

Chuckle. I don't disagree.



Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: B747-437B
Posted 2003-11-18 06:06:48 and read 3566 times.

Then he might have a wise strategy to fill the aircraft in the slow seasons. Sometimes current cash flow is a more immediate goal than annual profit. In a high turnover business, cash is king.

I never said otherwise. Still doesn't change the fact that he's being parted from his money faster than a teenager in a stripclub. However, the double standard is glaringly obvious. If AC tried a sale like this, Clive Beddoe and Mike TheWhite would be crying foul faster than Robert Milton can name another subsidiary.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 06:10:13 and read 3559 times.

....would be crying foul faster than Robert Milton can name another subsidiary.

Now THAT is fast.

Well, we should Canadian apparatuses while we can then.


Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Gmonney
Posted 2003-11-18 07:21:45 and read 3523 times.

Back to the real issue at hand....i think that if how ever many seats are available, those people will be entitled to those jetsgo airmiles...smilemiles or something like that....that could be a drive to come back to the airline, give a little to get a little...

If i have a good experience on Jetsgo to SFB on Dec 24th....i am sure i will fly them again... mostly baised on principal...the only thing i have found wrong with AC has been the prices...

Saying that....as far as "OUR FLIGHT" Christmas time is out for this kid, may have to be in the new year? or before? Imagine the camera work onboard....Cessna pimp, Kaz, myself...we could go camera crazy!!

Grant


Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 07:30:40 and read 3514 times.

may have to be in the new year?

New year is fine. Preferable actually. December as usual is filling up.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Gmonney
Posted 2003-11-18 07:35:25 and read 3510 times.

Actually should i be pissed....i will have to check if there is room on the flights that i have already booked....hmmmm ya new year looks good....weekend ok for you Mr. Bridge (aka yyz717) he he he.... were you not down there helping with the bridge the other day...??

Grant

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Gmonney
Posted 2003-11-18 08:09:20 and read 3481 times.

If you book online its only $49 and $92 with all taxes....why not guys....??

Right now there is a lot available well i checked a monday in january...

Who's in?

Grant

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: AWspicious
Posted 2003-11-18 08:52:34 and read 3456 times.

"Still doesn't change the fact that he's being parted from his money faster than a teenager in a stripclub."

That teenager was me!
Anyway, I think I'll still have a few bucks left to spring for this lil venture... Providing we have a normal group of enthusiasts (emphasis on normal).
I got dibs on shot-gun for the drive back!

a.w.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Lymanm
Posted 2003-11-18 12:39:58 and read 3425 times.

Where you guys planning on going? Montreal or Ottawa? I may join you somewhere, depending on if I am in Toronto (parents' new city), Montreal (school city) or Ottawa (hometown but now houseless city).

Looks like they're not stupid enough to offer the sale the same time the Sunday free-for-all happens.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 12:51:32 and read 3418 times.

Who's in?

I'm in.

Where you guys planning on going? Montreal or Ottawa?

Grant suggested seeing the Aeroflot DC-9 at Rockcliffe....so I guess it's YOW.


Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Skywatcher
Posted 2003-11-18 16:21:20 and read 3355 times.

I drove by the Canadian aviation museum at Rockcliffe a couple of weeks ago.

It looked like it was closed and that major renovations were in progress.
Does anybody know what's going on?

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Cessnapimp
Posted 2003-11-18 17:28:33 and read 3311 times.

A new storage facility is being built to house the Canadair Argus, Vickers Viscount, DC-9, Dash-7 prototype, North Star, Lockheed Jetstar, the Canadian Forces C-47 and Bristol Beautighter. All stored outside.

It will be a visitable facility. Long needed as the Viscount, C-47 and Argus are advanced state of weathering.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Captaingomes
Posted 2003-11-18 18:00:39 and read 3290 times.

I would be interested in going, but depends on money and time. Truthfully, I think mid December would be better for me, but maybe late January could work too.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: AWspicious
Posted 2003-11-18 19:59:18 and read 3227 times.

C'mon, Captain. No excuses. Mind over matter. You can do whatever you set you mind to do. You hold the key to your own success. Geeze.... Didn't you learn anything from those Tony Robbins tapes I lent ya?!!
So, it seems Ottawa is the winning destination. (Aren't they lucky - heh!). Perhaps The Pimp can ask the parents to put some suds on ice for our arrival. Cuz, it's gonna be a hoooome commin! (heeee hawww!)  Big thumbs up

a.w.

(God... I've been trouble-shooting computer issues WAY too much, today. Like Shepp said - I'm starting to get cabin fever)  Nuts

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 20:21:41 and read 3205 times.

Grant, can you only do December? I could swing it perhaps.

Neil

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Cessnapimp
Posted 2003-11-18 20:48:13 and read 3185 times.

I like the idea of stealing from my parent's stash for you guys, but not the means of getting to YOW.

I'll take tango, thank you.

[Edited 2003-11-18 20:51:27]

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2003-11-18 20:54:31 and read 3173 times.

A new storage facility is being built to house the Canadair Argus, Vickers Viscount, DC-9, Dash-7 prototype, North Star, Lockheed Jetstar, the Canadian Forces C-47 and Bristol Beautighter. All stored outside.

Jeez....even when AC aircraft are out of service in a damn museum, they're still high maintenance. What an airline.

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: Cessnapimp
Posted 2003-11-18 21:01:25 and read 3155 times.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Greg

Topic: RE: Jetsgo To Offer $59 Fares From YYZ To Anywhere!
Username: AWspicious
Posted 2003-11-19 01:41:52 and read 3102 times.

"I like the idea of stealing from my parent's stash for you guys, but not the means of getting to YOW. I'll take tango, thank you."

Can't say I didn't see that one coming :-]

The deadline for ticket purchase is this Saturday? Well, we'd better sort this one out in a hurry. I suggest an e-mail amongst ourselves (phone calls work wonders, too) to settle the details.



A.W.


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